Brexit - the next steps

[Nearly Sane]

Totally agree. May will suggest a custom arrangement exactly like Corbyns union and people will accept it as a good idea.
The rebels will vote against Soubry and it will be Corbyn who will be in the Keech.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43204460

[Nearly Sane]

Except it isn't, is it. Boris?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43210156

[Walt Zingmatilder]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43204460

LBC commentators now waxing lyrical about their love of crisps!!! You couldn't make it up.

[Nearly Sane]

LBC commentators now waxing lyrical about their love of crisps!!! You couldn't make it up.

Do they go with the jam that we will make?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Do they go with the jam that we will make?

Oh that and smock wearing. In Brexit Britain the one with the worst broadband deal will be village idiot. It's all for the tourists and the deal we will strike with them to chuck apple cores at us.

[jeremyp]

As far as I know some that you would describe as being hard would favour a customs arrangement, which is a customs union. In fact its the Govts position to have a customs arrangement so Labour and Tories are almost on the same page, calling it Customs Union or arrangement is spin.

It's not the same at all. In a customs union there is effectively no border in respect of the movement of goods. A customs arrangement might be a union  or it might be some lesser deal.

[Gordon]

Boris blunders again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43215286

[Aruntraveller]

Mrs May doing what she does best, shifting the blame.

Headline in The Times:

Don't break up Britain, May warns the EU.



Yes because yet again the UK government has no responsibility whatsoever for the mucking fuddle we find ourselves in.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Is the May/Johnson relationship running the country at the moment a follie a deux?

[ProfessorDavey]

Mrs May doing what she does best, shifting the blame.

Headline in The Times:

Don't break up Britain, May warns the EU.



Yes because yet again the UK government has no responsibility whatsoever for the mucking fuddle we find ourselves in.

Quite astonishing. The UK has decided to leave the EU, therefore it is the UK's responsibility to ensure that this is done without breaking up the UK. Given that the EU wanted us to remain part of the EU, I cannot see how the EU bears any responsibility if the UK break up due to leaving the EU.

Bottom line - stop shirking your responsibilities.

[Anchorman]

Mrs May doing what she does best, shifting the blame.

Headline in The Times:

Don't break up Britain, May warns the EU.

           
   
Yes because yet again the UK government has no responsibility whatsoever for the mucking fuddle we find ourselves in.

     





Yep. This is a crate of cans of worms the Tory shambles are trying to ignore.
Even if by some miracle as yet unforseen they, and their DUP partners in bribery manage to cobble a solution, just wait till Holyrrod wades in and rejects it!

[Nearly Sane]

I love it and am sad about it

http://www.thenational.scot/news/16058987.Patrick_Harvie_urged_to_be_respectful_after_branding_two_Tory_MPs__expensively_educated_idiots_/

[Anchorman]

I love it and am sad about it

http://www.thenational.scot/news/16058987.Patrick_Harvie_urged_to_be_respectful_after_branding_two_Tory_MPs__expensively_educated_idiots_/

   



He wan't wrong.

[Nearly Sane]

I would suggest it never was


https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/boris-johnson-is-a-joke-that-isn-t-funny-anymore-1.3408977

[Walt Zingmatilder]

May sweeps things under the carpet again.

[jeremyp]

I would suggest it never was

I would suggest that it was until he gained high political office.

[Nearly Sane]

I would suggest that it was until he gained high political office.

Nah, the basic joke is about mistreating people.

[Nearly Sane]

May sweeps things under the carpet again.

Rather she has created a vacuum of rhetoric

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43250035

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Conservatives committed to probable unemployment. Labour committed to its avoidance.Speaking to a brexiter who says there's always been times of unemployment and the coming one will be blamed on Brexit.
I told him that's like pushing people into traffic and then claiming people get run over all the time.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

60% of councils say their regions will be adversely affected by Brexit....

Still waiting for good news from the Brexit side So far only play up play up and play the game from Johnson.

[jeremyp]

I think it's fairly obvious that the government as currently constituted will be unable to agree an acceptable deal that the EU will agree to. We're headed for the no deal option and nothing can stop it short of the the Tories being deposed from power and Labour growing some balls.

 

[jakswan]

It's not the same at all. In a customs union there is effectively no border in respect of the movement of goods. A customs arrangement might be a union  or it might be some lesser deal.

It sounds like you are saying 'its not the same, it might be the same'.

Does anyone know the Labour position, we are leaving the customs union to join a new one between EU and UK?

Meaning we can't negotiate any new trade deals.

[Rhiannon]

I think it's fairly obvious that the government as currently constituted will be unable to agree an acceptable deal that the EU will agree to. We're headed for the no deal option and nothing can stop it short of the the Tories being deposed from power and Labour growing some balls.

There’s going to have to be another vote, either a GE or a vote on the deal that forces the govt’s hand.

[ProfessorDavey]

Meaning we can't negotiate any new trade deals.

But we wouldn't need to with large parts of the world as the EU already has those deals in place which we would benefit from.

And we would be able to negotiate new deals alongside the EU, who due to their economic power will always be able to strike better deals than the UK could alone.

[jakswan]

There’s going to have to be another vote, either a GE or a vote on the deal that forces the govt’s hand.

Walk me through that how is it going to come about?

You know how certain Davey is about how Brexit will be bad news, everyone to the right of Nick Clegg thinks that Corbyn will be a disaster to such a scale that will make Brexit bad news irrelevant.