Brexit - the next steps

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I'm been so worried that Kinock an his Mrs might not get their pensions from the E U any more once we leave, can anyone put my mind to rest over this one.

ippy

What? You mean Mr Banks and Mr Redwood aren't compensating those who lose out from Brexit?

[ippy]

What? You mean Mr Banks and Mr Redwood aren't compensating those who lose out from Brexit?

No I mean, I've been so worried that Kinock an his Mrs might not get their pensions from the E U any more once we leave, can anyone put my mind to rest over this one.

I thought I had made that plain enough, but there?

ippy

[Rhiannon]

http://newsthump.com/2017/12/05/brexiters-whove-spent-18-months-saying-you-lost-get-over-it-still-waiting-to-discover-what-theyve-won/

[Aruntraveller]

No I mean, I've been so worried that Kinock an his Mrs might not get their pensions from the E U any more once we leave, can anyone put my mind to rest over this one.

I thought I had made that plain enough, but there?

ippy

Well the fucker Farage is making sure he's getting his - so you really haven't got a point.

[jakswan]

Sounds like a deal is on the cards, surely May just had to say 'if not me then Corbyn'.

[Spud]

I'm now hearing rumours that deal is back on, on the basis that all of the UK will retain the same regulatory status as NI, and therefore as the EU. Effectively customs union/single market for the whole UK.

Probably a silly question but could the UK retain the same regulatory status as Ireland but still leave the single market and customs union, thus not having to allow free movement? A bit like writing EU law into UK law without being in the EU?

[Nearly Sane]

Sounds like a deal is on the cards, surely May just had to say 'if not me then Corbyn'.

Wasn't tayt what she thought prior to calling the unnecessary election that led to her losing a majority and in coalition with the DUP which then led to the farce of having an agreed deal scrapped?

[Nearly Sane]

Probably a silly question but could the UK retain the same regulatory status as Ireland but still leave the single market and customs union, thus not having to allow free movement? A bit like writing EU law into UK law without being in the EU?

That's effectively the being in the single market. It won't be accepted by many in the Tory party as it means you do what the EU says with no input. That said many on the Leave campaign, such as Farage, Banks and Hannan, did say we wouldn't leave the single market but would be in the EEA and function like Norway. 

[Harrowby Hall]

And, if i recall correctly, Norway told Britain that Britain was better off remaining in the EU than being excluded from effective decision making, as Norway was.

[jakswan]

That's effectively the being in the single market. It won't be accepted by many in the Tory party as it means you do what the EU says with no input. That said many on the Leave campaign, such as Farage, Banks and Hannan, did say we wouldn't leave the single market but would be in the EEA and function like Norway.

Two assertions with no evidence please provide.

[Nearly Sane]

Two assertions with no evidence please provide.

  If you enact all EU regulation into law but aren't in the EU, then it folows you have no say. 

As to Farage etc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGt3QmRSZY

[jakswan]

  If you enact all EU regulation into law but aren't in the EU, then it folows you have no say. 

I was referring to 'That's effectively the being in the single market'

As to Farage etc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGt3QmRSZY

How low will you go? That is a propaganda piece, honestly I sometimes think leavers are sabotaging themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHzmCHcM7cA&t=550s

Some of that material in your linked video is quote mined, sad to see.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I was referring to 'That's effectively the being in the single market'

How low will you go? That is a propaganda piece, honestly I sometimes think leavers are sabotaging themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHzmCHcM7cA&t=550s

Some of that material in your linked video is quote mined, sad to see.

What are the procedures for compensating people for loss due to Brexit, Jack?
Restoration of the Manpower Services Commission, Increased benefits, mortgage and rent payments?

[Anchorman]

Heard an interview  on BBC radio Scotland's "Good morning, Scotland" this morning, with the interim leader of Sinn Feinn in Northern Ireland.
She was adamant that anything which distanced Northern Ireland from the present customs, cross -border co-operation, ease of access, transfer of goods, etc, would endanger the Good Friday agreement and the peace process, and might mean her party would have to reconsider its' position.
I have no support for May, and believe she's in a mess of her own making - but I feel sorry for her.
Interesting times.

[jakswan]

Heard an interview  on BBC radio Scotland's "Good morning, Scotland" this morning, with the interim leader of Sinn Feinn in Northern Ireland.
She was adamant that anything which distanced Northern Ireland from the present customs, cross -border co-operation, ease of access, transfer of goods, etc, would endanger the Good Friday agreement and the peace process, and might mean her party would have to reconsider its' position.
I have no support for May, and believe she's in a mess of her own making - but I feel sorry for her.
Interesting times.

Things are on a knife edge for you. If we move to 2nd stage in a few years Scotland will be out of EU with its path to independence very limited.

[Anchorman]

Things are on a knife edge for you. If we move to 2nd stage in a few years Scotland will be out of EU with its path to independence very limited.

What's that got to do do with Sinn Fein's stance?

[jakswan]

You are both against one union but for another, something I don't really understand.

[Anchorman]

[quote author=Anchorman link=topic=12832.msg708733#msg708733 date=1512554314
What's that got to do do with Sinn Fein's stance?



You are both against one union but for another, something I don't really understand.

 


Again, this has nothing to do with the interim leaser of Sinn Fein's pronouncement this morning.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Davis admits there are no economic impact statements.

[jeremyp]

Impact analysis, what impact analysis?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42249854

I am now officially extremely concerned for the future of my country.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Impact analysis, what impact analysis?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42249854

I am now officially extremely concerned for the future of my country.

I think it's almost conclusive evidence that Brexit was an acknowledged disaster from the get go.

The plan was therefore national widescale poverty in order to reintroduce a form of Bastard feudalism on the population.

[Spud]

  If you enact all EU regulation into law but aren't in the EU, then it folows you have no say. 

No say on EU regulation, agreed, but how much say on immigration? Lots.

[Spud]

I think it's almost conclusive evidence that Brexit was an acknowledged disaster from the get go.

The plan was therefore national widescale poverty in order to reintroduce a form of Bastard feudalism on the population.

I'm genuinely curious - if you had been forced out of your job by a band of Eastern Europeans would you still have voted Remain?

[Rhiannon]

I'm genuinely curious - if you had been forced out of your job by a band of Eastern Europeans would you still have voted Remain?

Who do you know who this happened to? Did it happen to you?

[Anchorman]

I'm genuinely curious - if you had been forced out of your job by a band of Eastern Europeans would you still have voted Remain?

Scotland welcomes immigrants, and demands control o immigration.
We're not xenophobes.