Brexit - the next steps

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Phyllis,

As MacEnroe would say "You cannot be serious".   

What did billionaire Sir Jim Ratcliffe do for any of the brexitter's?  Just what benefit did they get from his money?

The truth is,if he left GB then it is because he would have left anyway with or without Brexit.

Brexit is about what the people want not what billionaires are doing.

Truth is with the money he has, he can live anywhere with or without Brexit and his company if based here can trade where they want now. Did we benefit him with his company.

A lot of companies who did not originally want Brexit are now seeing the benefit of an open market regarding trading with other Countries. A lot more Countries to trade with and a larger income  which benefits all.  Are you sure you were serious??

If it is no skin of his nose whether Brexit happens or not. Why did he support something that is and is going to impoverish others?


If you think Brexit is about you want rather than what Millionaires/Billionaires want
then your are being very foolish indeed.

[Sassy]

I am absolutely disgusted with the way the IRA has behaved over the years. However, the British have treated the Irish is an abominable way in days of yore, the potato famine, being one example. It is no wonder the IRA was formed, even though their behaviour has been inexcusable.

My paternal grandfather was one of the soldiers sent to Ireland in 1917 to put down the uprising. He met my Irish grandmother there and married her a year or two later.  I have British/Irish citizenship.     

Unless your passport show dual citizenship then you don't have  dual citizenship but you do have ancestry of British and Irish.

[Sassy]

I see brexitting Swindon has lost several thousand jobs.
I expect Gammons to cover these patriots who have sacrificed all for the cause in terms of their mortgages and bills.

Brexitters remind me.....what is the fund set up for brexitting heroes.

Forgive me, but Brexit  will show the loyal and disloyal.  No company provides work for the benefit of the worker.  It is all about making money.
If companies cared about their work force they would not be any job losses. We work to live not live to work.


This was a vote for the people by the people. The rest is irrelevant because the people are not defined by their jobs when it comes to their Country.
Do we really want companies here who do not give to hoots about their work force?

The industry of this country is not who the Country is. The people of this Country are representing themselves not industry. Voted to leave so let the Government get on with getting us out.

[Sassy]

Well they would say that. In fact they have the choice of building cars to sell in Europe in Japan with no tariffs or in Britain with tariffs. What would you do in their place?

BUY BRITISH....LOL.

They may save a little a on the swings but it will cost more on the roundabout. It is a lot of money to export the cars. Cutting nose off to spite face makes cars dearer too.
Seems  Honda isn't thinking at all. I would not buy Honda on principle now.

[Sassy]

Yes it is ridiculously unlucky that just as we are leaving the EU so many companies are leaving the UK *. Join the dots, please.

*Borrowed from James Melville.

Also from the same source:

Sony
Dyson
Panasonic
Lloyds
Unilever
Goldman Sachs
Barclays
Airbus
Flybmi
P&O
HSBC
JP Morgan
UBS
Ford
Hitachi
Toshiba
AXA
Honda
Moneygram
Philips
European Banking Authority
European Medicines Agency
Bank of America

But apparently, it’s got nothing to do with Brexit

How many of those companies are european companies?

Are the banks really going to shut down like LLoyds with our money in them?
How many of those companies are British or originated here?

Who owns them if any registered here?

You just could not see it, could you.  It was about taking over our Country not support it.  The Gas and electric company British Gas and Powergen/Norweb we owned. Now the companies owned by foreign countries like France and Germany charging us through the eyes and nose for our own fuel.
We pay a tv licence but pay for our tv at source through other companies.

They mounted a financial take over of our companies and assets and then proceeded to charge inflated rates for our own fuel.

If you really understood what Brexit is about, you would know it is about saving our identity and individualism as a Country to allow us to breath and live on our own without the use of a life support system switched on an run by the EU. Wake up.... Brexit is a narrow escape from worse things to come.

[Sassy]

Hi Everyone.

I'm starting a petition. Can I be assured that you will all sign it?

It's to the Archbishop of Canterbury and I'm requesting that Guy Fawkes be declared a saint.

Do you believe he showed Allegiance in his actions to God and Mankind?

You are a person who believes the Ice berg should have been left in charge of the Titanic.

Jesting aside... Do you feel you accomplished anything by your remark?

Or like when the ice berg was put in charge of the Titanic, do you get that sinking feeling?..

[Sassy]

I am sure he was as saintly as many who have been declared saints, like that awful woman Mother Teresa!

Compare your life to that of Mother Teresa who do you believe lived and lead the better life?

So using your comparison and knowing she dedicated her life to helping others and you think she is 'awful' what does that make you?

In Mother Teresa own  words:-

Spread love everywhere you go. Let no one ever come to you without leaving happier.

Peace begins with a smile..

If you judge people, you have no time to love them.

In the last one she says:  "If you judge people, you have no time to love them."

Is she right?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Forgive me, but Brexit  will show the loyal and disloyal.  No company provides work for the benefit of the worker.  It is all about making money.
If companies cared about their work force they would not be any job losses. We work to live not live to work.


This was a vote for the people by the people. The rest is irrelevant because the people are not defined by their jobs when it comes to their Country.
Do we really want companies here who do not give to hoots about their work force?

The industry of this country is not who the Country is. The people of this Country are representing themselves not industry. Voted to leave so let the Government get on with getting us out.

Industry is what wins wars, it is what people do for at least a third of there day, Industry is what puts food on the table, what pays for ambulances and care. Industry IS the people. Before Brexit, that aberration in the grey matter of the Brexiteer and the twinkle in the financial ballbag of the disaster capitalist there was industry and industry will be there after the last livelihood which went because of Brexit is restored.


Brexiteers lied to you about brexit and you entered into it ridiculously uninformed and have chosen to remain that way.


On the other hand if you are going to throw your house open as a soup kitchen and wayhouse for those made unemployed by Brexit, I take it all back.

[wigginhall]

Jim, nice one, previous page.  I saw a short version, the UK proposed the backstop, and then accused the other side of accepting it.   All too surreal.

[Spud]

Spud,

Did you know the plan was to make the Roman Catholic Church the main religion of the EU in the future this helped get those Countries on board.

As we have seen with the Good Friday Agreement, one way to prevent conflict caused by religious differences is to reduce barriers to trade and travel between countries. The EU does this.

Just like Hitler the EU would stop at nothing to keep the Countries in the Union where they can control them.

We cannot become reliant on just a few Countries for our trade and living.

We aren't.

Read the Tower of Babel Spud. Genesis 11:1-9 and see what disaster could await with Countries of one union with one language.

The EU preserves the different languages.

English is spoken a lot as a second language.  Just think about this very carefully what I am going to tell you.  King James Bible
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
How would you get this to happen throughout the world?

Revelation is written in symbols; buying and selling is not meant to be taken literally.

[Roses]

Compare your life to that of Mother Teresa who do you believe lived and lead the better life?

So using your comparison and knowing she dedicated her life to helping others and you think she is 'awful' what does that make you?

In Mother Teresa own  words:-

Spread love everywhere you go. Let no one ever come to you without leaving happier.

Peace begins with a smile..

If you judge people, you have no time to love them.

In the last one she says:  "If you judge people, you have no time to love them."

Is she right?

I wouldn't refuse to give my patients pain killers like that ghastly  MT did saying suffering was good for the soul, the sick creep! I met someone who used to work with her and have it first hand that is what she did.

[Anchorman]

Spud,

Did you know the plan was to make the Roman Catholic Church the main religion of the EU in the future this helped get those Countries on board.

Just like Hitler the EU would stop at nothing to keep the Countries in the Union where they can control them.

We cannot become reliant on just a few Countries for our trade and living.

Read the Tower of Babel Spud. Genesis 11:1-9 and see what disaster could await with Countries of one union with one language.
English is spoken a lot as a second language.  Just think about this very carefully what I am going to tell you.  King James Bible
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
How would you get this to happen throughout the world?

Our lives and the things that happen are part of a bigger plant.  King James Bible
And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?
Isaiah 46:10 King James Version (KJV)
10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:


Do you know why the people of earth not saved will carry on living a normal life right to the end and allowing these things?  They do not believe or know the word of God and turn so they might be saved. The message of Christ is a universal message which stretches through out the world and therefore the universe for none exist outside the mind of a man to see and witness it.

Christ is the Son of God and all who believe will be saved.  But believers can now see the start of the end as the world forms the alliances which will lead to the " A piece of Bread could buy a bag a of Godl"  Gods people will survive as he lead them in the wilderness and provided he will provide during those times too. Be it, that he takes them out of that place or gives them their needs to survive.

God has always shown that his people survive because his provision does not rely on the worlds abundance which belongs to him.

If you take the worlds way of thinking you see they believe they earn everything they get by working hard and so deserve everything that the poor don't have.

Gods way is clear... the food and the animal chain are all provided by him the fullness of the earth is Gods. He ultimately gave it, so all mankind could survive.

The mankind today has no humility they believe they have earned everything they have.  In truth what they earn is worth nothing without Gods provision of food.

Take away the  abundance of fruit, vegtables and farm animals and what are you left with? Hard work, earnings and nothing to spend it on.

Hope it helps/. ><>           

   


This is on a par with the 'np moon landings' guff.
Tell the Germans that they are majority Catholic - or the Dutch....not that it matters.
No-one can 'make' anyone conform to any church.
Not even the 8illuminati.

[Anchorman]

Do you believe he showed Allegiance in his actions to God and Mankind?

You are a person who believes the Ice berg should have been left in charge of the Titanic.

Jesting aside... Do you feel you accomplished anything by your remark?

Or like when the ice berg was put in charge of the Titanic, do you get that sinking feeling?..

               



Whilst no-one can condone his intention, I applaud his feelings. Jamie Stuart was a traitor.

[wigginhall]

Saying that Mother Theresa led a better life than Joe Bloggs seems barmy to me.   As LR said, her methods seem very dubious, but in any case, what does "better" mean?

[Spud]

Ken Clarke: "... It gives the impression that the government is trying to pull the wool over our eyes"
Someone in the House: "AH....!"
Love it :-)

[Aruntraveller]

How many of those companies are european companies?

Are the banks really going to shut down like LLoyds with our money in them?
How many of those companies are British or originated here?

Who owns them if any registered here?

You just could not see it, could you.  It was about taking over our Country not support it.  The Gas and electric company British Gas and Powergen/Norweb we owned. Now the companies owned by foreign countries like France and Germany charging us through the eyes and nose for our own fuel.
We pay a tv licence but pay for our tv at source through other companies.

They mounted a financial take over of our companies and assets and then proceeded to charge inflated rates for our own fuel.

If you really understood what Brexit is about, you would know it is about saving our identity and individualism as a Country to allow us to breath and live on our own without the use of a life support system switched on an run by the EU. Wake up.... Brexit is a narrow escape from worse things to come.

Do you even have a clue as to what you are talking about?

As an example let us take British Gas. This was sold off by Thatcher in the 80's to release cash to give tax cuts to the rich. As well as to satisfy the idealogical zeal of the right of the tory party for their doctrine of private=good, and public=bad. It had fuck all to do with the EU. It was the stupidity and short sightedness of our government,  elected by us, that led to the sale of our utilities. Now if you look across the channel, many countries, France and Germany among nthem had the sense to hold onto their services and protect them, which they all did legally under EU law. So quite frankly your theory is just nonsense. It was the ineptitude of successive governments voted for by us (not by any European voters) that led to the UK shedding its services to the highest bidder from overseas.

I cant help but think you dont have that strong a grasp on reality. Or you are displaying an incredible lack of knowledge on the history of the UK economy.

[Nearly Sane]

Watching the events tonight is ridiculous in so many ways, and May has substantial responsibility for this but it's frightening that I watched Fox and Gove mirror what they were 35 years ago, and the house mirror what I saw 35 years ago.

[wigginhall]

I don't know where they are going with this, as no deal is the default.   How can you reject a default?   The Tories are also appearing to bring May's deal back a 3rd time.   Oh FFS.

[Nearly Sane]

And the vote on the Spelman amendment was a big shock. Be interesting if any ministers voted for it.

[jeremyp]

Parliament has voted no to a No Deal Brexit. The vote is non binding though.

[jeremyp]

I don't know where they are going with this, as no deal is the default.   How can you reject a default?   The Tories are also appearing to bring May's deal back a 3rd time.   Oh FFS.

the vote on No Deal is non binding so it can still happen. Had it been binding there would be no option except to ask for an extension on article 50 and if refused by the EU, to withdraw it altogether.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

MP's vote to reject No Deal Brexit by 312 to 308.
So there you go Hard Brexiteers, in your own terms you have been overwhelmingly been beaten by an overwhelming majority.
The people have spoken.
Orang Utan sit pensive and small multicoloured Hummingbirds skip from flower to flower.

[ad_orientem]

Parliament has voted no to a No Deal Brexit. The vote is non binding though.

And by only four votes. If Brexit doesn't go through in some form, expect riots.

[Harrowby Hall]

Parliament has voted no to a No Deal Brexit. The vote is non binding though.

The original referendum was also non-binding ...

[Nearly Sane]

Parliament has voted no to a No Deal Brexit. The vote is non binding though.

It can't be in these votes even with an extension.