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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #1850 on: July 11, 2018, 04:07:54 PM »
Kuenssberg reporting that the Ultras are starting to table amendments to block govt legislation.   Sounds like war.  (Twitter).
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« Reply #1851 on: July 12, 2018, 01:40:06 PM »
Commons was suspended because the white paper hasn't been distributed to MPs. Then restarted even though no one has time to read it, though it has been given to journalists before MPs in breach of protocol. Farcical.

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« Reply #1852 on: July 12, 2018, 04:06:29 PM »
Just been reading about the advice to stockpile tinned food. No more European veg, its tinned carrots instead. Thanks a bunch.

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« Reply #1853 on: July 12, 2018, 04:10:12 PM »
Just been reading about the advice to stockpile tinned food. No more European veg, its tinned carrots instead. Thanks a bunch.
Or rather, tinned  :D
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« Reply #1854 on: July 12, 2018, 06:00:32 PM »
What about tinned Gammon?

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« Reply #1855 on: July 12, 2018, 06:06:19 PM »
Are posters implying that Increasingly Atheist Britain is going to turn into some kind of shitpot?

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« Reply #1856 on: July 12, 2018, 06:08:09 PM »
Are posters implying that Increasingly Atheist Britain is going to turn into some kind of shitpot?
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« Reply #1857 on: July 12, 2018, 06:09:29 PM »
Just been reading about the advice to stockpile tinned food. No more European veg, its tinned carrots instead. Thanks a bunch.

They are apparently quite easy to grow not that I have ever tried. We'll all be having kitchen gardens in the future. I quite like that idea as long as I'm retired by then but the novelty might wear off.

What about tinned Gammon?

Never even heard of that :o. There's no shortage of British pig meat though so I don't see the need (for meat eaters).
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« Reply #1858 on: July 12, 2018, 06:35:47 PM »
They are apparently quite easy to grow not that I have ever tried. We'll all be having kitchen gardens in the future. I quite like that idea as long as I'm retired by then but the novelty might wear off.



'We'll all'?... Where the hell do you think these 'kitchen gardens' will be given that most families can barely afford to buy a flat, that renting won't allow them that option, and that new builds have gardens like pocket handkerchiefs?

That's without considering the time that is needed, or the skill (I've tried growing veg and not done hugely well). The only option then is to pay someone to do it for you.

So, an option for the affluent retired, but families will no longer be able to give their kids fresh produce.

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« Reply #1859 on: July 12, 2018, 06:43:38 PM »
They are apparently quite easy to grow not that I have ever tried. We'll all be having kitchen gardens in the future. I quite like that idea as long as I'm retired by then but the novelty might wear off.

Never even heard of that :o. There's no shortage of British pig meat though so I don't see the need (for meat eaters).

Vlad is referring to this usage

http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=15619.msg732881#msg732881

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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #1860 on: July 12, 2018, 07:09:20 PM »
Lead by a vicars daughter, and Mogg is a fervent Catholic.
That's two....

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« Reply #1861 on: July 12, 2018, 07:13:00 PM »
That's two....

Do stop being a pillock over this. Religion nor secularism played little part in the referendum, whereas racism....
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« Reply #1862 on: July 12, 2018, 07:26:05 PM »
Do stop being a pillock over this.
what

Farage
Mogg
Hannan
Johnson
Davis
Hoey
Redwood
Fox
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab
Gove
17 Million Gammons

And I'm being a pillock over this?

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« Reply #1863 on: July 12, 2018, 07:31:55 PM »
Do stop being a pillock over this. Religion nor secularism played little part in the referendum, whereas racism....
It was Nearly Sane who played the religion card.
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« Reply #1864 on: July 12, 2018, 07:41:38 PM »
It was Nearly Sane who played the religion card.

In response to #1855 from what I can see.

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« Reply #1865 on: July 12, 2018, 07:59:44 PM »
In response to #1855 from what I can see.
Shit is not supposed to happen in the atheist population otherwise what is the cause of celebration for the increasingly atheist population?

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« Reply #1866 on: July 12, 2018, 08:01:32 PM »
Shit is not supposed to happen in the atheist population otherwise what is the cause of celebration for the increasingly atheist population?

There's much to celebrate if it means fewer people spouting the poisonous and dangerous crap that you come out with about people being 'dark' and 'evil' simply for not holding the same beliefs that you do and challenging you on them.

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« Reply #1867 on: July 12, 2018, 08:59:07 PM »
'We'll all'?... Where the hell do you think these 'kitchen gardens' will be given that most families can barely afford to buy a flat, that renting won't allow them that option, and that new builds have gardens like pocket handkerchiefs?

That's without considering the time that is needed, or the skill (I've tried growing veg and not done hugely well). The only option then is to pay someone to do it for you.

So, an option for the affluent retired, but families will no longer be able to give their kids fresh produce.

Alright! Point taken, I didn't think it out that far, should have said "Some of us will have kitchen gardens in the future". I did say I'd never tried it but I know lots of people who've grown runner beans, tomatoes, onions, carrots and other stuff - e.g. potatoes and asparagus - in a small garden. As well as fruit. Yes, I agree impossible for people in flats with no outside space and you're probably right that it takes a lot of skill and dedication, I wouldn't know. Maybe I'll find out in the future.

It's also possible to buy fruit and veg grown here which will mean only when in season, I do when I can. Great big gooseberries and rhubarb spring to mind, better than from supermarkets. On the edge of London there are plenty of farms and small shops stock their produce as well as farmer's markets.

It may not come to that though, let's hope. I haven't yet given up hope of Brexit not happening.

I fail to see what any of this (Brexit) has to do with religion or lack of. Agree with Trent.
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« Reply #1868 on: July 12, 2018, 10:01:26 PM »
There's much to celebrate if it means fewer people spouting the poisonous and dangerous crap that you come out with about people being 'dark' and 'evil' simply for not holding the same beliefs that you do and challenging you on them.
Crap!

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« Reply #1869 on: July 12, 2018, 10:30:58 PM »
Crap!

Yes, well done. You talk crap. We're getting somewhere.

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« Reply #1870 on: July 13, 2018, 12:08:56 AM »
what

Farage
Mogg
Hannan
Johnson
Davis
Hoey
Redwood
Fox
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab
Gove
17 Million Gammons

And I'm being a pillock over this?

Just listing objectionable people doesn't really advance your argument very far.

Although quite what a particularly unappetizing version of pork has to do with anything I'm sure I don't know.

You constantly try to make a link between secularism / atheism / antitheism as a reason for all things bad happening in the world - one of those things being BREXIT in your opinion. I am saying there is no that is; zero, zilch, proof; that this is the case.

There is evidence for other things causing people to vote in a certain way. Religion, or lack thereof, or any of the above listed are not amongst those reasons.

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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #1871 on: July 13, 2018, 04:39:11 AM »
It was Nearly Sane who played the religion card.
Nope, Vlad raised it with his 'increasingly Atheist' post.

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« Reply #1872 on: July 13, 2018, 08:25:32 AM »
There's much to celebrate if it means fewer people spouting the poisonous and dangerous crap that you come out with about people being 'dark' and 'evil' simply for not holding the same beliefs that you do and challenging you on them.
Lol
People who talk about dark and evil are poisonous and dangerous.

I'm afraid around here words like dark and evil are joke words and the real power to insult and undermine is in thewords Poisonous and Dangerous.


You are just upping the Anti.

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« Reply #1873 on: July 13, 2018, 08:27:01 AM »
I fail to see what any of this (Brexit) has to do with religion or lack of. Agree with Trent.
It does in terms of voter demographics. Non religious people were far more likely to vote remain, religious people far more likely to vote leave.

So in the same manner that people have suggested that the old have screwed the young (and actually the country overall) by tipping the vote for leave, you can make the same argument that the religious have screwed the non religious (and actually the country overall) by tipping the vote for leave.

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« Reply #1874 on: July 13, 2018, 08:28:58 AM »
And the old are also more likely to be religious.