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[Sebastian Toe]

That isn't the question you were asked which was 'Do you think you might be wrong?'

I really should read ahead more often!

[bluehillside Retd.]

Spoof,

Continuing my theme about being a believer and having been a non believer, certainly earlier on in my belief I had doubts but they have always found an answer or experience which comes down on the side of belief. The doubt about secular humanism has been irreversible.
Loss of faith and doubt in SH was a painful crisis and doubts as a believer have been painful although I don't seem to doubt God as being true I do sometimes doubt myself.
Until doubt is affective and an event then you are either taking your beliefs for granted or you don't care or you are still on the fence and have never experienced commitment which is a belief in itself.

So you've found some explanatory narratives that happen to make sense to you.

So to answer your last question I'm afraid I don't think I'm wrong.

Yes we know you don't, but the question concerned whether you allow for the possibility that you could be nonetheless.

Why so coy?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

That's answering a different question to that which I asked.

Why are you afraid?

What is it you are asking?
What is it I'm supposed to be frightened of.
As a former secular humanist I know talk is cheap, ignorance is a resort and all easily shrugged off because there is an intrinsic non commital modus about the whole thing.
With such a comforting crutch Christianity seems pretty alarming.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Spoof,

So you've found some explanatory narratives that happen to make sense to you.

Yes we know you don't, but the question concerned whether you allow for the possibility that you could be nonetheless.

Why so coy?

He asked if I think I'm wrong I don't and neither deep down do you.

[Nearly Sane]

He asked if I think I'm wrong I don't and neither deep down do you.

No, he didn't, he asked if you think you might be wrong. Could you be wrong - not do you think you are right!

[Nearly Sane]

What is it you are asking?
What is it I'm supposed to be frightened of.
As a former secular humanist I know talk is cheap, ignorance is a resort and all easily shrugged off because there is an intrinsic non commital modus about the whole thing.
With such a comforting crutch Christianity seems pretty alarming.

that would be you making a generalisation about people from your inclination to lying. It therefore means you think all Christians are liars.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vlad notice

Because of the high degree of mobbing and monstering by the atheist fraternity...I am putting myself on a seven day suspension.

A merry Christmas to all my readers.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

He asked if I think I'm wrong I don't and neither deep down do you.

No he didn't.

What he asked is whether you thought you might be.

 

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

Because of the high degree of mobbing and monstering by the atheist fraternity...I am putting myself on a seven day suspension.

There is no "mobbing and monstering" - only questions that you refuse to answer, and a degree of bewilderment at your relentless trolling.

[wigginhall]

That's a classic Vlad reversal.  He's the one who is trolling and misrepresenting people on a regular basis, but now he claims that he's being mobbed and monstered, as people object to his lying.   "Sir, I'm the victim here, because when I try to bully people, they don't like it.   Not fair."

[trippymonkey]

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Some here just can't take it, eh ?!!?

[bluehillside Retd.]

trippy,

Some here just can't take it, eh ?!!?

He's the one-armed butler of this mb: he can dish it out, but he can't take it.

(C. Tim Vine)

[Nearly Sane]

I think that's unfair on Vlad he does 'take it', and in general pretty well. I do wish he would stop lying though

[bluehillside Retd.]

NS,

I think that's unfair on Vlad. Heroes 'take it', and in general pretty well. I do wish he would stop lying though

Depends what you mean by "take it". He takes it in the sense that, say, whenever he's caught red-handed in a lie he just ignores it and carries on as if nothing had happened, often by posting another one. He often doesn't though take it when his efforts are rebutted - abuse tends to be used as a place marker for "I have no way of responding to that".

[SwordOfTheSpirit]

Vlad notice

Because of the high degree of mobbing and monstering by the atheist fraternity...I am putting myself on a seven day suspension.

A merry Christmas to all my readers.

Merry Christmas to you too.

[Sebastian Toe]

torridon,

Ok...imagine a situation where robots had sensory perceptions (cameras and sensors) with which they could sense only other metallic/plastic objects. They cannot sense biological organisms at all.  So...in their world they have only other robots, cars and things like that. No humans, animals etc....though all these organisms exist ......

What do they do when they bump into a tree? How do they move through a forest?

[Jack Knave]

What are your qualifications for asserting that the gap cannot be bridged? Considering the supposed 'gaps' that have been bridged over the centuries, I am very optimistic that others will be bridged in the future too.

Judging by your post you don't really grasp what I was saying.

The people dealing with the Neanderthal remains can not claim, or assert, that this is how a Neanderthal lived as a person; how they felt, what it was like to be a Neanderthal. Making such claims would be the height of arrogance. That gap can not be bridged, ever!

Likewise, we can look at the artefacts of the brain but never know exactly what it produces per se; what it is in-itself, and also what it doesn't produce as being part of the system that is the human being and their nature.