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Anchorman

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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2016, 01:16:59 PM »
No prob, Ippy. As a Scot, I'm sorry for foisting the Stewart rabble onto you lot when your Lizzie didn't manage to get up the duff. NS is right, though - there was never a Lizzie I of the UK, so whatever Lizzie Windsor is 'II' of, it isn't 'britain'.
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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #51 on: November 30, 2016, 07:24:37 PM »
Is there not now a convention where the 'highest ' regnal number will be taken? So the next James will be James VIII for example even though England has never had a James III through VII.
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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #52 on: November 30, 2016, 07:39:18 PM »
Quote from: Sebastian Toe on November 30, 2016, 07:24:37 PM
Is there not now a convention where the 'highest ' regnal number will be taken? So the next James will be James VIII for example even though England has never had a James III through VII.




That was invented by Churchill in 1952, Seb.....to try and cool the ire of certain individuals north of the border - such as 'Wendy Wood' and her bombing campaign - dubbed 'the most polite terrorist in history' - when she and fellow idiots bombed empty post boxes with "EIIR" on them.
Hence there's only "ER" up here.
Before Lizzie planted her posterior on the stone, the ' british' establishment couldn't care less about what other nations fellt - hence William III (Dutch Billy) was William II of Scots, then Edward definately not VII, etc.
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« Reply #53 on: November 30, 2016, 07:42:06 PM »

Seems like a reasonable compromise.
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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #54 on: November 30, 2016, 07:47:02 PM »
Why should there be any compromise? If James Stuart was James I of 'gret britain, then Billy the Dutchman should be William I,. Edward Saxe-Coburg Edward I, and Elizabeth Mountbatten Windsor should be Elizabeth I.
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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #55 on: November 30, 2016, 08:10:02 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on November 30, 2016, 01:16:59 PM
No prob, Ippy. As a Scot, I'm sorry for foisting the Stewart rabble onto you lot when your Lizzie didn't manage to get up the duff. NS is right, though - there was never a Lizzie I of the UK, so whatever Lizzie Windsor is 'II' of, it isn't 'britain'.

Love the sensitivity in your turn of phrase;  I love Phill the Greek and Betty really.

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« Reply #56 on: November 30, 2016, 09:48:43 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on November 30, 2016, 07:47:02 PM
Why should there be any compromise? If James Stuart was James I of 'gret britain, then Billy the Dutchman should be William I,. Edward Saxe-Coburg Edward I, and Elizabeth Mountbatten Windsor should be Elizabeth I.
Actually, James (6th of that name as far as Scotland is concerned) was the first of that name for England, as you well know, Jim.  'Gret Britain' didn't come into the picture until 170-odd years later.
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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #57 on: November 30, 2016, 10:16:44 PM »
'Jamie the saxt' made it well known that he wished to be known as King of Great Britain, Hope.
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« Reply #58 on: November 30, 2016, 10:20:40 PM »
Here's a link from Britannic to illustrate James Stuart's style of titles. https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-I-king-of-England-and-Scotland
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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #59 on: November 30, 2016, 10:27:57 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on November 30, 2016, 07:47:02 PM
Why should there be any compromise? If James Stuart was James I of 'gret britain, then Billy the Dutchman should be William I,. Edward Saxe-Coburg Edward I, and Elizabeth Mountbatten Windsor should be Elizabeth I.
Let's compromise and agree to disagree!
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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #60 on: November 30, 2016, 10:36:11 PM »
Agreed - where the royal wasters are concerned, anything goes! English history is daft.....it ignores King Louis, for starters 'cos he was politically inconvenient - whilst styling Longshanks Edward I - when the bloomin place had already had THREE Edwards before him! )Scotland, of course, similarly tried to gloss over the fact that we, too, had an Edward - Balliol - a puppet foisted on us by the auld enemy who was about twice as useless as Toom Tabard!
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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2016, 11:52:56 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on November 29, 2016, 06:09:59 PM
God put her there, Sass? Did the God - who is without error - have an off day when he planted Edward (not the) VII on the throne....the same llethario who had had more mistresses than I've had hot dinners....and invited them for a front row seat when the bishop put the bling on his bonce in the Abbey? The same king who was head of a church yet maintained a mistress till the day he snuffed it (That mistress being Camilla Parker wotsit's great great granny, by the way)? The God who is without error who put a coward like George V on the throne, who in an un-Christ like act refused the Soviet governments offer to have his own cousin, his wife and children as refugees, thus condemning them to death? And don't even start me on Edward VIII Either these were men put on an unelected position by men, or God had an off day. There is nothing of God in an unelected powerless rubber stamp of an anachronistic throwback.

So who is  worse Satan or any man in history?
You see how senseless and how far away from God and who he is, your thoughts are?
What about Saul and David.... do yourself a favour. Having shot yourself in the foot best to close your mouth before you put your foot in it.

My God knows the end from the beginning. Do you think he chose and made them do what they did? Why do all things work together for good with those who love God?

Who made you judge of men you have never even known or met?

Who made you judge of God?  Be quiet till you know whom you are talking about.
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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #62 on: December 09, 2016, 11:54:31 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on November 29, 2016, 06:33:16 PM
#24 Thanks for the cut-and- paste synopsis of the bilge that passes for a constitution in this disunited kingdom, Sass. As God gives me strength, I'll continue to treat it with the disrespect it deserves.

Jealousy is never good. But i SEE you have let yourself look stupid and even insulted the God who made us. How much can you get wrong in one thread?
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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #63 on: December 09, 2016, 11:55:12 PM »
Quote from: torridon on November 29, 2016, 06:45:21 PM
;D ;D

Ah, a mighty fine thing to see Jim flow

Fools seldom differ comes to mind...
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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #64 on: December 09, 2016, 11:56:31 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on November 29, 2016, 09:19:38 PM
Sotrry, I won't comment on individuals (Though, having met Chairlie a few times, I might.....) I reserve the right to pour scorn, ridicule and disdain on the unearned, unelected roles they claim, though.

You have not earned your right to represent God or Faith in Christ.
So I would watch out, God just might let everyone else know this too.
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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2016, 10:28:28 AM »
Quote from: Sassy on December 09, 2016, 11:54:31 PM
Jealousy is never good. But i SEE you have let yourself look stupid and even insulted the God who made us. How much can you get wrong in one thread?




Hmmmmm.....
I'll stick with the Covenanters, thanks.
Their slogan "We have no king, save Christ!" works for me.
It seemed to govern my ancestor, James Brown of Priesthill, as well.
He believed in a church and state free from royal interferance.
He was shot in front of his wife and children for adhering to Christ, rather than crown.
Google "the Christian Carrier"....it might help a tad.
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Re: Buck House renovations
« Reply #66 on: December 10, 2016, 12:17:14 PM »
.... or render to Caesar that which is Caesar's and render to God that which is God's.
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