Islamification in the UK.

[Brownie]

Rose:  (and what went before....) 

It's the minority on both sides causing fear.

Yet fear of these things are spread, until everyone starts feeling threatened.

The answer is for people to talk, Muslims feel threatened too sometimes.

These tiny minorities make everyone uncomfortable.


Thumbs up for that post, Rose.

They  are extremely tiny minorities but because they receive more publicity than anyone anywhere else people forget or don't believe that.

Luton is one place but Tower Hamlets in London is always making news yet there is only a tiny pocket that is what could be called 'a Muslim area'.   Canary wharf isn't!

Most of us are not extremists, we live and let live.

Not only do people need to talk but boycott the newspapers which constantly stir up fear and hatred with their sensational articles.

[Walter]

I think you all need to wake up and look around you . Our way of life is under threat and as for London Mayor  I don't trust him .

If the rest of the country had had a say in it I don't think a Muslim would be in charge of OUR capital city.

[Brownie]

Sadiq Khan is very much a Londoner..  He was known as someone who worked in the field of human rights.     People voted for the man and his personal faith was not relevant. Tbh, I've not known any previous mayor's faith, or lack of, to be noteworthy.  If he isn't up to the job he won't be voted in again.

[Owlswing]

I think you all need to wake up and look around you . Our way of life is under threat and as for London Mayor  I don't trust him .

If the rest of the country had had a say in it I don't think a Muslim would be in charge of OUR capital city.

Sorry to say this Walter, but this post says far more about you than about the situation you are complaining about.

It certainly, from my perspective, does you no credit whatsoever - in fact, it is almost Trumpian in tone.

[Walter]

Sorry to say this Walter, but this post says far more about you than about the situation you are complaining about.

It certainly, from my perspective, does you no credit whatsoever - in fact, it is almost Trumpian in tone.

I thank you for the compliment, cheers.

[Owlswing]

I thank you for the compliment, cheers.

If you take that as a compliment . . . you have achieved something rarely seen on this forum . . . havin me consign you to the greatest depths of contempt imaginable.

[Walter]

If you take that as a compliment . . . you have achieved something rarely seen on this forum . . . havin me consign you to the greatest depths of contempt imaginable.

fortunately for me I have no respect for your authority

[Walter]

I think you all need to wake up and look around you . Our way of life is under threat and as for London Mayor  I don't trust him .

If the rest of the country had had a say in it I don't think a Muslim would be in charge of OUR capital city.

I invite  you to look at Pat Condell on youtube

[Owlswing]

fortunately for me I have no respect for your authority

You have no respect FULL STOP!

Neither do you deserve any from any one else!

[Owlswing]

I invite  you to look at Pat Condell on youtube

If he is your authority, no wonder you have such opinions. It is people like you and your hero who turn ordinary decent Muslims to militancy of one sort and level or another and decent whites into anti-Muslim militants.

I, at least, have the ability to ignore you - which is probably as well as I would otherwise end up being suspended or banned and I am not going to give you that satisfaction.

Fare well.

[Brownie]

Pat Condell makes a career out of taking the piss.  Nothing wrong with that in itself, many comedians do so, but constantly sniping at people of religion wears a bit thin after a while.

Regarding Sadiq Khan, I doubt many are worried about his faith, he's a moderate man and the British tend to go for moderates when it comes to religion, it's when people bang on about their religion all the time they are put off; he is a Londoner so he understands the concerns of Londoners.   I like what I have seen so far but he has yet to prove himself.

[Walter]

If he is your authority, no wonder you have such opinions. It is people like you and your hero who turn ordinary deent Muslims to militancy of one sort and level or another and decent whites into anti-Muslim militants.

I, at least, have the ability to ignore you - which is probably as well as I would otherwise end up being suspended or banned and I am not going to give you that satisfaction.

Fare well.

get over yourself

here it is , this is a perfect example of the hate generated just because someone sees a situation in a different way from you

[Brownie]

Who is hating Pat Condell?  Hate is too strong a word.

[Walter]

see #625 on
more election stuff trhead

[JP]

Pat Condell makes a career out of taking the piss.  Nothing wrong with that in itself, many comedians do so, but constantly sniping at people of religion wears a bit thin after a while.

What about sniping at just, religion.

[Walter]

What about sniping at just, religion.

as far I can see he tells it like it is.

[JP]

I Like Pat Condell.

[Walter]

I Like Pat Condell.

CAREFUL, YOU CUOLD BE CALLED A RACIST

[JP]

If only Islam was a race eh.

Been here before Walter and I just don't get it.

[Walter]

If only Islam was a race eh.

Been here before Walter and I just don't get it.

for some the distinction is not apparent.

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

as far I can see he tells it like it is.

When Pat Condell "tells it like it is" let's hope he does a bit better with accuracy than some of the information in the link JP posted to the organisation One Law For All.  He is a comedian though so I doubt it - he is almost certainly less concerned about accuracy and more interested in generalising for better comedic effect. He described Muslim women who cover their faces in Britain as mentally ill. I suppose it is as accurate as saying men who wear their trousers half way down their backsides are mentally ill. I doubt that people who have been professionally diagnosed as genuinely mentally ill will see the funny side of this.

[Walter]

When Pat Condell "tells it like it is" let's hope he does a bit better with accuracy than some of the information in the link JP posted to the organisation One Law For All.  He is a comedian though so I doubt it - he is almost certainly less concerned about accuracy and more interested in generalising for better comedic effect. He described Muslim women who cover their faces in Britain as mentally ill. I suppose it is as accurate as saying men who wear their trousers half way down their backsides are mentally ill. I doubt that people who have been professionally diagnosed as genuinely mentally ill will see the funny side of this.

I find nothing in your post which changes my mind.

I know he is a comedian but all the videos I've seen were not meant to be humorous, so bear that in mind. 

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

I find nothing in your post which changes my mind.

I wasn't expecting it to - people believe what they want to believe. Presumably you weren't expecting anything in your posts to change Alan Burn's mind.

I know he is a comedian but all the videos I've seen were not meant to be humorous, so bear that in mind.

Yes, not much humour in the situation.

Pat Condell calling someone mentally ill because they dress a different way is probably about as humorous as calling someone mentally ill, stupid or racist because they see a situation a different way.

[Brownie]

Gabriella: "Pat Condell calling someone mentally ill because they dress a different way is probably about as humorous as calling someone mentally ill, stupid or racist because they see a situation a different way."

Quite and it is an attitude I've come across quite a lot on many issues.  Particularly the 'stupid' and 'mentally ill' comments.  "Keep on taking the tablets", or "They need to get some help", etc.  The person saying it will say they were "joking" or being "ironic". 

There are limits.

[Walter]

I wasn't expecting it to - people believe what they want to believe. Presumably you weren't expecting anything in your posts to change Alan Burn's mind.
Yes, not much humour in the situation.

Pat Condell calling someone mentally ill because they dress a different way is probably about as humorous as calling someone mentally ill, stupid or racist because they see a situation a different way.

Actually I was

and if the god of Islam had wanted women to cover their faces , surely he would have provided a flap of skin which could be lowered or raised as appropriate.