Former President Trump

[jeremyp]

He seems to be keeping up the good work even on his hols.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40869319

Yeah, you see the kind of stories I like are the ones which just show Trump up to be an incompetent buffoon and a liar. If there's also a hint of global thermonuclear war, it tends to spoil my enjoyment.

[Rhiannon]

Yeah, you see the kind of stories I like are the ones which just show Trump up to be an incompetent buffoon and a liar. If there's also a hint of global thermonuclear war, it tends to spoil my enjoyment.

You and me both.

[Aruntraveller]

I don't know why but Private Fraser keeps popping into my head.

We're doomed.

[jeremyp]

I don't know why but Private Fraser keeps popping into my head.

We're doomed.

I'm more in the Arthur Dent camp.

"So this is it. We're going to die."

[Aruntraveller]

Still he can't lose the 2020 election if there's no 2020.

(pinched from FB)

[Sassy]

You have nuclear weapons in the hands of Japan, China and Russia... you think you are safe?

[Aruntraveller]

Oh look the defender of the pussy handler is back.

[Nearly Sane]

You have nuclear weapons in the hands of Japan, China and Russia... you think you are safe?

Just to point out that Japan does not have nuclear weapons and is strongly against anyone having them their experience as having been the only nation that has suffered from them informs this. Part of the while issue with NK is that they would be able to target Japan.

[Harrowby Hall]

Oh look the defender of the pussy handler is back.

And she has demonstrated her total lack of understanding of the situation in Japan. An hour at the Peace Park and Museum in Hiroshima would be very instructive.

[Nearly Sane]

In many ways, there isn't much Trump can do here. He's made at least some effort to get the Chinese on side and while the rhetoric is both overblown and unconvincing, it's standard tactics. As with nearly all geopolitical crises, there is an air of inevitability with the actual choices open to countries restricted by previous decisions. I think that Trump has made this a bit worse than it might be but it isn't a problem of his own making.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40871754

[jeremyp]

In many ways, there isn't much Trump can do here. He's made at least some effort to get the Chinese on side and while the rhetoric is both overblown and unconvincing, it's standard tactics. As with nearly all geopolitical crises, there is an air of inevitability with the actual choices open to countries restricted by previous decisions. I think that Trump has made this a bit worse than it might be but it isn't a problem of his own making.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40871754

Well, no NK building nuclear weapons made the problem, but the rain of fire and fury line makes him look extremely weak because NK immediately called his bluff and what's he going to do now? He can't actually rain fire and fury on NK without killing a lot of people and potentially starting a war with China. So now he's going to look weak for making threats he can't carry out...

... or, is he egotistical enough to carry out his threat? If that's the case, I'm stocking up on canned goods.

[Nearly Sane]

And the campaign for the reelection of the President  (with the appropriate trafitiinal acronym) has started


http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-trump-election-idUKKCN1AT0NZ

[Nearly Sane]

Trump's response here is one baby step up from 'you smell of poo and wee'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40921600

[Rhiannon]

Trump's response here is one baby step up from 'you smell of poo and wee'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40921600

Oh his staff at thecWH must be thrilled.

[Nearly Sane]

Oh his staff at thecWH must be thrilled.

They know they have the life expectancy of a GoT character.

[Nearly Sane]

So goodbye Bannon? (Cynical face)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40927089

[Rhiannon]

So goodbye Bannon? (Cynical face)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40927089

Hmm so what leverage was brought to bear? Someone must have threatened to quit something.

Scaramucci's convinced Bannon is out.

[Nearly Sane]

Hmm so what leverage was brought to bear? Someone must have threatened to quit something.

Scaramucci's convinced Bannon is out.

It doesn't need that much leverage. Trump is happy to backtrack to avoid looking bad. The comments across the board were enough. I think Gorka will go before Bannon.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/sebastian-gorka-charlottesville-white-supremacists-not-problem-white-house-adviser-breitbart-news-a7893156.html

[Nearly Sane]

I worry that I see this in some echo chamber fashion and that perhaps there is another way of reading it, but how can you consider anyone marching in a protest with swastikas as part of it as a good person is beyond me. The 'slip' of referring to a group of white supremacists and Nazis as 'us' is scary.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40943425

[Rhiannon]

I think we now know that Trump wasn't just playing to his far right support, but actually saying what he thinks.

[SusanDoris]

On Five Live - I think it was  about 3:0 a.m., Trump was facing, apparently by choice, journalists in New York, and was arguing with them and shouting them down. Well, that's how it sounded to me. Presidential? No!! The sort of person you'd want making sensible decisions for his country? *shudder*

[Nearly Sane]

Just to highlight this

'Mr Trump's remarks were welcomed by David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, who tweeted: "Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa."'

[Anchorman]

Just to highlight this

'Mr Trump's remarks were welcomed by David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, who tweeted: "Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa."'

Says it all, really.

[Aruntraveller]

Says it all, really.

As I think I have remarked before, I have no words. The whole thing is beyond parody, sense, humanity. It is completely bonkers. Dangerous bonkers at that.

[Nearly Sane]

I agree, it is frightening they don't seem to be able to kick Trump out.

On what basis do you suggest he should be 'kicked out'?