666

[Sebastian Toe]

Thanks Brownie...but please remember I write from inspiration and knowledge gleaned from Biblical instruction and give all credit to Jesus and his father...but remember...con men can say the same and be totally convincing until they've had all your money so always be guarded.

Never mind Nick. You always remind me of a con man - just not a very good one!

[NicholasMarks]

Never mind Nick. You always remind me of a con man - just not a very good one!

I'm so good Seb I can do it without making a single penny out of it...and truth is the by-word  of my conning. But, unfortunately, those that suffer from my cons are hopefully going to live forever whilst those who see through my con will have an eternity of regret.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Throughout history there have apocalyptic events, but so far we have survived them. Eventually the world will end of course, but nothing to do with any god or second coming, imo.

I think the point is is the drastic, global events of the biblical apocalypse is now mirrored in a secular humanist understanding of just what can go wrong.

Monbiot's 'apocalypse' is not a million miles of the biblical one including immensely powerful influential individuals and environmental disaster. Individual countries have experienced apocalyptic conditions but now it is global.

I notice though that you have moved from apocalypses being 'rubbish' to 'apocalyptic events all the time''.

[Sriram]

I believe  that 666 stands for the World Wide Web (WWW).  In numerology, the value for the letter W is 6.  So...maybe we all are working with the devil all the time.

[floo]

Are you getting your insight and inspiration from that philosophy and teaching encapsulated  by that number 666 Floo because if you aren't you are giving a good impression to the contrary.

Ehhhhhhhhhh?

[NicholasMarks]

I think the point is is the drastic, global events of the biblical apocalypse is now mirrored in a secular humanist understanding of just what can go wrong.

Monbiot's 'apocalypse' is not a million miles of the biblical one including immensely powerful influential individuals and environmental disaster. Individual countries have experienced apocalyptic conditions but now it is global.

I notice though that you have moved from apocalypses being 'rubbish' to 'apocalyptic events all the time''.

If we take our lead from the Holy Bible...we are warned accurately what will happen in the end times...but this is the beauty of that teaching...those who have lived according to righteous teaching have a protection built in for all possible events...even having our heads chopped off...This is how we know that resurrection is a true and reliable method for us too, if and when necessary.

It's all telling us that a righteous spirit is invaluable for any eventuality. Those that can't be bothered will have to content themselves with whatever happens but it is well known that some will be very hostile towards common decency...their trick is to wind people up into a raging hysteria where as Jesus wants to wind us down, even under extreme distress...because then he can work with us.

[floo]

If we take our lead from the Holy Bible...we are warned accurately what will happen in the end times...but this is the beauty of that teaching...those who have lived according to righteous teaching have a protection built in for all possible events...even having our heads chopped off...This is how we know that resurrection is a true and reliable method for us too, if and when necessary.

It's all telling us that a righteous spirit is invaluable for any eventuality. Those that can't be bothered will have to content themselves with whatever happens but it is well known that some will be very hostile towards common decency...their trick is to wind people up into a raging hysteria where as Jesus wants to wind us down, even under extreme distress...because then he can work with us.

But it could all be a con!

[Sebastian Toe]

I think the point is is the drastic, global events of the biblical apocalypse is now mirrored in a secular humanist understanding of just what can go wrong.

Monbiot's 'apocalypse' is not a million miles of the biblical one including immensely powerful influential individuals and environmental disaster. Individual countries have experienced apocalyptic conditions but now it is global.

I notice though that you have moved from apocalypses being 'rubbish' to 'apocalyptic events all the time''.

Have you been listening to Nick?
Obviously not!
If you had then you would know for a fact that the end is going to come with a passing star system/planet which will cause untold mayhem.
Please pay attention in future.

P.s. it is all going to happen 'soon' as we are the 'last generation'.

Unless you think that Nick is wrong. Do you?

[NicholasMarks]

Have you been listening to Nick?
Obviously not!
If you had then you would know for a fact that the end is going to come with a passing star system/planet which will cause untold mayhem.
Please pay attention in future.

P.s. it is all going to happen 'soon' as we are the 'last generation'.

Unless you think that Nick is wrong. Do you?

Your gift for sarcasm doesn't improve with age Seb...but even if I try to save you I might perhaps gain accreditation for myself, even knowing I will probably fail...you see...

The universe is made from an invisible, indestructible, superabundant energy and used in the correct way we can harness that energy for our own everlasting life.

Now, no one  knows  the hour or the day but there are signs and I am picking up on those signs...but...even if I am wrong you still need to harness that energy otherwise your health will likely fail...you will be easy pickings for every con merchant...and you will have booked a place where you would rather never be...It's up to you...not by reading what I write...

Not without comparing it against the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...anyway.

 
 

[Brownie]

Floo, you might like this.  I couldn't get the videos to play but I did read the text which sums up my theory about 666.
http://www.sciencealert.com/watch-the-secret-meaning-behind-the-devil-s-number-666

[floo]

Your gift for sarcasm doesn't improve with age Seb...but even if I try to save you I might perhaps gain accreditation for myself, even knowing I will probably fail...you see...

The universe is made from an invisible, indestructible, superabundant energy and used in the correct way we can harness that energy for our own everlasting life.

Now, no one  knows  the hour or the day but there are signs and I am picking up on those signs...but...even if I am wrong you still need to harness that energy otherwise your health will likely fail...you will be easy pickings for every con merchant...and you will have booked a place where you would rather never be...It's up to you...not by reading what I write...

Not without comparing it against the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...anyway.

 
 

I realise it is pointless asking you this question, but how do you know that what Jesus is supposed to have said was accurate, or even said by him? As it was written down years after he died a lot of spin could have been put on it. And before you say eye witnesses reported what he said, I will ask have you ever played Chinese whispers, when the sentence quoted at the end of the line is usually nothing like the original one?

[NicholasMarks]

But it could all be a con!

It helps when you have built a science that doesn't conflict with modern science and doesn't conflict with  the Holy Bible either...but it was hard work and  lets face it, it is you lot who are falling for all the con-artists who are ruining lives...yet people still can't see through them.

Their days are numbered.

[floo]

It helps when you have built a science that doesn't conflict with modern science and doesn't conflict with  the Holy Bible either...but it was hard work and  lets face it, it is you lot who are falling for all the con-artists who are ruining lives...yet people still can't see through them.

Their days are numbered.

Maybe you are the con-artist! Using the word science to describe your take on matters of faith is a con as it has nothing to do with real science. You state as fact things which make might sense to you, but in reality are without any evidence to support them.

[NicholasMarks]

Floo, you might like this.  I couldn't get the videos to play but I did read the text which sums up my theory about 666.
http://www.sciencealert.com/watch-the-secret-meaning-behind-the-devil-s-number-666

Thanks for that Brownie...very interesting and it all links up with what I am saying because the Roman Empire ruled by bullying...imagecraft...and that is the same philosophy I am talking about which has oppressed many people right up to this day and age and is now summoning all its adherents under the same shield which Jesus describes as the beast with the number 666.

[floo]

Thanks for that Brownie...very interesting and it all links up with what I am saying because the Roman Empire ruled by bullying...imagecraft...and that is the same philosophy I am talking about which has oppressed many people right up to this day and age and us now summoning all its adherents under the same shield which Jesus describes as the beast with the number 666.

Would you describe those who challenge your posts as being bullies? One could think you are the bully because you are always threatening those who don't see it your way with hell and damnation, without any evidence to support such a claim!

[NicholasMarks]

Maybe you are the con-artist! Using the word science to describe your take on matters of faith is a con as it has nothing to do with real science. You state as fact things which make might sense to you, but in reality are without any evidence to support them.

Here is my first con Floo...that the invisible things of God are seen by those things that are visible...so you now include Paul as a co-conspirator...except modern science is now beginning to realise the same thing...but I'm afraid Almighty God got there first.

What a con!!

[floo]

Here is my first con Floo...that the invisible things of God are seen by those things that are visible...so you now include Paul as a co-conspirator...except modern science is now beginning to realise the same thing...but I'm afraid Almighty God got there first.

What a con!!

Another assertion without evidence.  

[Anchorman]

A quote from a report: "The new fragment from the Book of Revelation, written in ancient Greek and dating from the late third century, is part of a hoard of previously unintelligible manuscripts discovered in historic dumps outside Oxyrhynchus in Egypt. Now a team of expert classicists, using new photographic  techniques, are finally deciphering the original writing."

Yep; part of a rich seam of third century and later papyri. This seems to have formed a library of a Gnostic sect, judging by the amount of very spurious documents found there - not that I necessarikly discount the 616 reference - I don't; but until we have several examples of the same number being used, I'd still be a little cautious. Mind you, Egypt's a great source for early material - in fact the earliest fragment of a Gospel which we now have can be found reused as cartonage (papier mache) on a coffin mask dating to around 90 AD. Not bad for recycling! http://www.livescience.com/49489-oldest-known-gospel-mummy-mask.html

[Anchorman]

Thanks for that Brownie...very interesting and it all links up with what I am saying because the Roman Empire ruled by bullying...imagecraft...and that is the same philosophy I am talking about which has oppressed many people right up to this day and age and is now summoning all its adherents under the same shield which Jesus describes as the beast with the number 666.

The Roman Empire, NM, was like every other empire in history. To say that it ruled by bullying would be simplistic in the extreme. Yes, provinces rebelled at times - just as they did in British or French Empire times - and, just as those powers did, the rebellions were brutally suppressed. That's what empires do, after all,. But for most provinces in first -third century Rome, the pax Romana meant relative stability, prosperity and peace in a world which was conspicuously lacking all three. I'm no apologist for Rome - far from it - but your statement was over-generallised and historically wrong.

[NicholasMarks]

The Roman Empire, NM, was like every other empire in history. To say that it ruled by bullying would be simplistic in the extreme. Yes, provinces rebelled at times - just as they did in British or French Empire times - and, just as those powers did, the rebellions were brutally suppressed. That's what empires do, after all,. But for most provinces in first -third century Rome, the pax Romana meant relative stability, prosperity and peace in a world which was conspicuously lacking all three. I'm no apologist for Rome - far from it - but your statement was over-generallised and historically wrong.

The Roman Empire might meet your criteria of a good system, Anchorman, but obviously not for those following Jesus Christ. You see...too many people following a teaching of caring and good order threatened the stability of the ones winding up the masses by fear and threats...the fear held all the people together feeding the wealth, privilege and domination that oppression thrives on.

The problem here is that oppression cripples thought, health, and good order, and Jesus wanted to tell those who were following righteousness that they could have another, righteous string, to their bow...a string that is attached to reality at one end and resurrection at the other...and the frequency that this string resonates at is health, repair, good order, and everlasting life...just by following Jesus Christ accurately.

 

[floo]

NM reality and you appear to be an oxymoron where matters of faith are concerned. I  wish you would post on some secular topics, it would be interesting to get your POV on them.

[NicholasMarks]

Another assertion without evidence.

Well...Floo...Paul felt certain of this fact to state it and state it knowing it could get him slaughtered because anyone showing and teaching righteousness were on the hit list.

This is how you can be certain of what the Holy Bible, especially the NT says because those who taught it were under severe threat, but,  even that threat is obviously less fearful than the continual, constant, never ending, fear, torment, and death that oppression thrives on...especially in knowing, by following Jesus, there is a wonderful way out...and for the most part it is geared by emotional, spiritual, and prayerful control.

[floo]

Well...Floo...Paul felt certain of this fact to state it and state it knowing it could get him slaughtered because anyone showing and teaching righteousness were on the hit list.

This is how you can be certain of what the Holy Bible, especially the NT says because those who taught it were under severe threat, but,  even that threat is obviously less fearful than the continual, constant, never ending, fear, torment, and death that oppression thrives on...especially in knowing, by following Jesus, there is a wonderful way out...and for the most part it is geared by emotional, spiritual, and prayerful control.

What Paul thought had no more veracity than what you think on the matters of faith, as he had no verifiable evidence either.

[ippy]

Well...Floo...Paul felt certain of this fact to state it and state it knowing it could get him slaughtered because anyone showing and teaching righteousness were on the hit list.

This is how you can be certain of what the Holy Bible, especially the NT says because those who taught it were under severe threat, but,  even that threat is obviously less fearful than the continual, constant, never ending, fear, torment, and death that oppression thrives on...especially in knowing, by following Jesus, there is a wonderful way out...and for the most part it is geared by emotional, spiritual, and prayerful control.

Nick, you have written this: 'Well...Floo...Paul felt certain of this fact'.

Please tell me how you have come to know how Paul felt about this fact, or any other kind of fact?

You can't have been there to ask him so how can you or anyone else possibly know for certain?

Try to answer without using the bible to prove the bible, you must know it would be silly to do so.

ippy   

[ekim]

Don't tell him Nicholas.  His name adds up to 66 and is therefore a little beast.