So SNP were spinning on austerity

[jakswan]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38315612

Thought so.

[jeremyp]

I love the way they dare not change income tax too much except to take a pop at rich people.

[Walter]

I love the way they dare not change income tax too much except to take a pop at rich people.

If that yapping little Nicola Krankie wants independence and become QUEEN OF SCOTLAND
I  for one will not get in her way.

[Anchorman]

You realise Jeanette Krankie is a Tory, a unionist and anti SNP? Therefore your nickname for the SNP leader is simply misguided. I first met her when we were campaigning in Dreghorn, Irvine in the mid '90's, when we knew we hadn't a hope. She was a teenage firebrand then - and she's still a firebrand now!

[Walter]

You realise Jeanette Krankie is a Tory, a unionist and anti SNP? Therefore your nickname for the SNP leader is simply misguided. I first met her when we were campaigning in Dreghorn, Irvine in the mid '90's, when we knew we hadn't a hope. She was a teenage firebrand then - and she's still a firebrand now!

Jesus,
I wasn't talking about JEANETTE , I was having a humorous  mental picture of JIMMIE KRANKIE as Nicola Fishperson 
Also it was not an invitation for you to tell us all about your sanctimonious efforts as a supporter of the conservative party as if it were something to be proud of .
As far as I am concerned in light of what I have recently learnt of you , your judgment requires no more respect than that of a three year old.

 And you were an adult canvassing grownups . We are in trouble .
Stay at home in future 

[jakswan]

If that yapping little Nicola Krankie wants independence and become QUEEN OF SCOTLAND
I  for one will not get in her way.

You have to give her credit wittering on about "Tory austerity" for years and when she gets powers to end austerity just carries on with tory tax rates. A good politician,  what about your schools Nicola they ain't exactly "fan dabby dozy", what is that you want to talk about indyref2, nice deflection.

[Walter]

You have to give her credit wittering on about "Tory austerity" for years and when she gets powers to end austerity just carries on with tory tax rates. A good politician,  what about your schools Nicola they ain't exactly "fan dabby dozy", what is that you want to talk about indyref2, nice deflection.

as far as I can see she is simply a yapping woman insistent on getting what she wants by just  keeping yapping
and yes I would say the same if it were a bloke.

however if I were her bloke I would have fucked off years ago

[Nearly Sane]

as far as I can see she is simply a yapping woman insistent on getting what she wants by just  keeping yapping
and yes I would say the same if it were a bloke.

however if I were her bloke I would have fucked off years ago

if there are an infinite number of parallel universes where everything   possible happens, you and Nicola would never be a couple

[Walter]

if there are an infinite number of parallel universes where everything   possible happens, you and Nicola would never be a couple

there is a god !

[Anchorman]

https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/ might explain why the very limited tax powers levered from the clutches of Wastemonster were not used, and why we need, at the very least, more devolution. Instead of a meagre 30% of tax being devolved, why not all tax revenue in Scotland. We will then pay London what we think they need - that means they'll get diddly squat for weapons of mass destruction in Scotland's waters for starters......

[Aruntraveller]

There is nothing like a bit of reasoned debate......and this is nothing like a bit of reasoned debate.

[jakswan]

https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/ might explain why the very limited tax powers levered from the clutches of Wastemonster were not used, and why we need, at the very least, more devolution. Instead of a meagre 30% of tax being devolved, why not all tax revenue in Scotland. We will then pay London what we think they need - that means they'll get diddly squat for weapons of mass destruction in Scotland's waters for starters......

I thought it would be the fault of Westminster, so predictable. 

I'd like this; rUk a vote on kicking Scotland out of the Union please.

[Nearly Sane]

I thought it would be the fault of Westminster, so predictable. 

rUk want a vote on kicking Scotland out of the Union please.

Do you want to try an argument against the points in the article?

[ProfessorDavey]

rUk want a vote on kicking Scotland out of the Union please.

Are you now the arbiter on what the rUK wants now Jakswan. Last time I looked you and I are both members of rUK, and I have no interest in such a vote. So you might want that vote, I don't and it is certainly not justified to claim the rUK does.

[jakswan]

Do you want to try an argument against the points in the article?

The excuses you mean? Not really its full of rhetoric and mad assertions. The fact is if the SNP want to end austerity they have the power to do so and have chosen not to. Scotland is inherently more left wing than rUK, so the SNP spin left their own centre right policies and when that looks like it is failing then place then play up the nationalistic fervour, apply a little more spin to blame not the English but Westminster.

[jakswan]

Are you now the arbiter on what the rUK wants now Jakswan. Last time I looked you and I are both members of rUK, and I have no interest in such a vote. So you might want that vote, I don't and it is certainly not justified to claim the rUK does.

Fixed it.

[ProfessorDavey]

Fixed it.

So you want a referendum in just England, Wales and NI on whether Scotland should remain part of the UK, despite the fact that a couple of years ago Scotland voted to remain in the UK. So what should happen were there to be this referendum and the rUK voted for Scotland to leave.

[jeremyp]

https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/ might explain why the very limited tax powers levered from the clutches of Wastemonster were not used, and why we need, at the very least, more devolution. Instead of a meagre 30% of tax being devolved, why not all tax revenue in Scotland. We will then pay London what we think they need - that means they'll get diddly squat for weapons of mass destruction in Scotland's waters for starters......

Except they were used: to stick one on rich people - always popular with the masses.

[jeremyp]

that means they'll get diddly squat for weapons of mass destruction in Scotland's waters for starters......

Faslane provides economic support to a lot of Scots in the area. Scotlands shityards also benefit greatly from the government's Buy British policy when it comes to warships. They would no longer exist if the government set out to get the best ships at the best price.

Don't knock it.

[Walter]

Faslane provides economic support to a lot of Scots in the area. Scotlands shityards also benefit greatly from the government's Buy British policy when it comes to warships. They would no longer exist if the government set out to get the best ships at the best price.

Don't knock it.

Life In The Faslane .........didn't see the stop sign and took a turn for the worse .

[Anchorman]

Faslane provides economic support to a lot of Scots in the area. Scotlands shityards also benefit greatly from the government's Buy British policy when it comes to warships. They would no longer exist if the government set out to get the best ships at the best price.

Don't knock it.

Is that why Scottish Labour (with the exception of Jackie Baillie), the Scottish Greens, the SNP and two of the three Scottish Lib Dems voted (twice) against it?

[Hope]

https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/ might explain why the very limited tax powers levered from the clutches of Wastemonster were not used, and why we need, at the very least, more devolution. Instead of a meagre 30% of tax being devolved, why not all tax revenue in Scotland. We will then pay London what we think they need - that means they'll get diddly squat for weapons of mass destruction in Scotland's waters for starters......

Sounds a good idea - so the rest of the UK needn't provide any money under the Barnett Formula.

[jakswan]

So you want a referendum in just England, Wales and NI on whether Scotland should remain part of the UK, despite the fact that a couple of years ago Scotland voted to remain in the UK. So what should happen were there to be this referendum and the rUK voted for Scotland to leave.

Kick them out!

[ProfessorDavey]

Kick them out!

Against their consent, when the people people of Scotland had voted to remain in the UK - doesn't sound very democratic to me.

[Hope]

So you want a referendum in just England, Wales and NI on whether Scotland should remain part of the UK, despite the fact that a couple of years ago Scotland voted to remain in the UK. So what should happen were there to be this referendum and the rUK voted for Scotland to leave.

We had a UK-wide 'EU' referendum; we ought to have a UK-wide 'Scottish independence' referendum.  Have to say that I have no idea what the outcome would be.