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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #250 on: November 12, 2016, 07:35:38 PM »

I'm not trying to prove a negative, I'm trying to get you to prove (by which I mean show evidence for) a positive claim, namely hat the EU is fascist.
It was a general comment.

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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #251 on: November 12, 2016, 07:40:56 PM »
What is the govt trying to achieve here? Do they know?


https://www.timeshighereducation.com/blog/i-feel-truly-ashamed-keith-burnett-theresa-mays-trade-mission-india
Basically it is about show and making friends etc., and where they want to take Britain i.e. future trade deals and so on. Only minor stuff will actually come from this visit.

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« Reply #252 on: November 12, 2016, 07:44:03 PM »
Basically it is about show and making friends etc., and where they want to take Britain i.e. future trade deals and so on. Only minor stuff will actually come from this visit.
and it would appear that they missed the 'making friends' part wring and puffed up(lied) about the scale of achievement

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« Reply #253 on: November 12, 2016, 07:52:56 PM »
and it would appear that they missed the 'making friends' part wring and puffed up(lied) about the scale of achievement
That's politics for you. All puffed up with whisking spin.

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« Reply #254 on: November 12, 2016, 07:56:02 PM »
That's politics for you. All puffed up with whisking spin.
just a pity that they failed on the making friends part

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« Reply #255 on: November 12, 2016, 08:00:27 PM »
Nice wee comment "Orange is the new black" From "The Wee Ginger Dug", courtesy of "The National" newspaper. http://www.thenational.scot/comment/wee-ginger-dug-its-a-grave-new-world-for-the-us-and-for-us.24682
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #256 on: November 12, 2016, 08:28:55 PM »
just a pity that they failed on the making friends part
I get the feeling that May thinks she has the clout and presence of Thatcher. This will be her undoing as she reaches for the sun like Icarus.

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« Reply #257 on: November 12, 2016, 08:37:22 PM »
I get the feeling that May thinks she has the clout and presence of Thatcher. This will be her undoing as she reaches for the sun like Icarus.
Thatcher the neo con you mean?

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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #258 on: November 12, 2016, 08:44:28 PM »
Thatcher the neo con you mean?
She followed Reagan, so yeah. But possibly neo-neo-con.

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« Reply #259 on: November 12, 2016, 08:47:19 PM »
She followed Reagan, so yeah. But possibly neo-neo-con.
can you print a little chart of these neo and neo neo cons, and neo libs and possibly neo old neo libs and people's front of neo old con libs?

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« Reply #260 on: November 12, 2016, 08:49:11 PM »
can you print a little chart of these neo and neo neo cons, and neo libs and possibly neo old neo libs and people's front of neo old con libs?
The chart gets too complicated, one has to take it on faith that it all makes sense.

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« Reply #261 on: November 13, 2016, 11:34:41 AM »
I don't know  but I would like to see where he gets the 14 billion a year figure from.

I presume he means all international students not just from India. Since he is the vice chancellor of a major university I assume that his figure is likely to be accurate - after all, THES is not the kind of publication which would allow him to get away with a largely incorrect figure.
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« Reply #262 on: November 13, 2016, 11:58:50 AM »
I don't know  but I would like to see where he gets the 14 billion a year figure from.

It's believable. There are about 440 thousand foreign students in the UK. Fourteen billion means they each contribute around £30k. That would include their fees, stuff they buy, stuff the people who are paid through their fees buy and so on.
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« Reply #263 on: November 13, 2016, 12:01:54 PM »
She followed Reagan, so yeah. But possibly neo-neo-con.
No she didn't. She gained power in 1979, Reagan gained power in 1981.
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« Reply #264 on: November 13, 2016, 12:40:04 PM »
I don't know  but I would like to see where he gets the 14 billion a year figure from.


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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #265 on: November 13, 2016, 04:05:12 PM »
I presume he means all international students not just from India. Since he is the vice chancellor of a major university I assume that his figure is likely to be accurate - after all, THES is not the kind of publication which would allow him to get away with a largely incorrect figure.
That makes sense then if its not just Indian students. My bad!
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #266 on: November 15, 2016, 09:11:46 AM »
I so hope this isn't true. The last thing we need is this to be screwed up.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37983948

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« Reply #267 on: November 15, 2016, 07:20:35 PM »
No she didn't. She gained power in 1979, Reagan gained power in 1981.
That's besides the point. The academic idea of neo-liberalism had been around for some years before either were elected into power.

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« Reply #268 on: November 15, 2016, 11:59:23 PM »
That's besides the point. The academic idea of neo-liberalism had been around for some years before either were elected into power.
No it isn't. The point was that you said Thatcher followed Reagan when it isn't true.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #269 on: November 16, 2016, 12:04:32 AM »
I so hope this isn't true. The last thing we need is this to be screwed up.


Which bit? It's a racing certainty that there are differences between cabinet members on how best to handle Brexit. That doesn't mean they won't settle on a course and it doesn't mean they will screw it up.

Actually, it will be screwed up, at least in part, it's far too complex a problem to get it completely right.

It's interesting that nobody mentioned how much it was going to cost to leave the EU in purely bureaucratic terms. Maybe they can take it out of the £350 million /sarcasm.
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« Reply #270 on: November 16, 2016, 05:25:24 PM »
No it isn't. The point was that you said Thatcher followed Reagan when it isn't true.
Yes it is!!!

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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #271 on: November 16, 2016, 05:30:31 PM »
Which bit? It's a racing certainty that there are differences between cabinet members on how best to handle Brexit. That doesn't mean they won't settle on a course and it doesn't mean they will screw it up.

Actually, it will be screwed up, at least in part, it's far too complex a problem to get it completely right.

It's interesting that nobody mentioned how much it was going to cost to leave the EU in purely bureaucratic terms. Maybe they can take it out of the £350 million /sarcasm.
The bureaucratic costs are in the short term, the £350 million/week is for life!!! So screw that up your mile high, non-reality, arse.

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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #272 on: November 16, 2016, 05:35:02 PM »
the £350 million/week is for life!!!
the £350 million/week is a lie!!!

There you go - fixed it for you.

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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #273 on: November 16, 2016, 06:07:39 PM »
the £350 million/week is a lie!!!

There you go - fixed it for you.
Doesn't matter what the actual sum is IT  IS  FOR  LIFE!!!!!!!

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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #274 on: November 16, 2016, 06:17:02 PM »
Doesn't matter what the actual sum is IT  IS  FOR  LIFE!!!!!!!
£2.79 per week FOR LIFE.
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