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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2017, 05:18:55 PM »
Good because it is a silly notion, especially those who believe in the 'once saved always saved garbage.' I can only think that one or two of the so called 'saved' on this forum subscribe to it, because they make the faith a laughing stock with their unpleasant posts! :o
I think it is a notion that hits home....and that shows either in religion or the retreat from it.

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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2017, 05:43:58 PM »
I think it is a notion that hits home....and that shows either in religion or the retreat from it.
There's no retreat from "no reason to think that this is true," Vlad. Just the "no reason to think that this is true" bit. Your suspicion of deeper psychological motives (aka your pet theorem of "god-dodging", which has on your own evidence always seemed applicable only to you and nobody else) will of course continue to be hammered into the ground, but as baselessly and unevidenced as always, and therefore summarily dismissed.
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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2017, 08:16:36 PM »
As a matter of interest, is "Celtic" even a thing? Were the pre-Roman communities in (what is now) England, Scotland Wales and Ireland all part of a single culture?
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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2017, 07:17:06 AM »
There's no retreat from "no reason to think that this is true," Vlad. Just the "no reason to think that this is true" bit. Your suspicion of deeper psychological motives (aka your pet theorem of "god-dodging", which has on your own evidence always seemed applicable only to you and nobody else) will of course continue to be hammered into the ground, but as baselessly and unevidenced as always, and therefore summarily dismissed.
Of course there is reason. An ego will recoil at hearing it is not ultimately OK or good by way of reflex rather than consideration.

The heated response the very suggestion receives testifies to that.

People may bang on here about the equality of religions but the level of tolerance depends on how judgmental of the ego they are felt to be.
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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2017, 09:28:21 AM »
Of course there is reason. An ego will recoil at hearing it is not ultimately OK or good by way of reflex rather than consideration.
The point you seem unable to grasp is that you can't be told you're not OK (or that you are, for that matter) by something fictitious.

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The heated response the very suggestion receives testifies to that.
... and hot is cold, and black is white. Stay away from zebra crossings, Vladdychops.

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People may bang on here about the equality of religions

Do they?

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but the level of tolerance depends on how judgmental of the ego they are felt to be.
I'd have thought it depends how dickish they are. Christianity - dickish level: high, historically. Jainism - dickish level: low.
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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2017, 09:42:45 AM »
There's something incredibly egotistical about someone who believes that their lack of ego makes them superior to others.

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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2017, 09:43:49 AM »
There's something incredibly egotistical about someone who believes that their lack of ego makes them superior to others.
Incredibly hypocritical too, as in itself it's a sign of ego. The Dharmic religions have always been aware of this trap.
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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2017, 10:01:08 AM »
There's something incredibly egotistical about someone who believes that their lack of ego makes them superior to others.
Not really because resistance to God is universal in that everybody experiences it at one point and/or another.
In any case contributing to this forum is mostly on the basis of some kind of felt superiority isn't it?
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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2017, 10:04:02 AM »
Not really because resistance to God is universal in that everybody experiences it at one point and/or another.
Your evidence for this claim is ... what?
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In any case contributing to this forum is mostly on the basis of some kind of felt superiority isn't it and one could argue that whereas a monotheist recognises power from God, a pagan, well
Gods (if they're polytheistic)?
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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2017, 10:08:29 AM »
There's something incredibly egotistical about someone who believes that their lack of ego makes them superior to others.
Is it me being superior..........or you feeling inferior?

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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2017, 10:10:10 AM »
Is it me being superior..........or you feeling inferior?
Pretty sure both states are entirely illusory, Vlad.
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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2017, 10:17:06 AM »
Pretty sure both states are entirely illusory, Vlad.

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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2017, 10:44:27 AM »
Pretty sure both states are entirely illusory, Vlad.
Yes Im sure Rhiannon would claim superiority.

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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2017, 10:46:27 AM »
Yes Im sure Rhiannon would claim superiority.
Not difficult, Vlad.
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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2017, 10:52:49 AM »
Not difficult, Vlad.
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Re: Celtic Spirituality.
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2017, 10:53:57 AM »
Oh come on Vlad! I'm sure you can, if you try ;)
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.