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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3500 on: February 19, 2019, 11:12:18 AM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on February 19, 2019, 10:43:27 AM
The answer's simple. Give Northern Ireland to the Republic, just as it should be. If those funny men in bowler hats who like to go marching don't like it, fuck them off.


It was a huge mistake to separate the North of Ireland from the rest of the country. NI has not covered itself in glory.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3501 on: February 19, 2019, 11:25:22 AM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on February 19, 2019, 10:43:27 AM
The answer's simple. Give Northern Ireland to the Republic, just as it should be. If those funny men in bowler hats who like to go marching don't like it, fuck them off.
So you suggest just ignoring any possible majority for staying in the UK, and imposing a solution?
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3502 on: February 19, 2019, 11:40:37 AM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on February 19, 2019, 10:43:27 AM
The answer's simple. Give Northern Ireland to the Republic, just as it should be. If those funny men in bowler hats who like to go marching don't like it, fuck them off.
   






Much though I loathe the Orange order with every fibre, I recognise that there exists a substantial proportion of the province whichrecognisesitselfas 'british'....even though their idea of being 'british' isn't one most of the rest of us would recognise.
You can't ignore them- and you can't force them onto the peaceful and more progressive Republic.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3503 on: February 19, 2019, 11:55:29 AM »
I am absolutely disgusted with the way the IRA has behaved over the years. >:( However, the British have treated the Irish is an abominable way in days of yore, the potato famine, being one example. It is no wonder the IRA was formed, even though their behaviour has been inexcusable.

My paternal grandfather was one of the soldiers sent to Ireland in 1917 to put down the uprising. He met my Irish grandmother there and married her a year or two later.  I have British/Irish citizenship.     
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3504 on: February 19, 2019, 12:02:40 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on February 19, 2019, 11:40:37 AM
   


Much though I loathe the Orange order with every fibre, I recognise that there exists a substantial proportion of the province whichrecognisesitselfas 'british'....even though their idea of being 'british' isn't one most of the rest of us would recognise.
You can't ignore them- and you can't force them onto the peaceful and more progressive Republic.



I think that there is though an increasing chance of a referendum in the next few years where there is a vote to join with the Republic.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3505 on: February 19, 2019, 01:23:13 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 19, 2019, 12:02:40 PM



I think that there is though an increasing chance of a referendum in the next few years where there is a vote to join with the Republic.
   


Yes; given the NI preference in the 2016 referendum, such a vote would be close.
My fears for the province are that if there is some sort of border - any sort - SF will not be able to stem the hotheads, and some form of 'troubles' will erupt, and, were some future referendum called, if NI voted in favour,would the Billyites accept the result....
Would the Republic even want the province - or wgat is left of it, since it already has three counties of Ulster - back?
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3506 on: February 19, 2019, 05:43:32 PM »
I see brexitting Swindon has lost several thousand jobs.
I expect Gammons to cover these patriots who have sacrificed all for the cause in terms of their mortgages and bills.

Brexitters remind me.....what is the fund set up for brexitting heroes.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3507 on: February 20, 2019, 10:30:29 AM »
Honda specifically said that their decision had nothing to do with Brexit, Phyllis.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3508 on: February 20, 2019, 10:49:46 AM »
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3509 on: February 20, 2019, 11:31:55 AM »
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3510 on: February 20, 2019, 08:33:36 PM »

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"If the British Army on the Western Front were lions led by donkeys, Brexit is those who feel they have nothing to lose led by those who will lose nothing"

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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3511 on: February 21, 2019, 07:44:19 AM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on February 20, 2019, 10:30:29 AM
Honda specifically said that their decision had nothing to do with Brexit, Phyllis.
Well they would say that. In fact they have the choice of building cars to sell in Europe in Japan with no tariffs or in Britain with tariffs. What would you do in their place?
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3512 on: February 21, 2019, 08:18:21 AM »
Quote from: jeremyp on February 21, 2019, 07:44:19 AM
Well they would say that.

No, that doesn't necessarily follow.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3513 on: February 21, 2019, 10:21:33 AM »
Quote from: jeremyp on February 21, 2019, 07:44:19 AM
Well they would say that. In fact they have the choice of building cars to sell in Europe in Japan with no tariffs or in Britain with tariffs. What would you do in their place?
Yes it seems a pretty obvious business decision to move production to a country where there will be no tariffs to export to Europe.

Honda did say that if there were custom checks between Britain and Europe it would disrupt supply of parts, so Brexit has been a factor, unless a deal is struck that leaves Britain part of a Customs union with the EU.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/16319736.honda-fears-of-unprecedented-disruption-from-brexit/

Then there is the issue that if Britain leaves the single market, it means ensuring it has some way to check and certify that its export of goods to the EU meets EU regulations, so Britain would remain subject to EU rules and regulations in this area and would have to meet the added cost of certification.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3514 on: February 21, 2019, 12:23:53 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on February 21, 2019, 08:18:21 AM
No, that doesn't necessarily follow.

Yes it is ridiculously unlucky that just as we are leaving the EU so many companies are leaving the UK *. Join the dots, please.

*Borrowed from James Melville.

Also from the same source:

Sony
Dyson
Panasonic
Lloyds
Unilever
Goldman Sachs
Barclays
Airbus
Flybmi
P&O
HSBC
JP Morgan
UBS
Ford
Hitachi
Toshiba
AXA
Honda
Moneygram
Philips
European Banking Authority
European Medicines Agency
Bank of America

But apparently, it’s got nothing to do with Brexit
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3515 on: February 21, 2019, 09:43:05 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on February 21, 2019, 08:18:21 AM
No, that doesn't necessarily follow.
Do you want to dress the rest of my post?
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3516 on: February 22, 2019, 08:07:43 AM »
Hi Everyone.

I'm starting a petition. Can I be assured that you will all sign it?

It's to the Archbishop of Canterbury and I'm requesting that Guy Fawkes be declared a saint.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3517 on: February 22, 2019, 10:30:10 AM »
And Honda is a little confused (or lying):

https://tinyurl.com/hondabrexit
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3518 on: February 22, 2019, 01:46:39 PM »
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3519 on: February 22, 2019, 03:32:58 PM »
Quote from: Harrowby Hall on February 22, 2019, 08:07:43 AM
Hi Everyone.

I'm starting a petition. Can I be assured that you will all sign it?

It's to the Archbishop of Canterbury and I'm requesting that Guy Fawkes be declared a saint.


I am sure he was as saintly as many who have been declared saints, like that awful woman Mother Teresa!
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3520 on: February 23, 2019, 06:13:38 PM »
I once produced a turd that resembled Andrew Bridgen.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3521 on: February 24, 2019, 10:07:43 AM »
Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on February 23, 2019, 06:13:38 PM
I once produced a turd that resembled Andrew Bridgen.
Vlad, the Turd Inspector!

Is that just a hobby or an obsession or an occupation of yours?.

P.s.
Was that before or after you polished it?
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3522 on: February 24, 2019, 10:28:34 AM »
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3523 on: February 24, 2019, 10:52:49 AM »
Quote from: Bramble on February 24, 2019, 10:28:34 AM
Nice to see someone else found Giles Frazer as annoying as I did https://tinyurl.com/y6co9xzs

He's a regular on 'The Moral Maze' podcast, so I've heard him often: he is indeed an arse.
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Re: Brexit - the next steps
« Reply #3524 on: February 24, 2019, 01:19:55 PM »
Quote from: Sebastian Toe on February 24, 2019, 10:07:43 AM
Vlad, the Turd Inspector!

Is that just a hobby or an obsession or an occupation of yours?.

P.s.
Was that before or after you polished it?
Yes
They are making a film about it.

The Turd Man

Starring Orson Smells
And
Joseph Rotten.
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