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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2175 on: November 21, 2020, 04:35:03 PM »
Quote from: Owlswing on November 21, 2020, 04:29:08 PM

If it gives our friend pleasure, fine, it seems to be a sweetie to an infant!

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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2176 on: November 21, 2020, 04:40:44 PM »
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2177 on: November 21, 2020, 04:43:15 PM »
Quote from: Owlswing on November 21, 2020, 04:29:08 PM

If it gives our friend pleasure, fine, it seems to be a sweetie to an infant!

Aw I'm not an infant. I like to know precise meanings & notice when people are imprecise, don't mind when my mistakes are pointed out to me. If I heard something incorrect I probably wouldn't say anything in real life because there's a time and place but would think it. Here isn't real life tho' & we learn all the time. That's the reason places like this exist.

From Cambridge dictionary:-
tantrum
noun [ C ]
UK  /ˈtæn.trəm/ US  /ˈtæn.trəm/
 
a sudden period of uncontrolled anger like a young child's:
"Charlie had/threw a tantrum in the shop because I wouldn't buy him any sweets."
If she doesn't get her own way she has (temper) tantrums.

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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2178 on: November 21, 2020, 04:49:55 PM »
Trent:-  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/21/trump-monumental-sulk-president-retreats-from-public-eye-covid-ravages-us

I especially like this bit:-
“Donald Trump has not only suffered a catastrophic political defeat, he’s clearly also suffering from a deep emotional break. This behavior is even more erratic than usual and he has retreated. He has put himself in a form of psychological isolation. His emotional state is clearly abysmal. In the popular lexicon, he’s lost it.”

One way of looking at it I suppose.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2179 on: November 22, 2020, 01:13:35 PM »
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2180 on: November 22, 2020, 02:32:24 PM »
There are many articles on-line stating that Trump has a serious mental health problem, which appears to be the case if his behaviour since the election is anything to go by. It is really scary that he still has nearly two months to go before Biden takes over! :o
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2181 on: November 22, 2020, 03:38:49 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 22, 2020, 02:32:24 PM
There are many articles on-line stating that Trump has a serious mental health problem, which appears to be the case if his behaviour since the election is anything to go by. It is really scary that he still has nearly two months to go before Biden takes over! :o
There are many articles online stating that Covid is a plot to bring in fascist controls
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2182 on: November 22, 2020, 03:46:26 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 22, 2020, 03:38:49 PM
There are many articles online stating that Covid is a plot to bring in fascist controls

True, but Trump's behaviour does give rise to serious concern.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2183 on: November 22, 2020, 04:17:19 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 22, 2020, 03:46:26 PM
True, but Trump's behaviour does give rise to serious concern.
If you are worried about law suits after you are President, and are willing to do most things to save yourself, then sanity may be the scariest thing.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2184 on: November 22, 2020, 04:51:03 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 22, 2020, 04:17:19 PM
If you are worried about law suits after you are President, and are willing to do most things to save yourself, then sanity may be the scariest thing.

So you reckon Trump is pretending to be mentally ill to avoid law suits?
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2185 on: November 22, 2020, 05:04:54 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 22, 2020, 04:51:03 PM
So you reckon Trump is pretending to be mentally ill to avoid law suits?
No.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2186 on: November 22, 2020, 05:06:53 PM »
So what are you saying?
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2187 on: November 22, 2020, 05:12:49 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 22, 2020, 05:06:53 PM
So what are you saying?
That neither you nor I are qualified to diagnose Trump as insane. You think his actions show him to be so, but given the circumstances they seem to me the actions of a sane if amoral person
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2188 on: November 22, 2020, 05:20:43 PM »
That is your opinion to which you are entitled.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2189 on: November 22, 2020, 05:52:25 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 22, 2020, 05:20:43 PM
That is your opinion to which you are entitled.
It's not opinion that neither of us are qualified to diagnose Trump.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2190 on: November 22, 2020, 06:26:21 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 22, 2020, 05:06:53 PM
So what are you saying?

He's saying that Trump is desperate to remain president to avoid going to prison after it's all over and will therefore do anything to stay in power.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2191 on: November 22, 2020, 06:30:08 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 22, 2020, 05:20:43 PM
That is your opinion to which you are entitled.
That's what you always say when you've been comprehensively out-argued, but don't want to admit it.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2192 on: November 22, 2020, 06:35:16 PM »
I still think Trump has mental health issues as do many other people, but we can only speculate as to what his actual problem is.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2193 on: November 22, 2020, 06:36:39 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 22, 2020, 06:35:16 PM
I still think Trump has mental health issues as do many other people, but we can only speculate as to what his actual problem is.
You have no expertise to diagnose Trump, and the 'many other people' is simply you using the ad populum fallacy.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2194 on: November 22, 2020, 06:41:27 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 22, 2020, 06:36:39 PM
You have no expertise to diagnose Trump, and the 'many other people' is simply you using the ad populum fallacy.

I never said I had, but you are speculating as well.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2195 on: November 22, 2020, 06:51:23 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 22, 2020, 06:41:27 PM
I never said I had, but you are speculating as well.
Yes, I made that clear. I just didn't use fallacious arguments like the ad populum to try and make my case.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2196 on: November 22, 2020, 07:57:26 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 22, 2020, 06:36:39 PM
You have no expertise to diagnose Trump, and the 'many other people' is simply you using the ad populum fallacy.

Yes but several qualified people are saying that Trump does have mental health issues.
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2197 on: November 22, 2020, 08:04:24 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on November 22, 2020, 07:57:26 PM
Yes but several qualified people are saying that Trump does have mental health issues.
Not an argument made by LR, so irrelevant to my point. And in terms of that argument, there are lots of qualified people saying he does not
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2198 on: November 23, 2020, 08:39:02 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 22, 2020, 06:51:23 PM
Yes, I made that clear. I just didn't use fallacious arguments like the ad populum to try and make my case.


Really? ;D
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Re: President Elect Trump
« Reply #2199 on: November 23, 2020, 08:48:19 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 22, 2020, 06:36:39 PM
... the 'many other people' is simply you using the ad populum fallacy.
No it isn't. LR simply mentioned that many people think Trump is bonkers. She didn't try to draw any conclusion from that.
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