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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #6350 on: April 14, 2022, 06:45:19 PM »
And hope that there isn't someone else with access to a boat who isn't bothered about whether people survive the crossings? Whilst there are desperate people there are opportunities to exploit them, and there is never going to be an end to unscrupulous people willing to do the exploiting.

This is an issue that needs to be addressed at the source - we need to dry up the demand for immigration, not try to ration the supply. Rationing the supply with a high demand just makes the people more desperate and the suppliers richer.

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I'm not sure that sending foreign aid and ending weapons supplies is going to achieve that on its own, though it would help.
I think the problem is that geting a visa to live here is far too expensive. If people can afford these requirements, they clearly don't need to come as much as those who are coming from poor backgrounds. So I would float the idea of having a cap on visas but give a large proportion of them to those who otherwise turn to illegal and dangerous methods of entry. Give those who turn up and camp on the French coast priorty. There could be a waitng list and creature comfort facilities near Dover etc for while they are waiting.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #6351 on: April 22, 2022, 10:23:34 AM »

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« Reply #6352 on: May 31, 2022, 12:04:57 PM »
And yet more proof of how splendidly listening to the Liar in chief turns out:

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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #6354 on: July 02, 2022, 11:46:07 PM »
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“Withdrawing from the single market, just so that they can say: ‘We got Brexit done’ was the height of idiocy. But then they are idiots.”

Ryanair boss, O'Leary.
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« Reply #6355 on: July 03, 2022, 10:56:58 AM »
Ryanair boss, O'Leary.

Michael O'Leary says something I agree with. Better mark it in my diary.
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« Reply #6356 on: July 03, 2022, 11:10:46 AM »
Michael O'Leary says something I agree with. Better mark it in my diary.

Indeed. Brexit makes strange bedfellows for many of us.
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« Reply #6357 on: July 23, 2022, 08:31:55 AM »
Apparently, it's the fault of the French that the tougher borders we wanted are working.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #6358 on: July 25, 2022, 10:17:03 AM »
Another advantage of Brexit: our disabled badges are no longer guaranteed to be accepted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62287752
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« Reply #6359 on: July 25, 2022, 11:03:34 AM »
I quite like the idea of having my passport stamped, though I think I'd prefer no stamp and not having to wait. But I probably wouldn't go to France at the same time as everyone else!

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« Reply #6360 on: July 25, 2022, 01:44:41 PM »
Another advantage of Brexit: our disabled badges are no longer guaranteed to be accepted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62287752
   



There seems to be some issue with guide dogs being accepted without quarantine as well.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #6361 on: August 10, 2022, 04:53:34 PM »
Brexit is like the Easter Rising. Ffs!

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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #6362 on: August 10, 2022, 05:22:28 PM »
Brexit is like the Easter Rising. Ffs!

https://archive.ph/sAyAM

The relationship of Ireland and the UK was fundamentally very different to the UK's relationship with the EU. That should have been blindingly obvious.

Tom Harris is probably also not for Scottish independence.
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« Reply #6363 on: August 10, 2022, 06:16:23 PM »
Brexit has done the UK no good at all, I wish it could be reversed.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #6365 on: September 01, 2022, 10:46:20 AM »
Great last paragraph

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/aug/31/unboxed-project-festival-of-brexit-label-visitors-target

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Ministers had hoped that the festival would attract 66 million people,

Surely that is a typo. 66 million people is practically everyone in the UK. I, for one, had never even heard of it until I followed your link.
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« Reply #6366 on: September 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM »
I read the headline and thought 'eh!'. But the argument has some power.


https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/13/black-wednesday-brexit-sterling-crisis

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« Reply #6367 on: September 15, 2022, 02:33:01 PM »
I read the headline and thought 'eh!'. But the argument has some power.


https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/13/black-wednesday-brexit-sterling-crisis

The timetable might have been longer but the Euro would still have happened.
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« Reply #6368 on: September 18, 2022, 06:19:16 PM »
Would be funny if it wasn't serious - for me this story illustrates just how useless the Tories really are: if you are going to stack the deck in your favour it's probably best to do it in a way that isn't obvious.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/18/metric-system-imperial-measures-consultation-brexit

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« Reply #6369 on: September 28, 2022, 07:32:53 PM »
No doubt there are some who still claim the knew what they were voting for when the voted for Brexit - if so, I hopethey like queues.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/28/eu-biometric-entry-system-could-multiply-delays-at-dover

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« Reply #6370 on: October 16, 2022, 12:34:34 PM »
I wasn't sure whether to post this here or on the Next PM thread. It works in either place.

tl;dr even the Daily Telegraph has realised that Project Fear was right.

Hopefully it is not paywalled. It wasn't for me.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/10/15/project-fear-right-along/

Just in case it is, here is a flavour:

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Downbeat predictions by the Treasury and others on the economic consequences of leaving the EU, contemptuously dismissed at the time by Brexit campaigners as "Project Fear", have been on a long fuse, but they have turned out to be overwhelmingly correct, and if anything have underestimated both the calamitous loss of international standing and the scale of the damage that six years of policy confusion and ineptitude has imposed on the country.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #6371 on: November 23, 2022, 09:42:30 AM »
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« Reply #6373 on: December 20, 2022, 08:17:54 AM »
Isn't it gratifying to see that the £350 million that is saved  each week as a result of leaving the EU is being spent so effectively on the National Health Service.
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