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[Sebastian Toe]

If Nick has said he is not a Jehovahs witness then why do you persist in making suggestions that appear you believe he is?

I certainly don't see Anchorman making those suggestions.
What I do see is him questioning Nick as to why he seems to be using the JW version of the bible to back up his 'accurate' teaching, when the NWT has some quite dodgy history.

[floo]

I certainly don't see Anchorman making those suggestions.
What I do see is him questioning Nick as to why he seems to be using the JW version of the bible to back up his 'accurate' teaching, when the NWT has some quite dodgy history.

Very dodgy. It is reasonable to suggest only people using that version of the Bible have  sympathy with the JW POV.

[Anchorman]

Sass: I make no suggestions that NM is a JW (Though he seems to admire their theology.) Yet again you are under a misconception.

[Walter]

I agree with Nick in what he says about following Jesus, but I have a problem with the constant use of words like accurately and righteous. I don't understand why he thinks this is necessary. There is also a big problem in that he says the end of the world is about to occur. Actually I at one point thought this because a good friend of mine, a lady in her 80s, told me that God had told her she would not die before Jesus came back. Not having access to much study material at the time - it was before the internet - I assumed this was true because she is a very truthful person. Whilst God may indeed have said this to her, it would contradict Jesus' teaching that no one knows the day, if she expected someone else to believe it. At the time though I was quite affected by it, and people probably thought I was a bit bonkers!

have you grown up now?, I used to believe in father christmas

[Sebastian Toe]

Very dodgy. It is reasonable to suggest only people using that version of the Bible have  sympathy with the JW POV.

Having sympathy with the ideals and actually belonging to the group are two completely different things floo.

[NicholasMarks]

All...

My interpretation is built from a simple understanding which can't really be argued against. Everything Biblical revolves around a wonderful spiritual condition which lies behind all universal knowledge which states clearly... Almighty God is the living voice of the entire superabundance of all the energy contained within all atoms and which built those atoms, whether in the form of stars or of galaxies or in the form of light or all electromagnetic activity. Not just the voice of all that energy but a living limb of all that energy...a state earned by putting righteousness above any other principle or understanding.

It also becomes easy to understand that it is this atomic behavior that gives birth to living cells and it is the same atomic behavior that gives health and happiness or illness and destruction as well. But as well as this it is the same set of laws which gives us the ability to harness this indestructible spiritual energy and develop it into a force with our name stamped upon it which can be resurrected...not because I say so but because Jesus Christ says so...but those who can't or wont follow his accurate teaching will find that the  science wont work because they have never made the right moves which make the science work.

Because the material that is behind all this energy is invisible, like Almighty God, many have decided it doesn't exist, but, like God, we will soon all realise that it is indisputable because science will soon have to concede this point...but stubbornness to accept it from Jesus Christ's own teaching might mean that some will leave it too late.

[ekim]

I used to believe in father christmas

Trust you to spoil my Christmas.  Anyway I saw him in a Department Store last year and he might be there again this year.

[NicholasMarks]

Having sympathy with the ideals and actually belonging to the group are two completely different things floo.

Many Jehovah's Witnesses are very righteous people...but God's Judgement will be the same for believers and non-believers...they will either be righteous or unrighteous...and Revelation 21:8 is clear about those who will be saved and those who wont be...Those that will be saved must certainly be those who are following Jesus, accurately, as he alone taught us and as he alone showed us...any deviation is iniquity.

[Maeght]

All...

My interpretation is built from a simple understanding .......

Not sure it is to be honest.

[NicholasMarks]

Not sure it is to be honest.

That the entire universe is made from a simple, invisible, indestructible, and superabundant dynamic energy written into the Holy Bible and which has always been and always will be.

Sounds simple to me.

[Walter]

That the entire universe is made from a simple, invisible, indestructible, and superabundant dynamic energy written into the Holy Bible and which has always been and always will be.

Sounds simple to me.

simple.
now there's a word

[ippy]

Many Jehovah's Witnesses are very righteous people...but God's Judgement will be the same for believers and non-believers...they will either be righteous or unrighteous...and Revelation 21:8 is clear about those who will be saved and those who wont be...Those that will be saved must certainly be those who are following Jesus, accurately, as he alone taught us and as he alone showed us...any deviation is iniquity.

Clear about who they think will be saved and equally clear about who they think wont be, as though this nonsense had anything to do with reality, however don't worry yourself to much about it, I wont.

ippy

[Anchorman]

All...

My interpretation is built from a simple understanding which can't really be argued against.
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Eh?
Every aspect of faith can be disputed.
Your premis is simply wrong - and I write as a committed Christian.
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It also becomes easy to understand that it is this atomic behavior that gives birth to living cells and it is the same atomic behavior that gives health and happiness or illness and destruction as well. But as well as this it is the same set of laws which gives us the ability to harness this indestructible spiritual energy and develop it into a force with our name stamped upon it which can be resurrected...not because I say so but because Jesus Christ says so...but those who can't or wont follow his accurate teaching will find that the  science wont work because they have never made the right moves which make the science work.

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Not one bit of either Biblical - or indeed scientific understanding there, I'm afraid.
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Because the material that is behind all this energy is invisible, like Almighty God, many have decided it doesn't exist, but, like God, we will soon all realise that it is indisputable because science will soon have to concede this point...but stubbornness to accept it from Jesus Christ's own teaching might mean that some will leave it too late.
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Mainstream Christians DO, in fact, accept that God became visible - Incarnate in Christ.
As Paul wrote to the Collosians: "Christ is the visible likeness of the invisible God".
And as John wrote:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.........and the Word became human and lived among us, and we saw His glory...."

[NicholasMarks]

You do like to contradict Jesus, Anchorman...


John 1:18
No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
 
John 4:12
No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

John 6:46
No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father.

The Holy Bible cannot be disputed when we realise that the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ is giving us access to God's Living Waters and refusal to take it on board is the reason our genetics are screaming out for help...Do you think Almighty God or Jesus are responsible for all the illness and ailments that the world is suffering from or is it our disobedience to genetic truth??

God's science of righteousness as accurately delivered to us by Jesus Christ says it is the latter. He says he is the way, the truth and the life and righteous science substantiates this.

 

[Sassy]

I certainly don't see Anchorman making those suggestions.
What I do see is him questioning Nick as to why he seems to be using the JW version of the bible to back up his 'accurate' teaching, when the NWT has some quite dodgy history.

Tell us what those teachings are and how you can say they are are JW.
The truth is that you personally do not see any such thing because you personally know nothing about JW teachings. So you cannot in anyway support Anchorman.
If Anchorman is not in anyway resorting to use that information you assume to be right.
What purpose does it serve if not to make others think Nick is a JW?

I know Nick has been questioned before on this matter so others here know he is not a JW.
But he does have information regarding teachings from most religions.

However, saying that, you don't have the information to know or support Anchormans posts.

[Sebastian Toe]

Tell us what those teachings are and how you can say they are are JW.
The truth is that you personally do not see any such thing because you personally know nothing about JW teachings. So you cannot in anyway support Anchorman.
If Anchorman is not in anyway resorting to use that information you assume to be right.
What purpose does it serve if not to make others think Nick is a JW?

I know Nick has been questioned before on this matter so others here know he is not a JW.
But he does have information regarding teachings from most religions.

However, saying that, you don't have the information to know or support Anchormans posts.

Get your head out of your arse.
I know enough about JW teachings to make an informed opinion.
I also know that Nick is not a JW, and I have known that for many years, since the BBC board days.
I can support Anchorman if I fucking well want.
Nobody,  especially a supercilious windbag is going to tell me different.

Have a pleasant evening.

[Sassy]

Get your head out of your arse.

Does the truth really annoy you that much that you believe making such a comment hides it?
If you must be annoyed then surely it is with yourself for making comments you haven't the knowledge to support.

I know enough about JW teachings to make an informed opinion.

If you did, you would have provided the teachings Anchorman is referring to as you were asked and explained them.

I also know that Nick is not a JW, and I have known that for many years, since the BBC board days.

So why get involved at all. Why not just make a statement to that fact.
Saying Anchorman you are barking up the wrong tree.

I can support Anchorman if I fucking well want.

You did support Anchorman, the fact was you did not have the knowledge about JW's to support your support.

Nobody,  especially a supercilious windbag is going to tell me different.

Your slip is showing. I really have no interest in playground bully tactics and when it comes to JW's and Christianity I can eat you up for breakfast and spit you back out and still know more than you will ever know in your present atheist state.
My mother became a JW for a time when a child she soon left.

Have a pleasant evening.

Just an Evening, I get the pleasant whole day because I am sure about the person I trust in and the fact you don't have the knowledge to support Anchorman regarding this matter.

Hope you start studying now.

[Aruntraveller]

I really have no interest in playground bully tactics and when it comes to JW's and Christianity I can eat you up for breakfast and spit you back out and still know more than you will ever know in your present atheist state.

No irony involved at all.

[Sebastian Toe]

Does the truth really annoy you that much that you believe making such a comment hides it?
If you must be annoyed then surely it is with yourself for making comments you haven't the knowledge to support.

I'm not annoyed. I dont get annoyed.

I see that you have not acceded to my request and until you do I will be happy in the knowledge that you are talking from that orifice and your brown spoutings will just be that - a pile of keech.

[Sassy]

I'm not annoyed. I dont get annoyed.

I see that you have not acceded to my request and until you do I will be happy in the knowledge that you are talking from that orifice and your brown spoutings will just be that - a pile of keech.

My goodness how churlish and childish.

[Sebastian Toe]

My goodness how churlish and childish.

A statement that would cover your original reply. Thank you.

[Hope]

In Revelation we are told of the number of the beast…being, 666. It is the number of a man, ...

NM, I think you need to remember that 666 is not the number of a man; its the number of man(kind), according to the system of numerology that Jewish literature used/uses a lot.  (I'll do a bit of research to see whethern there are any 7:77 or 77:7 references that suggest that God is evil)

[Anchorman]

There are, of course, umpteen interpretations of John's Revelation, and speculation over '666'. Here's a reasonable precis of the book, which, in passing, suggests that the number is simply a rendering of Nero Ceasar in a way which would be understood by Greek speaking Jewish converts, but remain baffling to everyone else -including the Romans. http://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_Revelation.htm

[NicholasMarks]

All...

Been out all day and missed most of this. It is a bit of a learning curve for us though...that is if we are interested in how our electric/spiritual nature works...because those who are tagged by the number 666 certainly know how to inflict emotional damage so it's only fair that the innocent/naive/righteous/bullied/oppressed/down-trodden...know as well.

Sassy makes a valid point that to argue against the Holy Bible you must first know what's in it. Seb comes back with some very hurtful remarks....intended to penetrate her emotions and hurt deeply...fortunately Sassy is working from a more righteous stand-point and able to let it fly over her head...but what if she wasn't?? What if these sort of words cut deeply and what if a tirade of insults occurred one after the other??...then we can easily see a type of bullying taking place which could do much harm. This is replicated by those with the number 666. They drain the healthier electric strength from their victims leaving them drained of all emotional strength and unable to defend themselves.

Well...it isn't a big step away to see that if we are draining our own inner strength, wasting it by way of excessive nervous expression so that our body cells become starved of this nervous nutrition as well it will cause starved body cells to kick out wildly in a state of genetic shock then a cancer cell can quickly develop whose genetic patterning goes wild, replicating wildly as well.

Best to stay calm...turn the other cheek...go the extra mile and thereby keep our genetic health on an even keel. This is what Jesus Christ tell's us anyway...in all cases of bullying...even where 666 is concerned.

[Sebastian Toe]

 Seb comes back with some very hurtful remarks....intended to penetrate her emotions and hurt deeply..

No they are not and no they were not.
I am very hurt by your untruthful remarks Nick.
That means that you are tagged with 666 then doesn't it Nick?
It seems that you certainly know how to inflict emotional damage Nick, does that make you one of those 666 bullies?