Christian 'Mythology'.

[trippymonkey]

Dunno about YOU lot but after having read many of these last posts, it seems to ME, at least, that ALIENS DID IT !!?!?!? MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nick

[floo]

But Floo, if God created the laws of nature it is in his purview to tweak them every now and then.
Is there any reason why we should believe science to be any truer, Floo.  After all, the evidence to prove science is scientific research - a less than satisfactory combination of factors - even for the staunchest scientist.

It is highly unlikely the god of the Bible, who reads like a bad fairy tale, had anything to do with creating the universe!

[ippy]

It is highly unlikely the god of the Bible, who reads like a bad fairy tale, had anything to do with creating the universe!

Floo I'm reading a book by A C Grayling he mentions to try substituting Fred for god when reading theogy stuff, I'll just say try it and I'll leave the rest to you.

ippy

 

[torridon]

But Floo, if God created the laws of nature it is in his purview to tweak them every now and then.

Self contradiction.  Humans might tweak their creations in order to get them right.  A god however would not need to do this, because he is god, he would get things right in the first place.

[floo]

Self contradiction.  Humans might tweak their creations in order to get them right.  A god however would not need to do this, because he is god, he would get things right in the first place.

Not unless it is as good at screw ups as the Biblical god appears to be!

[Sebastian Toe]

But Floo, if God created the laws of nature it is in his purview to tweak them every now and then.

.......has he done any of that tweaking that you know of?

[jeremyp]

But Floo, if God created the laws of nature it is in his purview to tweak them every now and then.
Is there any reason why we should believe science to be any truer, Floo. 

Yes.

Science has been tested to see if it fits the real World.

End of story.

After all, the evidence to prove science is scientific research - a less than satisfactory combination of factors - even for the staunchest scientist.

Why is checking if things match the real world less than satisfactory? Is it because the Bible not being true would make you cry?

[Walter]

Yes.

Science has been tested to see if it fits the real World.

End of story.

Why is checking if things match the real world less than satisfactory? Is it because the Bible not being true would make you cry?

It really puzzles me why some people cannot understand this.
why do you think this is ,jeremyp?

[NicholasMarks]

All...

Science doesn't take into account the raw material that created all mass and all science controlling that mass...yet it is the essence behind all Biblical teaching. Obviously special teaching is required to bring that science alive and I know that it's all contained within the Gospels. With the worst possible Biblical scenario breathing down our necks it might be wise to refresh ourselves on our Biblical knowledge because it seems it is our only salvation...but that is up to each individual.

 

[Walter]

All...

Science doesn't take into account the raw material that created all mass and all science controlling that mass...yet it is the essence behind all Biblical teaching. Obviously special teaching is required to bring that science alive and I know that it's all contained within the Gospels. With the worst possible Biblical scenario breathing down our necks it might be wise to refresh ourselves on our Biblical knowledge because it seems it is our only salvation...but that is up to each individual.

where can I find this 'special teaching' ,Nick?

[NicholasMarks]

where can I find this 'special teaching' ,Nick?

It doesn't matter where you start reading your copy of the Holy Bible reference to it is on virtually every page...Walter.

From the start of Genesis to Revelation we find our God is fully conversant with it...all miracles stem from it...resurrection is the fruits of it and the making of stars is created from it. These, in their own right lead to deeper truths such as stars are made from atoms so these are made from it as well.

But...to be honest...it might be better to leave you all to your own fate...and I would if it wasn't so horrific.

 

[Anchorman]

All...

Science doesn't take into account the raw material that created all mass and all science controlling that mass...yet it is the essence behind all Biblical teaching. Obviously special teaching is required to bring that science alive and I know that it's all contained within the Gospels. With the worst possible Biblical scenario breathing down our necks it might be wise to refresh ourselves on our Biblical knowledge because it seems it is our only salvation...but that is up to each individual.

 

Nice words.
Rubbish, but nice words anyway.

[jeremyp]

It really puzzles me why some people cannot understand this.
why do you think this is ,jeremyp?

It's actually pretty straight forward. Hope doesn't have enough faith. He is constantly trying to justify his beliefs to others and probably himself. In order to do this, he has constructed a pseudo scientific system of ersatz evidence and to legitimise it, he has to pretend it is as good as real science. It's easier to drag science down to his level than to bring his system up to the level of science.

If Hope had the courage to say "ok I admit the evidence is not there, but I have faith", that would be the end of the discussion.

[Maeght]

NM, where in Genesis does it say that the seed was already in the earth please?

[NicholasMarks]

NM, where in Genesis does it say that the seed was already in the earth please?

I refer you to reply #50 Maeght which is a reply to the last time you asked the same question.

[floo]

It doesn't matter where you start reading your copy of the Holy Bible reference to it is on virtually every page...Walter.

From the start of Genesis to Revelation we find our God is fully conversant with it...all miracles stem from it...resurrection is the fruits of it and the making of stars is created from it. These, in their own right lead to deeper truths such as stars are made from atoms so these are made from it as well.

But...to be honest...it might be better to leave you all to your own fate...and I would if it wasn't so horrific.

Your nonsense is eye watering! I am familiar with the Bible but obviously do not have the unique imagination you have when interpreting what is written.

[Walter]

It's actually pretty straight forward. Hope doesn't have enough faith. He is constantly trying to justify his beliefs to others and probably himself. In order to do this, he has constructed a pseudo scientific system of ersatz evidence and to legitimise it, he has to pretend it is as good as real science. It's easier to drag science down to his level than to bring his system up to the level of science.

If Hope had the courage to say "ok I admit the evidence is not there, but I have faith", that would be the end of the discussion.

It must be as difficult for him to do that as for me to pretend I was gay.

thanks for the reply.

[floo]

I refer you to reply #50 Maeght which is a reply to the last time you asked the same question.

That doesn't answer the question in a sensible manner, as your answer is speculation, not fact.

[NicholasMarks]

That doesn't answer the question in a sensible manner, as your answer is speculation, not fact.

I think, without a shadow of a doubt, Floo, we have divorced any conception that Jesus' accurate teaching is in anyway connected with mythology...but more to do with science, in a very skilled and meaningful way.

Science is saying much the same...that there is an invisible, superabundant, undetectable form of energy more like water than like particles and it has a voice in every science whether we like it or not...and Jesus Christ foolishly delivered the knowledge of that science so that we cannot be saved because we refuse to believe him...

...except for the millions that will be saved...of course.

[floo]

I think, without a shadow of a doubt, Floo, we have divorced any conception that Jesus' accurate teaching is in anyway connected with mythology...but more to do with science, in a very skilled and meaningful way.

Science is saying much the same...that there is an invisible, superabundant, undetectable form of energy more like water than like particles and it has a voice in every science whether we like it or not...and Jesus Christ foolishly delivered the knowledge of that science so that we cannot be saved because we refuse to believe him...

...except for the millions that will be saved...of course.

OH NM, what Jesus is reported as saying had absolutely NOTHING to do with science. If he was alive today I bet he would be as gobsmacked as the rest of us at the spin you put on it!

[NicholasMarks]

OH NM, what Jesus is reported as saying had absolutely NOTHING to do with science. If he was alive today I bet he would be as gobsmacked as the rest of us at the spin you put on it!

I think that someone who wasn't from this planet must have known an awful lot about science...especially about how to cross the great void of space successfully...because that principle is also silently loitering in his accurate teaching...but obviously you have your own take on these things...which aren't very constructive in the least.

[Walter]

OH NM, what Jesus is reported as saying had absolutely NOTHING to do with science. If he was alive today I bet he would be as gobsmacked as the rest of us at the spin you put on it!

NM arrives in heaven carrying his bible and says to god ' oh thank you lord I've been reading and teaching every day from the bible to anyone who would listen to me '

god replies ' the bible , I'm sick of hearing about that , IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME'

NS asks 'so why am I here then ?'

god says  ' to stop you from bloody going on and on about it , you're getting right on my nerves'!

[Maeght]

I refer you to reply #50 Maeght which is a reply to the last time you asked the same question.

You didn't show where it said that, which is why I asked again. You gave your interpretation. SO where does it actually say that?

[Hope]

god replies ' the bible , I'm sick of hearing about that , IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME'

Do you have any evidence to that effect, Walt?   

[Walter]

Do you have any evidence to that effect, Walt?   

exactly the same amount as you asserting the contrary,