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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #450 on: January 16, 2017, 05:16:13 PM »
Quote from: BeRational on January 16, 2017, 02:22:38 PM
I like the idea of eternal life.

I am all for it.

Why?
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #451 on: January 16, 2017, 05:17:33 PM »
Quote from: Floo on January 16, 2017, 05:16:13 PM
Why?

I like being alive.

Don't you?
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #452 on: January 16, 2017, 05:24:13 PM »
Quote from: BeRational on January 16, 2017, 05:17:33 PM
I like being alive.

Don't you?

I wouldn't like to be alive for all eternity, that would be awful, imo! This life is enough for me.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #453 on: January 16, 2017, 05:34:15 PM »
Quote from: Floo on January 16, 2017, 05:24:13 PM
I wouldn't like to be alive for all eternity, that would be awful, imo! This life is enough for me.

Each to their own.

I would like to keep doing what I like doing
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #454 on: January 16, 2017, 06:23:13 PM »
Quote from: BeRational on January 16, 2017, 05:34:15 PM
Each to their own.

I would like to keep doing what I like doing

But if an afterlife exists you can't assume you would be the same person you are in this life.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #455 on: January 16, 2017, 06:41:49 PM »
The 'life' Jesus offers us is better translated "Life in all its' fullness' than 'eternal life'.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #456 on: January 16, 2017, 10:14:02 PM »
Quote from: Floo on January 16, 2017, 06:23:13 PM
But if an afterlife exists you can't assume you would be the same person you are in this life.

I did not mention after life, I just said eternal life as it is now
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #457 on: January 16, 2017, 10:14:52 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on January 16, 2017, 06:41:49 PM
The 'life' Jesus offers us is better translated "Life in all its' fullness' than 'eternal life'.

Is this conditionally offers?
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #458 on: January 16, 2017, 11:24:17 PM »
Quote from: Outrider on January 16, 2017, 01:18:52 PM
Tellingly, though, you want to write the laws so that people who don't sign up to the Christian church are also obliged to follow its tenets.

e.g. http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=12928.msg653816#msg653816
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #459 on: January 17, 2017, 08:08:04 AM »
Quote from: Anchorman on January 16, 2017, 06:41:49 PM
The 'life' Jesus offers us is better translated "Life in all its' fullness' than 'eternal life'.

Yes, that would make more sense.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #460 on: January 17, 2017, 08:34:45 AM »
Quote from: BeRational on January 16, 2017, 10:14:02 PM
I did not mention after life, I just said eternal life as it is now

That would be awful, imo.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #461 on: January 17, 2017, 09:52:53 AM »
Quote from: Floo on January 17, 2017, 08:34:45 AM
That would be awful, imo.

Then you must be a little odd.

Do you want to live today and tomorrow?

I just want tomorrow forever.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #462 on: January 17, 2017, 10:13:50 AM »
Quote from: BeRational on January 17, 2017, 09:52:53 AM
Then you must be a little odd.

Do you want to live today and tomorrow?

I just want tomorrow forever.

You might now, but not later eg. with a disintegrating body and mind.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #463 on: January 17, 2017, 10:22:42 AM »
Quote from: Udayana on January 17, 2017, 10:13:50 AM
You might now, but not later eg. with a disintegrating body and mind.

No I don't want that.

I want the same as I am now forever.

It it too much to ask?
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #464 on: January 17, 2017, 10:25:31 AM »
Quote from: BeRational on January 17, 2017, 09:52:53 AM
Then you must be a little odd.

Do you want to live today and tomorrow?

I just want tomorrow forever.

I want to go on for a while longer, but certainly not forever.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #465 on: January 17, 2017, 10:28:12 AM »
Quote from: Floo on January 17, 2017, 10:25:31 AM
I want to go on for a while longer, but certainly not forever.

Ok.

I would want to go on as I am now forever.

I bet most people would feel that way.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #466 on: January 17, 2017, 10:29:07 AM »
Quote from: BeRational on January 17, 2017, 10:22:42 AM
No I don't want that.

I want the same as I am now forever.

It it too much to ask?

That doesn't seem to be on offer.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #467 on: January 17, 2017, 10:29:55 AM »
Quote from: Udayana on January 17, 2017, 10:29:07 AM
That doesn't seem to be on offer.

That's not my problem. I am just saying that it what I would like.

It's not going to happen, but it's still what I would like.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #468 on: January 17, 2017, 10:35:02 AM »
Quote from: BeRational on January 17, 2017, 10:28:12 AM
Ok.

I would want to go on as I am now forever.

I bet most people would feel that way.

Do they? Anyway this discussion is way off topic, so I will leave it there.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #469 on: January 17, 2017, 10:56:57 AM »
Quote from: BeRational on January 17, 2017, 10:29:55 AM
That's not my problem. I am just saying that it what I would like.

It's not going to happen, but it's still what I would like.

I want to keep changing and learning and growing as a person. I'd be bored staying like this forever. And I hate being bored more than anything.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #470 on: January 17, 2017, 11:47:46 AM »
Quote from: torridon on January 17, 2017, 08:08:04 AM
Yes, that would make more sense.
Agreed, except of course that the person called Jesus cannot "offer" anything, having died around 2,000 years ago.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #471 on: January 17, 2017, 11:58:01 AM »
Quote from: BeRational on January 17, 2017, 10:28:12 AM
Ok.

I would want to go on as I am now forever.

I bet most people would feel that way.

I bet they wouldn't.

A lot would depend on how they are now.

However, whatever we want, life as it is now is not going to go on forever and that has to be accepted.

What is important is to make the most of what we have in the here and now.

Rhiannon: I want to keep changing and learning and growing as a person. I'd be bored staying like this forever. And I hate being bored more than anything.

That sounds about right.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #472 on: January 17, 2017, 03:39:19 PM »
Quote from: Brownie on January 17, 2017, 11:58:01 AM
I bet they wouldn't.

A lot would depend on how they are now.

However, whatever we want, life as it is now is not going to go on forever and that has to be accepted.

What is important is to make the most of what we have in the here and now.

Rhiannon: I want to keep changing and learning and growing as a person. I'd be bored staying like this forever. And I hate being bored more than anything.

That sounds about right.

I bet most people would want to live forever in a healthy body never ageing or wearing out.

It cannot happen, but if you do not want to keep living, will you make the end of the week, and why bother.
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #473 on: January 17, 2017, 03:41:11 PM »
Quote from: BeRational on January 17, 2017, 03:39:19 PM
I bet most people would want to live forever in a healthy body never ageing or wearing out.

It cannot happen, but if you do not want to keep living, will you make the end of the week, and why bother.
And a big welcome to the false dichotomy!
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Re: Evangelical extremist?
« Reply #474 on: January 17, 2017, 03:42:22 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on January 17, 2017, 03:41:11 PM
And a big welcome to the false dichotomy!

no its not!

It is an unrealistic desire but a desire nonetheless
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