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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #275 on: November 16, 2016, 06:49:48 PM »
Quote from: Sebastian Toe on November 16, 2016, 06:17:02 PM
£2.79 per week FOR LIFE.
How sad you had to type that out!!! Did it make you feel better?
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #276 on: November 16, 2016, 07:23:27 PM »
Quote from: Jack Knave on November 16, 2016, 06:49:48 PM
How sad you had to type that out!!! Did it make you feel better?
Enormously. The sad fact that you had to respond to it- did that make you feel better?
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #277 on: November 16, 2016, 07:25:49 PM »
Quote from: Jack Knave on November 16, 2016, 05:30:31 PM
The bureaucratic costs are in the short term, the £350 million/week is for life!!! So screw that up your mile high, non-reality, arse.
The £350 million per week was lie.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #278 on: November 16, 2016, 07:47:29 PM »
Quote from: Sebastian Toe on November 16, 2016, 07:23:27 PM
Enormously. The sad fact that you had to respond to it- did that make you feel better?
How sad you had to type that out!!! Did it make you feel better?
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #279 on: November 16, 2016, 07:50:30 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on November 16, 2016, 07:25:49 PM
The £350 million per week was lie.
That comment has already been made. Do keep up!!! I know you live in your own little world but you must try to engage in the real world.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #280 on: November 16, 2016, 09:08:01 PM »
Quote from: Jack Knave on November 16, 2016, 07:47:29 PM
How sad you had to type that out!!! Did it make you feel better?
Do you feel any better for typing that?
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #281 on: November 17, 2016, 04:11:28 PM »
Quote from: Sebastian Toe on November 16, 2016, 09:08:01 PM
Do you feel any better for typing that?
Blah, blah, blah get a life.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #282 on: November 17, 2016, 05:41:53 PM »
Quote from: Jack Knave on November 17, 2016, 04:11:28 PM
Blah, blah, blah get a life.
How sad you had type that out. Did it make you feel better?
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #283 on: November 17, 2016, 06:13:34 PM »
Quote from: Jack Knave on November 16, 2016, 07:50:30 PM
That comment has already been made.
But you still haven't conceded its truth even though your beloved Nigel admitted it the next day.

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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #284 on: November 17, 2016, 09:42:15 PM »
Negotiations are going well. We seem to have accidentally put an albino baboon in charge of foreign policy.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #285 on: November 17, 2016, 11:16:43 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on November 17, 2016, 09:42:15 PM
Negotiations are going well. We seem to have accidentally put an albino baboon in charge of foreign policy.
Have you got autocorrect on? Does your version change "buffoon" like my one does?
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #286 on: November 17, 2016, 11:54:06 PM »
Quote from: Sebastian Toe on November 17, 2016, 11:16:43 PM
Have you got autocorrect on? Does your version change "buffoon" like my one does?
No, baboon was intentional.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #287 on: November 18, 2016, 03:05:26 AM »
Quote from: jeremyp on November 17, 2016, 11:54:06 PM
No, baboon was intentional.
Oh, mine changes it to 'Boris Johnson '.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #288 on: November 23, 2016, 04:16:19 PM »


http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/23/news/economy/uk-autumn-statement-budget-brexit/index.html

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The Brexit black hole is starting to take shape.

The U.K. will be forced to borrow an extra £58.7 billion ($72.6 billion) over the next five years because of an economic slowdown triggered by its vote to leave the European Union, according to the Office of Budget Responsibility.

The independent government agency said that growth will slump to just 1.4% next year, down from 2.2% predicted in March. That would be the weakest growth since 2009, according to IMF data.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #289 on: November 24, 2016, 07:36:16 PM »
Quote from: Sriram on November 23, 2016, 04:16:19 PM

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/23/news/economy/uk-autumn-statement-budget-brexit/index.html

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The Brexit black hole is starting to take shape.

The U.K. will be forced to borrow an extra £58.7 billion ($72.6 billion) over the next five years because of an economic slowdown triggered by its vote to leave the European Union, according to the Office of Budget Responsibility.

The independent government agency said that growth will slump to just 1.4% next year, down from 2.2% predicted in March. That would be the weakest growth since 2009, according to IMF data.
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Yes, it's looking pretty grim, but the Brexiters will never admit that they screwed us over.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #290 on: December 01, 2016, 01:05:06 AM »
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #291 on: December 01, 2016, 03:23:53 PM »
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #292 on: December 01, 2016, 03:28:38 PM »
So we are going to pay to have access to something in the future that we pay to have access to now.

And down the rabbit hole we go.
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« Reply #293 on: December 01, 2016, 03:32:05 PM »
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #294 on: December 01, 2016, 03:43:19 PM »
Quote from: Trentvoyager on December 01, 2016, 03:28:38 PM
So we are going to pay to have access to something in the future that we pay to have access to now.

And down the rabbit hole we go.
Who knows? Perhaps it will be Schrödinger's Brexit.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #295 on: December 01, 2016, 04:03:56 PM »
Presumably, it means that the government has focused on no foreigners as the bottom line for their Brexit deal.   They might accept the single market, and presumably they are being pressured to do this by business and the City, but definitely no nasty Poles and French people.   Well, I don't know, but neither does anybody else.

Also, there may be exemptions for some areas such as agriculture, so that E. Europeans can still be employed for those nasty 6am shifts. 
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #296 on: December 01, 2016, 04:40:24 PM »
More information from a journalist friend: you can be in the single market, but leave the customs union, and therefore do trade deals with anybody.   Also, you are out of CAP and Fisheries.   I think there is a problem with the court (ECJ), but this seems confused.   Any advance on this?   Rather similar to Flexcit (Richard North), that is, a gradual Brexit, which is flexible. 
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #297 on: December 02, 2016, 05:06:16 PM »
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #298 on: December 02, 2016, 05:11:55 PM »
Quote from: wigginhall on December 01, 2016, 04:03:56 PM
Presumably, it means that the government has focused on no foreigners as the bottom line for their Brexit deal.
I doubt that very much. Remember the government are tories and the tories are in thrall to business and the markets. And those people willing be telling them that loss of the ability to recruit in a flexible labour market, effectively to access low skilled workers when brits won't do the job, and high skilled workers where there is a shortage of brits with appropriate skills is essential.

We tend to forget the half of immigration is from non EU countries, often half way around the world. That migration has been completely under the control of the UK government for ever - yet they haven't clamped down on nurses from the Philipeans or Nigerian doctors or cleaners from Ghana. Why, because the labour force market requires them. And so it will continue after brexit, no doubt with some sop to try to make it look like they are tougher.
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« Reply #299 on: December 02, 2016, 05:32:01 PM »
Well, I agree really.  My original post did mention exemptions and so on.   It will be a nominal control of immigration, because in fact, nobody does control it, since labour shortages can develop very quickly.   Also, probably without immigration, the economy would sink. 
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