Brexit - the next steps

[Gordon]

Yes it's all going swimmingly well. My state of mind is worrying me. I'm entertaining dark thoughts about the exact methods I will use to torture Tim Martin.

You could make him eat a meal in Weatherspoons every day for all eternity - I think that would be proportionate. 

[Harrowby Hall]

A new level of lunacy?

According to The Connexion, a newspaper published in France for British ex-pats, a new regulation comes into force soon:

If you intend to drive your British vehicle in France – or anywhere else in the EU – you will now need a “UK” sticker on your car.
This replaces the GB sticker or magnet that was previously needed when driving abroad, and the UK government guidance states: “If you have a GB sticker, cover or remove it.”

The new rule will come into effect on September 28th, 2021 for British registered cars driving in the EU, with the exception of Ireland, which does not require a sticker or magnet.
The UK government specifies: “You will need to display a UK sticker clearly on the rear of your vehicle if your number plate has any of the following:
   • a GB identifier with the Union flag (also known as the Union Jack)
   • a Euro symbol
   • a national flag of England, Scotland or Wales
   • numbers and letters only – no flag or identifier

If your number plate includes the UK identifier with the Union flag (also known as the Union Jack), you do not need a UK sticker. If you’re in Spain, Cyprus or Malta, you must display a UK sticker no matter what is on your number plate.

My assumption is that this is a message directed towards Northern Ireland.

[jeremyp]

A new level of lunacy?

Before EU number plates IIRC, you had to have a GB sticker. Now it needs to say "UK". Where's the lunacy (excepting the lunacy of leaving the EU in the first place)?

My assumption is that this is a message directed towards Northern Ireland.

I don't follow. It will apply to all cars from the UK.

[Udayana]

Before EU number plates IIRC, you had to have a GB sticker. Now it needs to say "UK". Where's the lunacy (excepting the lunacy of leaving the EU in the first place)?
I don't follow. It will apply to all cars from the UK.

They have already said it is to be "more inclusive" to NI - what that message means and how it will be taken are still to be determined.

That they want people with GB plates to change them or buy and apply a UK sticker after already having made people with EU plates change to GB ones or GB stickers in January just shows that the rules are being set by bureaucrats with their heads up their backsides.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Our local Wetherspoons is a decommissioned Baptist church. Hopefully a reconversion is in the offing.

[Harrowby Hall]

I don't follow. It will apply to all cars from the UK.

"GB" stands for "Great Britain" - a geographical term being the name of the island containing England, Scotland and Wales. "UK" includes Northern Ireland. It is, perhaps, a signal to Northern Ireland telling it "where it belongs".

[jeremyp]

They have already said it is to be "more inclusive" to NI - what that message means and how it will be taken are still to be determined.

Northern Ireland technically isn't in Great Britain, but it is in the UK. So it will be literally more inclusive.

That they want people with GB plates to change them or buy and apply a UK sticker after already having made people with EU plates change to GB ones or GB stickers in January just shows that the rules are being set by bureaucrats with their heads up their backsides.

It's just a sticker.

[Aruntraveller]

Will this nation ever wake up to the fact that they have elected a complete and utter tosspot as PM:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/06/boris-johnsons-biggest-lie-europe-coming-home-single-market

[Aruntraveller]

As ever the benefits just keep on coming:

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/uk-prove-ineligible-for-lugano-membership/?

I realise this is a little mentioned area but it is incredibly important for our standing in the world. In this case lessening that standing.

[jeremyp]

Brexit just keeps on giving

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-58501527

[Nearly Sane]

Since I agree with Dominic Minghella on much of the policy  stuff in this thread, it might be expected that I agree with his position about 'ordinary people' but it seems to me based on a  simpliistic combination of the Ad Hominem and No True Scotsman fallacies. It precludes winning people over and winning the argument by dismissing the people not dealing with the arguments. It's deeply depressing.


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1438470113812959233.html

[Nearly Sane]

Cheaper gas bills under Brexit....


https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/boris-johnson-michael-gove-brexit-gas-bills-291199/

[Nearly Sane]

Lying dick PM continues to lie

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58641114

[Gordon]

More confirmation of how well Brexit is going.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/22/brexit-key-factor-in-huge-drop-in-2021-great-britain-to-ireland-exports

[Nearly Sane]

Indeed

[Aruntraveller]

The view from The Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/09/30/brexit-food-gas-shortage-predictable/

[Spud]

This is funny:
https://twitter.com/MattCartoonist/status/1442897700039454720/photo/1

[jeremyp]

The view from The Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/09/30/brexit-food-gas-shortage-predictable/

That just about sums it up. One thing that I didn't realise is that we haven't even begun to impose border controls on EU goods coming in yet. When that starts (if it starts), it'll make the current shortages seem like a bountiful time of plenty.

[Aruntraveller]

That just about sums it up. One thing that I didn't realise is that we haven't even begun to impose border controls on EU goods coming in yet. When that starts (if it starts), it'll make the current shortages seem like a bountiful time of plenty.

And, of course, as so often happens, I think to myself "you can't make this shit up" :

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19616582.uk-government-mocked-giving-brexit-contract-hinduja-global-solutions/

Global Britain giving all our jobs to the whole globe.

[Nearly Sane]

Taking back control

[Nearly Sane]

This

[Nearly Sane]

And this

[Udayana]

I think the Tories are catching on ... they need to take us back to before supermarkets, immigration, vaccines,  socialism, railways, industrial revolutions, democracy - not just back to the 70's! 

Then they really can take back control 


 

[Gordon]

I've been noting much of the waffle coming from various Tory fuckwits today: the notion that some of the current difficulties are to be expected as part of the transition arising from Brexit is laughable since, if that were true, then pig farmers would not be faced with the prospect of slaughtering their own livestock because the abattoirs no longer have the staff and there might have been a few more tanker drivers kicking around.
   

[Udayana]

I've been noting much of the waffle coming from various Tory fuckwits today: the notion that some of the current difficulties are to be expected as part of the transition arising from Brexit is laughable since, if that were true, then pig farmers would not be faced with the prospect of slaughtering their own livestock because the abattoirs no longer have the staff and there might have been a few more tanker drivers kicking around.
 

hmm .. that's Project Fear - so can't be happening  - it must be due to covid and Starmer...

Hey, if it wasn't for cheap EU immigrants - truck drivers and butchers, farmers and fishermen would have been living in luxury for the last 40 years! Nurses, carers and hospitality workers would be highly paid .. good thing we are free of EU rules that stopped us paying them properly!
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