Former President Trump

[Roses]

I wonder which actor will be the Trump character when this election, like no other, is turned into a movie?

[Nearly Sane]

No it isn't. LR simply mentioned that many people think Trump is bonkers. She didn't try to draw any conclusion from that.

Then it's entirely irrelevant

[Nearly Sane]

I wonder which actor will be the Trump character when this election, like no other, is turned into a movie?

Based on his impersonations of him on Saturday Night Live, Alec Baldwin


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Live

[SteveH]

Then it's entirely irrelevant

Have you ever admitted you were wrong about anything?

[Nearly Sane]

Have you ever admitted you were wrong about anything?

Many times. If it isn't being used as an ad populum, can you explain why it is relevant? It will make discussion easier if you don't make irrelevant personal comments, and instead present arguments.

[SteveH]

Many times. If it isn't being used as an ad populum, can you explain why it is relevant? It will make discussion easier if you don't make irrelevant personal comments, and instead present arguments.

Being widely believed doesn't prove the belief to be true, but that doesn't make it irrelevant. If you want to avoid personal comments, you could try being less cocky and confrontational.

[Nearly Sane]

Being widely believed doesn't prove the belief to be true, but that doesn't make it irrelevant. If you want to avoid personal comments, you could try being less cocky and confrontational.

Why is it relevant?

[SteveH]

Why is it relevant?

Because LR is arguing in more loosely conversational terms than you are allowing for. I think you may be guilty of the McNamara fallacy.

[Nearly Sane]

Because LR is arguing in more loosely conversational terms than you are allowing for. I think you may be guilty of the McNamara fallacy.

That doesn't explain any relevance.

[SteveH]

Many times.

Examples please, or I may have to accuse you of the proof-by-assertion fallacy.

[Nearly Sane]

Examples please, or I may have to accuse you of the proof-by-assertion fallacy.

  I frequently tell my wife that I was wrong about facts in recollections and that her memory was correct.

Not seeing the relevance to the thread.

[SteveH]

That doesn't explain any relevance.

It's relevant in a loosely conversational way.

[Nearly Sane]

It's relevant in a loosely conversational way.

And again that's not explaining any relevance. What point is the statement being made for?

[SteveH]

Oh, to hell with it. Go on - make one more reply to get the last word. I am off this thread for now. This is not an admission of defeat, just of weariness.

[Gordon]

It's relevant in a loosely conversational way.

LR's statement about 'many people' is an obvious ad pop though, since it is solely an appeal to numbers without any other form of justification that supports a claim that Trump has mental health issues (even if 'many people' do indeed think that he has).

Whether he has mental health issues or not is irrelevant to this 'many people' claim, since the claim is not an informed one.   

[Roses]

I wonder if some publisher would consider bringing out a Trump comic? If it was well done I suspect it would have a large readership.

[jeremyp]

Not an argument made by LR, so irrelevant to my point. And in terms of that argument, there are lots of qualified people saying he does not

If you’re going to split hairs, LR made a statement of opinion, not fact so she doesn’t have to bring cast iron proof to the table.

[Roses]

If you’re going to split hairs, LR made a statement of opinion, not fact so she doesn’t have to bring cast iron proof to the table.

Thankyou.

[Nearly Sane]

If you’re going to split hairs, LR made a statement of opinion, not fact so she doesn’t have to bring cast iron proof to the table.

Didn't ask her to do so.

[Roses]

Look this discussion about Trump's sanity could go on until the cows come home or Biden takes over the White House. We should just leave that for now and concentrate on how long it is likely to be before Trump concedes.

[jeremyp]

Look this discussion about Trump's sanity could go on until the cows come home or Biden takes over the White House. We should just leave that for now and concentrate on how long it is likely to be before Trump concedes.

He’s a clinical psychopath. He’s not going to concede ever. Fortunately, he doesn’t have to. On January 20th at midday he will cease to be president automatically.

[Harrowby Hall]

If he does not try to engineer a coup before that ...

More seriously, however, if he makes no attempt to allow the Biden administration the opportunity to acclimatise itself to the realities of being the Executive branch in the US federal government his reputation - even among his own supporters - will be trashed.

A thought that has occurred  to once or twice: is he sufficiently disturbed as to be likely to commit suicide?

[SteveH]

A thought that has occurred  to once or twice: is he sufficiently disturbed as to be likely to commit suicide?

With any luck...

[Nearly Sane]

With any luck...

Trump is not my favourite person, and should he have broken laws then I hope he is prosecuted but wishing that he might commit suicide feels distasteful.

[Owlswing]

 Trump is not my favourite person, and should he have broken laws then I hope he is prosecuted but wishing that he might commit suicide feels distasteful.

Distasteful to you it might be but I will guarantee that a huge number of people would breathe a huge and heartfelt sigh of relief!

Me included! In fact, I might actually crack a bottle of Mead in order to drink a toast to his finally doing something positive for the rest of the world other than, or possibly including, his family.

Owlswing

)O(

P S - personal opinion - approval neither sought nor required!