Brexit - the next steps

[Outrider]

Are we set to be the leader of the Third World?

Up against the productivity of Brazil, most of Africa, Malaysia... leader is, I think, optimistic.  Watch as we cling to that automatic Security Council seat at the UN as though our credibility depended on it.

O.

[Nearly Sane]

Brexit is well under way (assumption). This will lead to the UK making favourable agreements with all our important trading partners. We know this is the case because our highly intelligent and much admired prime minister has told us so (so it must be true). We can create a trading partnership with China, the world's dominant manufacturing nation, which will be far more advantageous than the current EU partnership.

Our extremely competent government, at the urging of our greatest friend on the planet, the articulate and intellectual giant POTUS Donald J Trump, has decided that any equipment in our digital telecommunications systems must be stripped out as quickly as possible.

China has warned us that the consequences of this action could be serious ...

Having walked away from the world's largest trading bloc, the UK is now sticking two fingers (and more) at China.

Are we set to be the leader of the Third World?

Worth watching the discussion on Dateline: London about this and other aspects of what is happening with China and the US. We couldn't really form a close trading relationship  without selling Hong Kong down the river.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m93g

[Nearly Sane]

What a surprise! Govt reneging on promises.



https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/gove-branded-liar-as-mps-vote-down-animal-welfare-amendment/21/07/?fbclid=IwAR16ucRbZJMp-fd66d-Yn0a93zarR5tDTxitBu9jjve_YTTN7Nq1mkHu76A

[Aruntraveller]

What a surprise! Govt reneging on promises.

Same thing with the NHS. We will never put it up for sale says Boris. Then votes to allow it to be put up for sale.

Depressing thing is it will not make a whit of difference due to the indifference of a largely apathetic voting population who just consider these lies (and oh so many lies) are business as usual. Allowed by a largely compliant, or do I mean complicit, fourth estate.

[Gordon]

One wonders how long it will take before the poor saps who voted for both Brexit and the Tories will realise just how naive (I could use a stronger adjective) they have been.

I have come to the view now that we should welcome the most catastrophic Brexit that it is possible to imagine: I suspect that is what the Brexit enthusiasts actually want anyway, in that it might be the quickest route to Scottish independence or, failing that, the demise of the current UK government/Tory party at the earliest opportunity.

[Aruntraveller]

To some posters on here we will no doubt get through Brexit on our Blitz mentality alone. To those of us who think a little more deeply we should be extremely concerned that the best and the brightest of us are heading elsewhere to work. That alone should get alarm bells ringing in heads, I doubt it will though. After all, Brexit means Brexit, even if you do end up sitting in a shithole third world country.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/02/brexit-fuels-brain-drain-as-skilled-britons-head-to-the-eu

[Walt Zingmatilder]

One wonders how long it will take before the poor saps who voted for both Brexit and the Tories will realise just how naive (I could use a stronger adjective) they have been.

I have come to the view now that we should welcome the most catastrophic Brexit that it is possible to imagine: I suspect that is what the Brexit enthusiasts actually want anyway, in that it might be the quickest route to Scottish independence or, failing that, the demise of the current UK government/Tory party at the earliest opportunity.

Unless you have a well stocked bunker or are cannibalistic a no deal Brexit is to be feared not gleefully expected.
Johnson has already shown us he is freaked when uncontrollable (for him) disaster stares him in the
face.
It looks as if he’d only budgeted for one disaster where he could rely on his bullshitting skills to oil his way out. Co vid hasn’t read Dom’s memos on how things should play out.

I think Johnson will need to go begging. To ameliorate no deal Brexit.

[Nearly Sane]

All going well....


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53854730

[Aruntraveller]

All going well....


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53854730

What a shame there isn't an oven ready deal. Still I've never heard of such a thing, no politician has ever uttered that phrase.

[Nearly Sane]

Even better


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8665557/amp/Boris-Johnson-hires-Brexit-backing-ex-Australian-PM-Tony-Abbott-help-lead-global-trade-push.html?__twitter_impression=true

[SteveH]

Even better


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8665557/amp/Boris-Johnson-hires-Brexit-backing-ex-Australian-PM-Tony-Abbott-help-lead-global-trade-push.html?__twitter_impression=true

Saints preserve us - Abbott is an even bigger buffoon than Johnson!

[jeremyp]

Saints preserve us - Abbott is an even bigger buffoon than Johnson!

That is probably as bad as making Tony Blair envoy for peace in the Middle East.

Let's hope Trump wins in November or he'll be our next Foreign Secretary.

[Nearly Sane]

It is all going swimmingly


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-deal-uk-talks-latest-germany-cancels-eu-summit-a9690911.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1SELSPWuwbxxqvL81rBYzM4iGmxcanwXo2QcKLjFCNG0VB4-u3jkJlgdU#Echobox=1598538251

[Nearly Sane]

Hancock's Half Baked


https://news.sky.com/story/tony-abbott-matt-hancock-defends-misogynist-ex-australia-pm-over-possible-trade-role-12062211

[Harrowby Hall]

Possibly not the most important element of Brexit on most peoples' minds, but, my mobile phone bill for August in France now includes a £2.50 data roaming charge.

[jeremyp]

Possibly not the most important element of Brexit on most peoples' minds, but, my mobile phone bill for August in France now includes a £2.50 data roaming charge.

Trouble is that there will be hundreds of little things like that being taken away that people never realised were thanks to the EU. The Brexiteers will blame it all on evil Europe, of course.

[Nearly Sane]

Bunch of lying dangerous fuckwits.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54051933

[jeremyp]

Bunch of lying dangerous fuckwits.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54051933

He's playing chicken with the EU to try to get them to move on the negotiations. Trouble is, he's driving a Boris bike and they are in a 40 tonne artic.

[Nearly Sane]

He's playing chicken with the EU to try to get them to move on the negotiations. Trouble is, he's driving a Boris bike and they are in a 40 tonne artic.

And it's putting the Good Friday Agreement at risk. Even trying this as a tactic in chicken pisses away any good reputation the govt has.

[jeremyp]

And it's putting the Good Friday Agreement at risk. Even trying this as a tactic in chicken pisses away any good reputation the govt has.

What good reputation?

[Nearly Sane]

What good reputation?

Residual from UK govts sticking to international agreements. 

[jeremyp]

Residual from UK govts sticking to international agreements.

ah.

It's a depressing sign of the times that sticking to an international agreement is considered good rather than simply taken for granted.

[Nearly Sane]

All going swimmingly


https://www.itv.com/news/2020-09-08/head-of-governments-legal-department-quits-over-boris-johnsons-brexit-backtrack-plan

[ippy]

I'm really surprised to hear about the pushing and shoving going on at the final stages of our negotiations with the EU? 

[Nearly Sane]

All ok that we are going to break the law - It's only in a specific and limited way.


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-54073836