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Re: Russian ambassador assassinated
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2016, 11:37:49 AM »
Maybe you'll advocate the fall of the UK state next time MI6 knocks someone off.
Well I certainly won't be volunteering to help them murder people. You, on the other hand, would just be a good German and ignore the murders   

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« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2016, 11:52:33 AM »
Well I certainly won't be volunteering to help them murder people. You, on the other hand, would just be a good German and ignore the murders

Of course, ISIS is better. That's exactly what the US and Israel think too.
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« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2016, 11:55:10 AM »
Of course, ISIS is better. That's exactly what the US and Israel think too.
no, that's a false dichotomy. Those fleeing don't have to support either of the 2 repulsive options, it's one of the reasons to flee.

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« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2016, 12:22:00 PM »
I'd be speaking Russian if it wasn't for Kareluan Finns standing their ground an fighting for their homes. I have no respect for those men of fighting age running away. We shouldn't have to pay for it with terrorists and rapists. Let them go to America.
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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2016, 12:28:33 PM »
I'd be speaking Russian if it wasn't for Kareluan Finns standing their ground an fighting for their homes. I have no respect for those men of fighting age running away. We shouldn't have to pay for it with terrorists and rapists. Let them go to America.
false equivalence, and back to your lazy incorrect generalisation and support for a dictator

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« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2016, 12:43:03 PM »
Just follow the fucking news.
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« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2016, 12:48:27 PM »
Just follow the fucking news.
How is that a reply to your use of false equivalence and support for a murdering dictator?

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« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2016, 01:50:42 PM »
How is that a reply to your use of false equivalence and support for a murdering dictator?

Now you're being deliberately stupid. As for Assad, I never said I liked him. All I said was that he gave Syrians peace.
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« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2016, 02:09:02 PM »
Now you're being deliberately stupid. As for Assad, I never said I liked him. All I said was that he gave Syrians peace.
Didn't say you did like him, just that he's a murdering dictator that you think people should fight for. And no I don't see where following the fucking news will help with you making a false equivalence.

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« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2016, 05:47:29 PM »
Now you're being deliberately stupid. As for Assad, I never said I liked him. All I said was that he gave Syrians peace.
some people will continue to bury their sensitive little liberal heads in the sand until such time someone creeps round behind them and sticks a cracker up their arse.
Then it will be 'forgive them for they know not what they do'

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« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2016, 05:55:29 PM »
some people will continue to bury their sensitive little liberal heads in the sand until such time someone creeps round behind them and sticks a cracker up their arse.
Then it will be 'forgive them for they know not what they do'
So you want people to fight for a murderous dictator as well?

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« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2016, 05:57:41 PM »
I notice all the people standing at the back, shouting 'forward'.   By gum, brave lot.
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« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2016, 06:02:25 PM »
We now have instant and 24 hour media dedicated to spreading the news as widely as possible, is it any wonder we feel threatened and at risk almost constantly.

Perspective, now more than ever is needed. Whether we achieve that is up to us.
BBC Breakfast are during a week-long series on the reality of crime and the perception of crime.  This morning, the item pointed out that statistically, younger people are more likely to be victims of crime than older people, yet the former seem to have no fear of crime, whilst the latter do.  The Chief Constable of the Durham force (iirc) pointed out that the false perception regarding the prevalence of crime is often fuelled by the activity of social media.
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« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2016, 06:49:56 PM »
So you want people to fight for a murderous dictator as well?
are all your switches in the on position today?

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« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2016, 07:02:18 PM »
I notice all the people standing at the back, shouting 'forward'.   By gum, brave lot.

But Syria isn't our country.
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« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2016, 07:37:43 AM »
are all your switches in the on position today?
Do you have a switch that says people should fight for a murdering dictator? How quaint!

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« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2016, 09:15:53 AM »
Do you have a switch that says people should fight for a murdering dictator? How quaint!
what the hell are you on about ? Are we at crossed purposes here?

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« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2016, 09:17:43 AM »
what the hell are you on about ? Are we at crossed purposes here?
Ad O has been arguing that people should fight for Assad,you seemed to agree with him.

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« Reply #43 on: December 21, 2016, 09:44:39 AM »
Ad O has been arguing that people should fight for Assad,you seemed to agree with him.
thanks , I must have missed that somehow . I have been travelling over the last 24 hours

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« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2016, 10:55:36 AM »
Eh? Why are they not fighting? They come here instead, sexually assault women and commit terrorist acts in their idleness.

All of them???  Or one or two out of thousands???
Blimey, what generalisations.

No doubt there are murderers and rapists amongst the amount of Brits who emigrate to other countries.  Finns too?

I don't know what it's like in Finland but here, the majority of people who come here to settle like it, assimilate and moan about the weather.
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« Reply #45 on: December 21, 2016, 12:06:36 PM »
Good stuff, Brownie.  I think some of the right wing sound like IS, lots of generalizations, and 'they' talk.   You have to have an enemy, and hello, you have a mirror image.
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« Reply #46 on: December 21, 2016, 01:38:18 PM »
All of them???  Or one or two out of thousands???
Blimey, what generalisations.

No doubt there are murderers and rapists amongst the amount of Brits who emigrate to other countries.  Finns too?

I don't know what it's like in Finland but here, the majority of people who come here to settle like it, assimilate and moan about the weather.

Over here they sponge of the state, hang around railway stations putting their benefits in fruit machines and ogling teenage girls.
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Re: Russian ambassador assassinated
« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2016, 01:57:52 PM »
Other generalizations are available, bespoke if required.
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Re: Russian ambassador assassinated
« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2016, 02:08:03 PM »
Over here they sponge of the state, hang around railway stations putting their benefits in fruit machines and ogling teenage girls.

Sound like Nigel Farage supporters to me.
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Re: Russian ambassador assassinated
« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2016, 02:14:57 PM »
Over here they sponge of the state, hang around railway stations putting their benefits in fruit machines and ogling teenage girls.

Very Jeremy Kyle and Benefits Street.  Ours wear Burberry and have fierce dogs.
What Trent said.

BBC Breakfast are during a week-long series on the reality of crime and the perception of crime.  This morning, the item pointed out that statistically, younger people are more likely to be victims of crime than older people, yet the former seem to have no fear of crime, whilst the latter do.  The Chief Constable of the Durham force (iirc) pointed out that the false perception regarding the prevalence of crime is often fuelled by the activity of social media.

Hope, it seemed as if your post was buried!  I take the Chief Constable's point about social media.

I haven't seen any of that on Breakfast (probably not up early enough), but I can imagine it for all sorts of reasons.

Young people are less fearful than older ones, generally.   Things don't seem quite real unless they actually happen to them.   When something does happen which scares them witless, their attitude changes dramatically.   I was the same, expect you were too.
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