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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2150 on: November 09, 2020, 03:52:38 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 09, 2020, 12:32:11 AM

A view of Trump

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/08/hoping-for-a-return-to-normal-after-trump-thats-the-last-thing-we-need?fbclid=IwAR1-YGj3wuPSQpDSp_2sCrwInJmafT3ywg3ivcwZ65pcjkEGuFMhV5o7Oys


Great for the stinking rich, tough, tougher due to Covid, for those who work for the stinking rich and who gives a fuck about the rest of the world as long as the good ole U S of A is OK!

I have little concern for his effect on the U S but his attitude to Global Warming in particular and the oil pipeline from Canada and quite possibly ecology as a whole make my blood run cold.

So he doesn't care what people think of him as long as they keep him in the White House, but they haven't have they?
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2151 on: November 09, 2020, 09:04:07 AM »
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2152 on: November 09, 2020, 07:28:13 PM »
Quote from: Owlswing on November 09, 2020, 03:52:38 AM
Great for the stinking rich, tough, tougher due to Covid, for those who work for the stinking rich and who gives a fuck about the rest of the world as long as the good ole U S of A is OK!

I have little concern for his effect on the U S but his attitude to Global Warming in particular and the oil pipeline from Canada and quite possibly ecology as a whole make my blood run cold.

So he doesn't care what people think of him as long as they keep him in the White House, but they haven't have they?
You seem to have missed Varoufakis' point which is in no sense to defend Trump but to critique the idea that a return to normal is some form of a solution.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2153 on: November 09, 2020, 08:09:26 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 09, 2020, 07:28:13 PM

 You seem to have missed Varoufakis' point which is in no sense to defend Trump but to critique the idea that a return to normal is some form of a solution.


A "return to normal" in the U S seems to be 'no change' except that the attitude of the rich to the not rich is not quite so blatant! The White House will remain as racist as ever but not so blatant.


Trump's America was the same as before but he didn't give a damn who knew about it.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2154 on: November 09, 2020, 08:39:03 PM »
Quote from: Owlswing on November 09, 2020, 08:09:26 PM
A "return to normal" in the U S seems to be 'no change' except that the attitude of the rich to the not rich is not quite so blatant! The White House will remain as racist as ever but not so blatant.


Trump's America was the same as before but he didn't give a damn who knew about it.
Which is why Varoufakis is saying a return to normal will solve nothing, and he is making no defence of Trump, indeed he is condemning him.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2155 on: November 10, 2020, 12:57:20 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 09, 2020, 08:39:03 PM

 Which is why Varoufakis is saying a return to normal will solve nothing, and he is making no defence of Trump, indeed he is condemning him.

Sir, I bow to your ability to read journalistese better than I!
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2156 on: November 11, 2020, 11:40:49 AM »
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2157 on: November 11, 2020, 04:51:22 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 11, 2020, 11:40:49 AM
What Trump might do next.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54875343

It doesn't mention the possibility that Trump might be spending his remaining years fighting of court cases (or in prison if he is unsuccessful in court).

Also, I think it underestimates the trouble his businesses are in. He's up to the neck in debt and a lot of his assets are hotels which are probably not profitable at the moment.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2158 on: November 17, 2020, 07:17:34 PM »
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« Reply #2159 on: November 17, 2020, 07:32:01 PM »
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2160 on: November 18, 2020, 09:00:53 AM »
Trump is going from bad to worse, if that is possible. He behaves like a small child having frequent temper tantrums. His supporters must be as bonkers as he is if they can't see how sick in the head that man is.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2161 on: November 18, 2020, 09:06:58 AM »
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it."    Hitler
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2162 on: November 21, 2020, 09:41:25 AM »
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2163 on: November 21, 2020, 10:18:33 AM »
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2164 on: November 21, 2020, 11:10:16 AM »
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2165 on: November 21, 2020, 12:10:00 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 18, 2020, 09:00:53 AM
...temper tantrums...
As I pointed out on another thread, this is an oxymoron, and even if one accepts that "temper" now means the opposite of its original meaning, it's still a tautology. All you needed to say was "tantrums".
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2166 on: November 21, 2020, 12:32:40 PM »
Quote from: Beyoncé Castle on November 21, 2020, 12:10:00 PM

As I pointed out on another thread, this is an oxymoron, and even if one accepts that "temper" now means the opposite of its original meaning, it's still a tautology. All you needed to say was "tantrums".


Pedant!


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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2167 on: November 21, 2020, 01:26:40 PM »
Quote from: Beyoncé Castle on November 21, 2020, 12:10:00 PM
As I pointed out on another thread, this is an oxymoron, and even if one accepts that "temper" now means the opposite of its original meaning, it's still a tautology. All you needed to say was "tantrums".

Really? You're complaining about that?
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2168 on: November 21, 2020, 01:37:28 PM »
Quote from: Beyoncé Castle on November 21, 2020, 12:10:00 PM
As I pointed out on another thread, this is an oxymoron, and even if one accepts that "temper" now means the opposite of its original meaning, it's still a tautology. All you needed to say was "tantrums".

Oh for pity's sake, GIVE IT A REST! ::)
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2169 on: November 21, 2020, 02:04:44 PM »
He's right though. I have used the phrase "temper tantrums" before now but won't again now he has reminded me. It's like saying, "Let me reiterate again".
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2170 on: November 21, 2020, 02:13:52 PM »
I do like winding up the easily-wound-up with a bit of pedantry! Childish, I know, but there it is.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2171 on: November 21, 2020, 02:22:43 PM »
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2172 on: November 21, 2020, 02:37:49 PM »
Quote from: Beyoncé Castle on November 21, 2020, 02:13:52 PM
I do like winding up the easily-wound-up with a bit of pedantry! Childish, I know, but there it is.

It doesn't seem to take much for you to have a TEMPER tantrum as you appear to be easily wound up. Shades of that darling man across the pond. :P ;D ;D ;D
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2173 on: November 21, 2020, 04:16:58 PM »
What a waste of time, temper tantrum is a phrase that has passed into common usage. You can be a pedant if you want, but is it worth it:

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/temper-tantrums/
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2174 on: November 21, 2020, 04:29:08 PM »
Quote from: Trentvoyager on November 21, 2020, 04:16:58 PM

What a waste of time, temper tantrum is a phrase that has passed into common usage. You can be a pedant if you want, but is it worth it:

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/temper-tantrums/



If it gives our friend pleasure, fine, it seems to be a sweetie to an infant!
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