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NicholasMarks

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« Reply #100 on: December 05, 2016, 08:56:55 PM »
But Nick, you haven't told me how I would be tagged!

You are tagging yourself Seb...where as criminals are tagged with an obvious and visible tagging those who offend Jesus Christ will find that when the general population are finding health and repair from Jesus' accurate word some others will be left behind because they are unable to attach themselves to God's Living Waters...these wont be getting healthier and stronger and people who are, will say to themselves these are the ones who are tagged and will not be saved.


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« Reply #101 on: December 05, 2016, 09:03:00 PM »
You are tagging yourself Seb...where as criminals are tagged with an obvious and visible tagging those who offend Jesus Christ will find that when the general population are finding health and repair from Jesus' accurate word some others will be left behind because they are unable to attach themselves to God's Living Waters...these wont be getting healthier and stronger and people who are, will say to themselves these are the ones who are tagged and will not be saved.
But Nick. Where is the 666 that I will be tagged with? How will anyone know if they have been tagged or not?
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« Reply #102 on: December 05, 2016, 09:11:50 PM »
But Nick. Where is the 666 that I will be tagged with? How will anyone know if they have been tagged or not?

There is no need to answer that because it is a blatent expression saying you aren't reading just slagging. You see how I make the analogy of a bully and a cancer cell. Both are just kicking out wildly dragging the electrical stimulas from out of their target to support their own spiteful lifestyle without any concern what-so-ever for the emotions of those who might need a little spiritual kindness...like your own body cells or those mentioned in my last post to Floo who also doesn't mind inflicting her aggression on the weak or vulnerable who seek Jesus...even though she is on weak ground herself.


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« Reply #103 on: December 05, 2016, 09:56:48 PM »
There is no need to answer that because it is a blatent expression saying you aren't reading just slagging. You see how I make the analogy of a bully and a cancer cell. Both are just kicking out wildly dragging the electrical stimulas from out of their target to support their own spiteful lifestyle without any concern what-so-ever for the emotions of those who might need a little spiritual kindness...like your own body cells or those mentioned in my last post to Floo who also doesn't mind inflicting her aggression on the weak or vulnerable who seek Jesus...even though she is on weak ground herself.
You haven't answered directly as usual because you haven't worked out a weasel answer yet but I'm sure one will come "soon"!
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« Reply #104 on: December 06, 2016, 08:22:33 AM »
Of course I can help Seb...that's what I'm here for...Read the Gospels accurately and try to bring its meaning alive in your daily life and if you do it sincerely you will lift yourself from under the deceit of that number. Your spirit will get stronger and just like the morale induced by righteous thinking you will be saved...please mention this to ippy/Walter and Floo, whilst your at it.

NM considering how 'accurately' you read the Bible including a verse which wasn't there, I doubt anyone is going to take your daft advice in a hurry!
« Last Edit: December 06, 2016, 11:08:49 AM by Floo »

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« Reply #105 on: December 06, 2016, 10:27:59 AM »
Seb/ippy/Floo...

All I'm saying is that 666  encapsulates a certain mind-set and all you keep saying to me is...here I am...here I am. At least someone has tried to save you but the net is tightening...and the evidence suggests it will be soon.

You don't seem to be able to grasp that dark matter/God's dynamic energy/Jesus' living waters is all the same material...which effects everyone's life and offers so much for medical science but not for ridiculars, snarlers and  otherwise people listed in Revelation 21:8

Nick you quote nonsense for app 99%  of the time, and don't give straight answers, to more or less anything posters ask of you.

Don't you think your imaginary friend might take a dim view of these rather obvious failings of yours Nick?

I recon he she or it might find some way of making you repent, so you might need to watch out, just in case your imaginary friend does actually exist?

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« Reply #106 on: December 06, 2016, 11:05:14 AM »

ippy/Floo/Seb...

This is what I call an emotional tumour...when a number of like minded aggressively gang up to hit out at a less hysterical but seemingly easy victim. I don"t need to tell you how I reference this with bully's in the playground, bully's with swastika's on their tunics, or bully's inside a cluster of living cells.

What I do need to tell you though is that to get out of that emotional trap you must follow Jesus Christ, accurately as he taught it, spoke it, and lived it...thereby soothing and calming your aggression and your genetics and hopefully rejoin those who will be saved and go on to everlasting life.


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« Reply #107 on: December 06, 2016, 11:10:14 AM »
ippy/Floo/Seb...

This is what I call an emotional tumour...when a number of like minded aggressively gang up to hit out at a less hysterical but seemingly easy victim. I don"t need to tell you how I reference this with bully's in the playground, bully's with swastika's on their tunics, or bully's inside a cluster of living cells.

What I do need to tell you though is that to get out of that emotional trap you must follow Jesus Christ, accurately as he taught it, spoke it, and lived it...thereby soothing and calming your aggression and your genetics and hopefully rejoin those who will be saved and go on to everlasting life.

It is you who keep being aggressive by threatening us with silly nonsense, which is all in your mind!

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« Reply #108 on: December 06, 2016, 12:21:05 PM »
It is you who keep being aggressive by threatening us with silly nonsense, which is all in your mind!

As I've said before Floo...I will let you have the last word but not until I've said what needs to be said.

It is the Holy Bible that is making all the threats...I am simply interpreting them so that you clearly understand what you are playing with. I have given you all, deep and honest understanding using science and the Holy Bible as my spring-board...but...regardless of millions who over the generations have found great store in Jesus' words you want to ridicule and besmirch them. That's ok...the importance of taking Jesus at his accurate word is so that we are all aligned in a common thought which is that it is vital to link into and respect God's Living Water...which is written of in the NT and which will save those who respect Jesus Christ accurately.

Now I've said all that knowing you will just blitz through it and prepare an unpleasant kick-back and that isn't really how debate is supposed to work...is it??


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« Reply #109 on: December 06, 2016, 02:22:42 PM »
ippy/Floo/Seb...

This is what I call an emotional tumour...when a number of like minded aggressively gang up to hit out at a less hysterical but seemingly easy victim. I don"t need to tell you how I reference this with bully's in the playground, bully's with swastika's on their tunics, or bully's inside a cluster of living cells.

What I do need to tell you though is that to get out of that emotional trap you must follow Jesus Christ, accurately as he taught it, spoke it, and lived it...thereby soothing and calming your aggression and your genetics and hopefully rejoin those who will be saved and go on to everlasting life.

Nick, we know what you think and we've had enough sermons from you to last a lifetime, right now it's time for you to answer the question I have been asking you?

Now, remembering that it's senseless to use the bible to prove the bible, please share this elusive verifiable evidence that would prove that there is a he she or it figure that you call god?

It would be interesting to read all of the bits of evidence and how you have managed to use it to substantiate each piece of this evidence that you say would support these beliefs of yours?

An answer to the question asked would be very interesting Nick, no more sermons, please.

ippy 

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« Reply #110 on: December 06, 2016, 03:09:50 PM »
Responding to NM is a pointless exercise, ippy, he has his hands firmly over eyes and ears when it comes to other POVs, even that of other Christians. He appears to think he is some sort of prophet sent by his version of god to point out the error of our ways. Over the years I have come across several people of his ilk on forums, who believe themselves to have god given knowledge no one else has. However, NM surpasses all the others with his 'accurate dynamic electric' interpretation of the Bible, and threats of wormwood, that is really novel. ;D

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« Reply #111 on: December 06, 2016, 03:11:11 PM »
Nick, we know what you think and we've had enough sermons from you to last a lifetime, right now it's time for you to answer the question I have been asking you?

Now, remembering that it's senseless to use the bible to prove the bible, please share this elusive verifiable evidence that would prove that there is a he she or it figure that you call god?

It would be interesting to read all of the bits of evidence and how you have managed to use it to substantiate each piece of this evidence that you say would support these beliefs of yours?

An answer to the question asked would be very interesting Nick, no more sermons, please.

ippy

You've been answered many times ippy, in many different ways...but I'm not exhausted of trying to save you hoping that others...shyer people, might read and be guided to repent without going through this onslaught.

Almighty God exists because he told us so. He sent Jesus Christ who supported Almighty God to the hilt. Now, you might think you can by-pass the Holy Bible and receive the same...understanding...faith...health support...comfort...and hope for the future. Something that no one can achieve without direct knowledge of what is being Biblically spoken, but that's a bit like going to defend yourself in court without a barrister...you will just get lost in the jargon...and with your attitude probably executed for a parking fine.



 

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« Reply #112 on: December 06, 2016, 03:20:14 PM »

Almighty God exists because he told us so.

Brilliant case wonderfully put. I don't know how anyone could doubt the existence of God aftern that.

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« Reply #113 on: December 06, 2016, 03:23:50 PM »
Brilliant case wonderfully put. I don't know how anyone could doubt the existence of God aftern that.

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« Reply #114 on: December 06, 2016, 03:26:54 PM »
Brilliant case wonderfully put. I don't know how anyone could doubt the existence of God aftern that.

You missed the bit about Jesus supporting him to the hilt...Maeght. The Bible says that each bear witness to the other. What you are failing to see is that we are dealing with a very advanced civilization here and just a glance through key points tells us this.


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« Reply #115 on: December 06, 2016, 03:30:30 PM »
Responding to NM is a pointless exercise, ippy, he has his hands firmly over eyes and ears when it comes to other POVs, even that of other Christians. He appears to think he is some sort of prophet sent by his version of god to point out the error of our ways. Over the years I have come across several people of his ilk on forums, who believe themselves to have god given knowledge no one else has. However, NM surpasses all the others with his 'accurate dynamic electric' interpretation of the Bible, and threats of wormwood, that is really novel. ;D
It might help if you realise that 'dynamic energy' isn't a new concept. It's a deliberate fraud perpetrated by the Watchtower shower - in order to make the Bible read according to their ideas, rather than what the original language in which the texts were written actually says.
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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« Reply #116 on: December 06, 2016, 03:37:31 PM »
It might help if you realise that 'dynamic energy' isn't a new concept. It's a deliberate fraud perpetrated by the Watchtower shower - in order to make the Bible read according to their ideas, rather than what the original language in which the texts were written actually says.

Everyone can see, surely, that the energy that lives within an atom is a dynamic energy...a source of amazing properties which thousands of scientists explore and have delivered much knowledge from. Almighty God must be at the root of all this material and if we reduce it to its purest form we finish up with a material that is indeed dynamic, invisible, and superabundant, just as science says dark matter and dark energy is...and... just as Almighty God says in Isaiah..


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« Reply #117 on: December 06, 2016, 03:38:53 PM »
It might help if you realise that 'dynamic energy' isn't a new concept. It's a deliberate fraud perpetrated by the Watchtower shower - in order to make the Bible read according to their ideas, rather than what the original language in which the texts were written actually says.

Whilst one can be a bit amused by the silliness spouted by NM,  the JW mob have my utmost contempt. I never gave them a listening ear, but after a couple of their number told me, when my Down's syndrome son was a baby, he would have been better off dead than receiving the life saving blood transfusion he had just had, my dislike of them is intense! >:(

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« Reply #118 on: December 06, 2016, 03:41:39 PM »
Everyone can see, surely, that the energy that lives within an atom is a dynamic energy...a source of amazing properties which thousands of scientists explore and have delivered much knowledge from. Almighty God must be at the root of all this material and if we reduce it to its purest form we finish up with a material that is indeed dynamic, invisible, and superabundant, just as science says dark matter and dark energy is...and... just as Almighty God says in Isaiah..




Ah!
You must mean that bit in the NWT where the Watchrtower deliberately skews Scrioture to suit their theology, NM?
Here's a simplistic version of why they deliberately lied about it.
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-hebrew/2001-June/010945.html



Nowhere in Isaiah does 'dynamic energy' occur.
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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« Reply #119 on: December 06, 2016, 03:45:37 PM »

Ah!
You must mean that bit in the NWT where the Watchrtower deliberately skews Scrioture to suit their theology, NM?
Here's a simplistic version of why they deliberately lied about it.
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-hebrew/2001-June/010945.html



Nowhere in Isaiah does 'dynamic energy' occur.

I wonder if NM is a JW with a spin?

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« Reply #120 on: December 06, 2016, 03:48:20 PM »
Getting back to '666' (remember that?) If I were to accept some of the rubbish surrounding that number, I might - were I superstitious - include the corrupt New World Translation of the Bible....'coss '666' is part of the number of pages it contains..... http://www.bible.ca/Jw-NWT.htm Just saying....;)
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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« Reply #121 on: December 06, 2016, 03:49:57 PM »

Ah!
You must mean that bit in the NWT where the Watchrtower deliberately skews Scrioture to suit their theology, NM?
Here's a simplistic version of why they deliberately lied about it.
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-hebrew/2001-June/010945.html



Nowhere in Isaiah does 'dynamic energy' occur.

To me Anchorman...both examples are saying the same thing. I think I have given an adequate scientific explanation above and shown that in Isaiah Almighty God is referring to the same material and specifically says he made every star with his mighty power. It's all the other clues where this living water becomes alive to the Biblical student as being both useful to man as well as to the stars.




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« Reply #122 on: December 06, 2016, 03:52:33 PM »
To me Anchorman...both examples are saying the same thing. I think I have given an adequate scientific explanation above and shown that in Isaiah Almighty God is referring to the same material and specifically says he made every star with his mighty power. It's all the other clues where this living water becomes alive to the Biblical student as being both useful to man as well as to the stars.








Hang on: They may say that to you - but that is not what they say in Hebrew!
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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« Reply #123 on: December 06, 2016, 03:55:12 PM »
Getting back to '666' (remember that?) If I were to accept some of the rubbish surrounding that number, I might - were I superstitious - include the corrupt New World Translation of the Bible....'coss '666' is part of the number of pages it contains..... http://www.bible.ca/Jw-NWT.htm Just saying....;)

I did point out at the outset that it was an understanding that originated with me Anchorman. I thought it was quite clever...because Revelation is specifically pointing its finger at one group of people here...all God's enemies and as you might expect if everything tallies it might well be correct...Biblically speaking.


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« Reply #124 on: December 06, 2016, 04:00:56 PM »



Hang on: They may say that to you - but that is not what they say in Hebrew!

The Holy Bible tells us all one story, how Almighty God is the owner of the entire universe. He created it and he holds all knowledge about it. If we accept that written into God's teaching...which includes Jesus Christ's teaching...everything must resolve itself into a science...I have simply looked at things in that light and have found a unified truth in it all and 666 is a feature we shouldn't ignore.

The modern version of Biblical truth is still the truth even if it has a more scientific reasoning.