Nigel Farage....Does a role need to be found for the man?

[Harrowby Hall]

I'm not , despair would be more accurate.

Explain.

On the basis of this kind of reply and the thread on "Islamification" you appear to have concerns about the modern world. Despair is a very grave state of mind. I hope that you are only using it rhetorically. If not, then you may have issues.

I note that the Oxford Dictionary "Word of the Year" is "post-truth". Post-truth is an adjective which considers conditions in which objective facts are less influential in determining opinion than emotion. Are you a "post-truther"? If so, you won't be the only one on this board.

[Walter]

Explain.

On the basis of this kind of reply and the thread on "Islamification" you appear to have concerns about the modern world. Despair is a very grave state of mind. I hope that you are only using it rhetorically. If not, then you may have issues.

I note that the Oxford Dictionary "Word of the Year" is "post-truth". Post-truth is an adjective which considers conditions in which objective facts are less influential in determining opinion than emotion. Are you a "post-truther"? If so, you won't be the only one on this board.

you are correct HH it was rhetorical and as for 'post- truthers' we have a problem.

[Walter]

although I do have concerns about the modern world, as you put it.

[floo]

I once read Lord Reith's biography. After the BBC he was at a bit of an end. Concerned with his welfare many in the establishment stated that 'he must be found a role''.

Has Nigel Farage reached that position among the celebrity wing of the great and good where he needs to be found a role?....and if so what role.

Cleaning out the sewers!

[Walter]

Cleaning out the sewers!

see? here we go again , I like Nigel Farage

[floo]

see? here we go again , I like Nigel Farage

Poor you! I can't see anything likeable about that nasty racist!

[Walter]

Poor you! I can't see anything likeable about that nasty racist!

are you confusing border control with racism?

[Gordon]

I think one of the issues surrounding Farage is that, and while no doubt he is an effective self-publicist, he is portrayed by the some sections of the media as being important on a UK-wide basis as opposed to just being locally important in areas where UKIP have some support and is seen as a potential threat by other parties.

I can't speak for my fellow Scots of course, but here in Scotland UKIP are pretty much a fringe party so the prominence Farage does get in UK media (such as the BBC) is disproportionate to the relevance of UKIP here in Scotland. We have our very own UKIP clown of course, by the name of Coburn, but he doesn't have much in the way of even local prominence (apart from when he makes an utter fool of himself: he has a talent for that). 

[Walter]

I think one of the issues surrounding Farage is that, and while no doubt he is an effective self-publicist, he is portrayed by the some sections of the media as being important on a UK-wide basis as opposed to just being locally important in areas where UKIP have some support and is seen as a potential threat by other parties.

I can't speak for my fellow Scots of course, but here in Scotland UKIP are pretty much a fringe party so the prominence Farage does get in UK media (such as the BBC) is disproportionate to the relevance of UKIP here in Scotland. We have our very own UKIP clown of course, by the name of Coburn, but he doesn't have much in the way of even local prominence (apart from when he makes an utter fool of himself: he has a talent for that).

do you know what, Gordon, reading your post has made me realise that I don't think UKIP when I hear his name. I don't mentally make the connection . for me he is an entity on his own . Strange, don't you think?

[Gordon]

do you know what, Gordon, reading your post has made me realise that I don't think UKIP when I hear his name. I don't mentally make the connection . for me he is an entity on his own . Strange, don't you think?

I have the opposite view, Walter: for me UKIP and Farage are interchangeable terms - possibly because UKIP without Farage have a low profile here.

[Walter]

I have the opposite view, Walter: for me UKIP and Farage are interchangeable terms - possibly because UKIP without Farage have a low profile here.

SOTLAND : England's biggest county.

I thank you.

[floo]

TWIT!

[Gordon]

SOTLAND : England's biggest county.

I thank you.

I'll leave the geography to you.

[Walter]

I'll leave the geography to you.

I've got leather patches on my jacket elbows, so don't mock.

[Gordon]

I've got leather patches on my jacket elbows, so don't mock.

So did my geography teacher!

[SusanDoris]

I like Nigel Farage

I'm tempted to ask why, but the answer will almost certainly make me cringe, so I won't.

[Walter]

I'm tempted to ask why, but the answer will almost certainly make me cringe, so I won't.

you're as bad as those religious types who will not have anything said against them and ignore stuff they don't like because it doesn't fit with their accepted view.

[floo]

I saw a news item which states the PM has refused to deny that Farage may get a Peerage, YE GODS!!!!!!!!!

Lord Nigel Farage of the UK Sewers!

[ProfessorDavey]

I saw a news item which states the PM has refused to deny that Farage may get a Peerage, YE GODS!!!!!!!!!

Lord Nigel Farage of the UK Sewers!

Much as I find Farage deeply odious, I don't think that should be a reason for him to be banned from being a peer. Sure we might him and UKIP appalling, but he has been leader of that party, which has gained 10% plus of votes in elections and he has been a pond-standing elected MEP (and currently still is). Considering others who have been elevated to a peerage, I don't think there is an objective reason (rather that the subjective I can't stand him) for his exclusion.

[Walter]

Much as I find Farage deeply odious, I don't think that should be a reason for him to be banned from being a peer. Sure we might him and UKIP appalling, but he has been leader of that party, which has gained 10% plus of votes in elections and he has been a pond-standing elected MEP (and currently still is). Considering others who have been elevated to a peerage, I don't think there is an objective reason (rather that the subjective I can't stand him) for his exclusion.

prof

please could you provide a short bullet point list of what you don't like about him/policies. I might be missing something

[ProfessorDavey]

prof

please could you provide a short bullet point list of what you don't like about him/policies. I might be missing something

Are you really so blinkered as to fail to see how many, many people see Farage. In pretty well every respect he stands for everything I loathe - little Englander, backward looking, petty nationalism. And on a personal level he is clearly borderline racist, deeply misogynist, anti the equality agenda and clearly a control freak who can't stand anyone else having the limelight. He comes across as a bully and shows a clear lack of respect for those who have different views. Finally I cannot stand his carefully constructed attempt to appear as the 'man of the people' on the side of ordinary folk, when he is quite clearly entirely the reverse - in others a figure of the extreme establishment elite and with a reactionary right wing agenda that would benefit people like him at the expense of ordinary folk.

Do I need to go on!!!

[Walter]

Are you really so blinkered as to fail to see how many, many people see Farage. In pretty well every respect he stands for everything I loathe - little Englander, backward looking, petty nationalism. And on a personal level he is clearly borderline racist, deeply misogynist, anti the equality agenda and clearly a control freak who can't stand anyone else having the limelight. He comes across as a bully and shows a clear lack of respect for those who have different views. Finally I cannot stand his carefully constructed attempt to appear as the 'man of the people' on the side of ordinary folk, when he is quite clearly entirely the reverse - in others a figure of the extreme establishment elite and with a reactionary right wing agenda that would benefit people like him at the expense of ordinary folk.

Do I need to go on!!!

yep, I agree with a number of those things plus many more things you don't mention. and NO I am not BLINKERED.
I simply see the world differently from you and that does not give you or anyone else the right to think my critical thinking skills are inferior to yours.

[SusanDoris]

Are you really so blinkered as to fail to see how many, many people see Farage. In pretty well every respect he stands for everything I loathe - little Englander, backward looking, petty nationalism. And on a personal level he is clearly borderline racist, deeply misogynist, anti the equality agenda and clearly a control freak who can't stand anyone else having the limelight. He comes across as a bully and shows a clear lack of respect for those who have different views. Finally I cannot stand his carefully constructed attempt to appear as the 'man of the people' on the side of ordinary folk, when he is quite clearly entirely the reverse - in others a figure of the extreme establishment elite and with a reactionary right wing agenda that would benefit people like him at the expense of ordinary folk.

Do I need to go on!!!

Excellent post!!!

[Walter]

Excellent post!!!

only if you agree with him !

[Harrowby Hall]

SusanDoris on Today at 12:52:32 PM
Excellent post!!!

only if you agree with him !

No, it is an excellent quote because it replies succinctly to a question you asked. That it contains a view with which you do not agree, does not reduce its quality.