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« Reply #1425 on: October 11, 2018, 10:10:57 AM »
Many highly successful businessmen, like Trump, are psychopaths, and that is a personality disorder. So is narcissism, which is also compatible with being very successful. I think Trump is both.

There lies the problem Steve H, you think...  The Queen successful and very rich do you accuse her of the same thing?
What about the big bankers? You see there is absolutely nothing but conjecture in your opinion. You don't have enough facts about him on a psychological examination which would be necessary to determine what Trump is or isn't,   So do you think your opinion really useful in the great scheme of things when you yourself are not trained in any form of psychiatry?
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« Reply #1426 on: October 11, 2018, 10:12:16 AM »
Vladimir Putin is God? Never knew that.

What is God? Is God a human being?  Remember you allowed yourself to post this Jeremyp. Would never have allowed myself to post something so off the chart.
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« Reply #1427 on: October 11, 2018, 10:17:03 AM »
Every time I think of Trump I now envisage a survivor from the Devonian comprising a primitive brain that supports a large ego and an alimentary canal with an arsehole at both ends.

But surely that is your opinion on what you have allowed others to tell you and you chose to believe about Trump?
So what is the value of what you are saying?

Men like Trump do not get to be president unless someone somewhere believes there is purpose to it.

Truth is he is President and America are solely responsible for this as our Country was for Margaret Thatcher and Theresa May.  Both used to change things and blame the sex rather than the position they hold and the men who back them.  Method in their madness... No one will be able to judge to their period in office ends. Maggie Thatcher given a rough ride but nevertheless she has gone down in the history books as the iron lady.   What I want to see is opinions based on facts not supposition.
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« Reply #1428 on: October 11, 2018, 10:22:12 AM »
Give him time. And he's still carrying on the ones started by previous administrations. It's what the US does, to that extent I don't think Trump is any more or less guilty than his predecessors, what is more worrying is his sheer unpredictability and apparent lack of knowledge on geo-political situations.

(PS I don't even know why I used the word "apparent" there!)

Who started the Vietnam war?  How long did it last?  1955 to 1975. about 17 years in combat.

You think he could start one that long and let it drag out all those years with young men coming home in body bags?

I think sometimes prevention is better than cure. Threaten war if they are out of line threatening to use atomic weapons or types like nerve gas etc.  But like any Country has never gone to war when a president or prime minister been in power?  Isn't that we have these people to decide on our behalf for our protection? :o  You cannot use what might or might not happen. Because these events happen because of circumstances all in power have to face.
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« Reply #1429 on: October 11, 2018, 10:27:02 AM »

We cannot think as you do. Every person has committed sin and lied but not necessarily in their job.  I believe that people lie and do most of those things like adultery but they still save lives and bring justice.
Ah, now I understand why God chose Stalin.
To murder several million people.
And Hitler, he was chosen because all of those annoying Jewish people needed a solution for them.

Now its all perfectly clear!
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« Reply #1430 on: October 11, 2018, 10:27:47 AM »
Looking at the replies there is a clear dislike of Trump but no factual evidence for those disgruntled remarks.
I sometimes wonder why the business across the Pond is any business of ours?  The present day regulations regarding prison and even our benefit system and health care are all
inherited from USA.  These people allow their families to live in cars on the street. They allow them to starve and allow them to be treated less than human.


You are all busy giving an opinion on Donald Trump but what about our own Government and the people in our Country being made homeless and being starved and put into poverty.
You need to get your priorities right before you don't get a choice in the matter.
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« Reply #1431 on: October 11, 2018, 10:34:16 AM »
Ah, now I understand why God chose Stalin.
To murder several million people.
And Hitler, he was chosen because all of those annoying Jewish people needed a solution for them.

Now its all perfectly clear!

Did you write the above post?  Do you believe in God?  So tell me why you were chosen by anyone to write the above?

Well Seb!  Your own thinking is shown to be lacking because to make the above statement true you would need to believe in God and you would have to make the statement work of how the actions of those men were from God and not Satan.

If you are going to do the 'good God' against the 'evil Devil' at some point in your thinking you need to know the bible and to address the issues as to why evil is in the world.

Satan would obviously have lead you to blame God for he and you did together.  The sad part in this world is that if you don't chose God, you automatically have chosen the devil.

God knows what we will do he does not interfere. But Satan has no knowledge of the future or Gods plans for the good of man.  He is going to hell and taking many with him.


Satan hates mankind not God.  Satan works well in your train of thought because like you he wants you to hate the notion and refrain from the truth even when it is right in front of you written in the bible.  It is a fallen world and the world is like the humans corrupt and wrong thinking when outside Christ.
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« Reply #1432 on: October 11, 2018, 10:35:55 AM »

I sometimes wonder why the business across the Pond is any business of ours? 


Then wonder no more........

The present day regulations regarding prison and even our benefit system and health care are all
inherited from USA.  These people allow their families to live in cars on the street. They allow them to starve and allow them to be treated less than human.
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« Reply #1433 on: October 11, 2018, 10:40:37 AM »
Did you write the above post?  Do you believe in God?  So tell me why you were chosen by anyone to write the above?

Well Seb!  Your own thinking is shown to be lacking because to make the above statement true you would need to believe in God and you would have to make the statement work of how the actions of those men were from God and not Satan.

Did God choose those men to be the leaders of their countries or did he not choose them?

A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #1434 on: October 11, 2018, 01:25:04 PM »
Bernie?
Only joined the Democrat Party when he wanted to run for president and then failed to get nominated.

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In the age of Blair - Cameron, I would suggest Democrats would more align with Blair.

That's a fair assessment I think .
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #1435 on: October 11, 2018, 01:27:22 PM »
What is God? Is God a human being?  Remember you allowed yourself to post this Jeremyp. Would never have allowed myself to post something so off the chart.
It was a joke. You said God chose Trump to be president. We all know that Putin rigged the election to get Trump in power. Therefore Putin is God.
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« Reply #1436 on: October 11, 2018, 01:39:43 PM »
It doesn't say much that is good about god if it chose that dangerous psycho across the pond to be president.
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« Reply #1437 on: October 11, 2018, 07:04:14 PM »
God (that's for those who believe in God) leaves us to choose people who are supposed to lead us. He doesn't put them in power, people do. We often choose wrongly. Good thing is, in relatively democratic countries, they can be voted out eventually. All we can do is hope they don't do irreparable damage while they're 'in' - & that the next choice is at least a bit better. None are perfect but Trump is so stupid, stubborn & arrogant he could do very serious damage during his term & that's frightening.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #1438 on: October 12, 2018, 09:35:53 AM »
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The present day regulations regarding prison and even our benefit system and health care are all
inherited from USA.

Are you sure you even have a clue about what you are typing?
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« Reply #1439 on: October 12, 2018, 02:21:05 PM »
Are you sure you even have a clue about what you are typing?

I was wondering that too.
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« Reply #1441 on: October 16, 2018, 08:56:47 AM »
Even Trump can do something sensible and compassionate occasionally.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/30/trump-signs-right-to-try-legislation-on-experimental-medicines.html
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« Reply #1442 on: October 16, 2018, 09:34:47 AM »
Even Trump can do something sensible and compassionate occasionally.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/30/trump-signs-right-to-try-legislation-on-experimental-medicines.html

Could this not also be a quack's charter, with vulnerable people being victims to hoaxters or unqualified practitioners?
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« Reply #1443 on: October 16, 2018, 09:45:47 AM »
Could this not also be a quack's charter, with vulnerable people being victims to hoaxters or unqualified practitioners?

It could be. Depends on where the funding comes from and what the treatments are. It could also bring relief and prolong life.

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« Reply #1444 on: October 16, 2018, 09:58:01 AM »
Could this not also be a quack's charter, with vulnerable people being victims to hoaxters or unqualified practitioners?
Given that the drugs would have to have passed phase 1 of the FDA approval process, I don't see that as being more likely than currently. In addition there is nothing that stops snake oil sellers at the moment as long as they neither advertise false claims nor cause actual harm.

It should be pointed out that despite Trump's liking of the title 'Right to Try', it isn't a right since it is up to the drug suppliers to chose to provide. It might not lead to that many treatments since they might be wary of being sued even with the new legislation if certain side effects were to happen.

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« Reply #1445 on: October 16, 2018, 12:12:13 PM »
Could this not also be a quack's charter, with vulnerable people being victims to hoaxters or unqualified practitioners?
No - read the article. The drugs still have to have passed part of the testing procedure.
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« Reply #1446 on: October 16, 2018, 12:42:26 PM »
Given that the drugs would have to have passed phase 1 of the FDA approval process, I don't see that as being more likely than currently. In addition there is nothing that stops snake oil sellers at the moment as long as they neither advertise false claims nor cause actual harm.

I accept that. My thoughts, however, were that  - aware of Donald Trump's considerable antipathy to global climate change science -  he might support anti-vax sympathies and believe that unorthodox medicine is as valid as clinical medicine.
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« Reply #1447 on: October 16, 2018, 01:02:14 PM »
I accept that. My thoughts, however, were that  - aware of Donald Trump's considerable antipathy to global climate change science -  he might support anti-vax sympathies and believe that unorthodox medicine is as valid as clinical medicine.
There certainly have been some questions in the past about that but I don't see this measure as necessarily being part of the idea. I think it just looks like an easy piece of legislation. I'm still cynical about how much affect it will have in practice. In addition, I think it will be used to incorrectly contrast with 'socialised medicines death committees'.

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« Reply #1448 on: October 17, 2018, 05:35:18 PM »
I thought this was an interesting article about Trump.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45817222
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« Reply #1449 on: October 17, 2018, 08:34:10 PM »
The man who was the ghost writer for Trump: The Art of the Deal (he states that he wrote the whole thing ... but Trump says otherwise and claimed 50% of the royalties) was interviewed on Radio 4 PM this evening. His characterisation of Trump is possibly the most frightening I have heard yet.

You should be able to listen to it on iPlayer.
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