The strange afterlife of Pontius Pilate

[Nearly Sane]

I think he went to live with Biggus Dickus


http://www.historytoday.com/kevin-butcher/strange-afterlife-pontius-pilate

[Shaker]

He has a wife, you know ..

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I think he went to live with Biggus Dickus


http://www.historytoday.com/kevin-butcher/strange-afterlife-pontius-pilate

I heard it was Argumentum ad populum........or maybe Leprechaunum Hibernium.

[Dicky Underpants]

I think he went to live with Biggus Dickus


http://www.historytoday.com/kevin-butcher/strange-afterlife-pontius-pilate

He has a strange connection with Switzerland, specifically Luzern for some reason. The mountain overlooking the town is known as Pilatus, and the legend goes that his soul is imprisoned at the bottom of the Lake, because of his misdemeanors.

(Luzern is a beautiful place, and the top of Mount Pilatus can be accessed by cogwheel railway, and descended from by cable cars. And Wagner enthusiasts will know that the composer once lived by the lake there, courtesy of King Ludwig of Bavaria.
There is also the "Plague Bridge" which commemorates less pleasant matters of the past.)

[Nearly Sane]

And supposedly born in Fortingall

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortingall

[ad_orientem]

It's probably unsurprising that I accept the Gospel accounts regarding Pilate, that he reluctantly had Jesus put to death at the demands of the Jews. He showed his weakness by not doing what he felt to be the right thing. I quite like the tradition that Christ moved him to such a degree that, in some form or another, he believed in him.

[Brownie]

So do I but we may be fanciful about that.

As for the demands of the Jews, Jesus had plenty of supporters amongst the Jews.  Don't forget that.  Pilate couldn't couldn't please everyone so he washed his hands of the whole business.

[jeremyp]

He has a wife, you know ..

I hope you don't find it......


....risible.

[jeremyp]

So do I but we may be fanciful about that.

As for the demands of the Jews, Jesus had plenty of supporters amongst the Jews.  Don't forget that.  Pilate couldn't couldn't please everyone so he washed his hands of the whole business.

Pilate wasn't particularly worried about what the Jews thought. Philo and Josephus both recorded that he repeatedly did things to antagonise them. Had Jesus really come before Pilate, he would have been condemned to death without a moment's thought.

The gospel accounts are almost certainly fiction. After all, who was in Pilate's house to record what was said?

[Alien]

... After all, who was in Pilate's house to record what was said?

Jesus?

[jeremyp]

Jesus?

Jesus was dead later the same day having been in custody the whole time. He had no opportunity to tell anybody else what had happened.

Welcome back, by the way.

[ad_orientem]

Jesus was dead later the same day having been in custody the whole time. He had no opportunity to tell anybody else what had happened.

Only if you don't believe in the resurrection.

[floo]

Only if you don't believe in the resurrection.

There is not the slightest bit of verifiable evidence to support Jesus resurrecting after three days dead.

[ad_orientem]

There is not the slightest bit of verifiable evidence to support Jesus resurrecting after three days dead.

Zzzzz!

[Walter]

Zzzzz!

you sound like the flies round his dead body (if there ever was one)

[floo]

you sound like the flies round his dead body (if there ever was one)

Nice one!

[Dicky Underpants]

And supposedly born in Fortingall

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortingall

Quite a character, all in all. Born in Fortingall (or somewhere in Spain, or Germany), met his end in Luzern, and is either spending a damp eternity at the bottom of the Vierwaldstattesee, or enjoying endless bliss having been named a saint by the Coptic Church (and maybe some branches of the Orthodox too)

[jeremyp]

Only if you don't believe in the resurrection.

Welcome to the real world

[Alien]

Jesus was dead later the same day having been in custody the whole time. He had no opportunity to tell anybody else what had happened.

Welcome back, by the way.

Wot, AO said.

Thanks for the welcome. I doubt I'll be around much though. I tend to hang out on atheist Facebook pages these days or, at least, when I don't get banned. The standard of discussion there is far inferior, usually, to what it is here, but the range of subjects is quite interesting (as is much of the language).

[Anchorman]

Only if you don't believe in the resurrection.

Yep!

[Alien]

Wot, AO said.

Thanks for the welcome. I doubt I'll be around much though. I tend to hang out on atheist Facebook pages these days or, at least, when I don't get banned. The standard of discussion there is far inferior, usually, to what it is here, but the range of subjects is quite interesting (as is much of the language).

Actually, it is only if the resurrection didn't take place rather than whether anyone believes it took place or not.

[Nearly Sane]

Actually, it is only if the resurrection didn't take place rather than whether anyone believes it took place or not.

it's only if there weren't unicorns.... Shifting the burden of proof and begging the question. Economic with fallacies as ever

[jeremyp]

Wot, AO said.

Ad O just said (I paraphrase slightly) "but what about magic?" That's not a serious argument.

Thanks for the welcome. I doubt I'll be around much though. I tend to hang out on atheist Facebook pages these days or, at least, when I don't get banned. The standard of discussion there is far inferior, usually, to what it is here, but the range of subjects is quite interesting (as is much of the language).

Are you on Kay's Faith Values and Beliefs group?

[ad_orientem]

Ad O just said (I paraphrase slightly) "but what about magic?"

Not even close, pal.

[floo]

I think he went to live with Biggus Dickus


http://www.historytoday.com/kevin-butcher/strange-afterlife-pontius-pilate

A good question. One wonders why Jesus didn't appear to Pilate when he supposedly was resurrected?