Objectivity & Subjectivity

[Walter]

Just out of interest,  was it A Matter of Life and Death?

NS
 ive just read the plot of that film and found myself in floods of tears.
So much for a hard hearted old curmudgeon eh!

[Nearly Sane]

NS
 ive just read the plot of that film and found myself in floods of tears.
So much for a hard hearted old curmudgeon eh!

It's one of my favourites

[Walter]

It's one of my favourites

I haven't seen it since about 1976 . I might buy myself a xmas present.

[Enki]

Walter,

I wasn't impressed with that so kept looking for a logical answer and I found it with a prof. Susan Greenwood (I might have her sir name wrong)

It could be you actually mean Dr. Susan Blackmore, who started out as a psychic believer, but as a result of her research and experiences became a skeptic.

[Walter]

Walter,

It could be you actually mean Dr. Susan Blackmore, who started out as a psychic believer, but as a result of her research and experiences became a skeptic.

nope, she's a proper medical prof not some nucking futter. no offence

[wigginhall]

It could be Susan Greenfield, who was a neurologist, I think.   Yes, Blackmore is quite well known in this field, as she originally went along with various psychic stuff, but then became very skeptical.    She is quite well known in Zen also, and is an atheist.

[Walter]

its actually susan greenfield , now baroness Greenfield  a scientist

[Walter]

It could be Susan Greenfield, who was a neurologist, I think.   Yes, Blackmore is quite well known in this field, as she originally went along with various psychic stuff, but then became very skeptical.    She is quite well known in Zen also, and is an atheist.

Zen , did he ever get his motorcycle fixed?

[Enki]

nope, she's a proper medical prof not some nucking futter. no offence

No offence taken.   It was just a suggestion, as Susan Blackmore's explanations seemed to fit what you said next.

[Walter]

No offence taken.   It was just a suggestion, as Susan Blackmore's explanations seemed to fit what you said next.

even nutters speak the truth sometimes. ill search her out and see what she says .

cheers nike

[Nearly Sane]

even nutters speak the truth sometimes. ill search her out and see what she says .

cheers nike

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Blackmore

[wigginhall]

Some interesting gossip where Blackmore criticizes Greenfield for being a lightweight.   I have heard plenty of people say the same, maybe just being bitchy, or hate Labour, dunno.  Greenfield had a big thing about the internet damaging young people's brains, but she was criticized as never having done research into it. 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/jan/12/susan-blackmore-royal-institution-science

My memory is that Blackmore is well respected for her stuff debunking parapsychology.   However, I am not up to speed on this stuff now, maybe others here are?

http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/Articles/si87.html

Forgot to mention her well-known book. 'Zen and the Art of Consciousness',  very nicely written.

[Walter]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Blackmore

there's your answer . Greenfield is a scientist,  Blackmore is a psychologist of sorts

[Walter]

Wiggs
re that last link
I stopped reading after a few sentences because it became obvious to me that she is trying to imply her faculty has some kind of equivalence to science . She is sadly mistaken.

quick, we have a programming situation here, we must re- set the parameters now, or we have wasted 15 years of work to set this probe on Mars. 
don't worry everyone , panic over  I've brought my friend with me today and she is a psychologist. if she cant  help with the physics  she is quite prepared to talk to anyone who feels upset.

oops

[wigginhall]

Wiggs
re that last link
I stopped reading after a few sentences because it became obvious to me that she is trying to imply her faculty has some kind of equivalence to science . She is sadly mistaken.

quick, we have a programming situation here, we must re- set the parameters now, or we have wasted 15 years of work to set this probe on Mars. 
don't worry everyone , panic over  I've brought my friend with me today and she is a psychologist. if she cant  help with the physics  she is quite prepared to talk to anyone who feels upset.

oops

Sorry, couldn't follow a word of that.   Blackmore is well known for debunking many claims in parapsychology, after initially being enthusiastic about it. 

[Walter]

Sorry, couldn't follow a word of that.   Blackmore is well known for debunking many claims in parapsychology, after initially being enthusiastic about it.

me neither
the meds kick in and out
seriously I use this forum while I wait for the next intervention , which I look forward to ,from our beloved NHS

[Walter]

only if you're interested
I am now experiencing the aftermath of being 'saved' . Sometimes I look at it like this . and sometimes...... I don't look

all the best

[Sebastian Toe]

The experience of a complete NDE (being medically dead)

Would that not be a DE though?