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Re: President Trump
« Reply #2475 on: February 12, 2025, 09:30:28 AM »
Money and politics should not mix.
Being sent by God?  He tells the end from the beginning. Where is it in the bible that God was sending Trump?
We know God knows every leader who will come upon earth,
Why would he tell someone to let his people go and stop the person letting them go? Doesn't make sense.
We have to rethink things.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #2476 on: February 13, 2025, 10:30:09 AM »
Trump just made an ever bigger war in Europe even more likely.
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« Reply #2477 on: February 13, 2025, 10:36:32 AM »
Trump just made an ever bigger war in Europe even more likely.
Not sure it does that, but it does look like Ukraine might not exist in 5 years

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #2478 on: February 14, 2025, 10:27:50 PM »
The leaders of the two countries with the most nuclear weapons are now on speaking terms - how can that be anything but good news?

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« Reply #2479 on: February 14, 2025, 10:40:34 PM »
The leaders of the two countries with the most nuclear weapons are now on speaking terms - how can that be anything but good news?

What could possibly go wrong with two lunatics in the same room?
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« Reply #2480 on: February 14, 2025, 10:51:25 PM »
The leaders of the two countries with the most nuclear weapons are now on speaking terms - how can that be anything but good news?
Since one may no longer provide the nuclear umbrella, more people are going to want their own. Do you think Sweden, Ukraine, Finland , Germany and Poland are incapable?
Ukraine only doesn't have one, as far as I can tell because of American support and Russian assurances.
We shouldn't be over impressed just because of strategic use of God Talk.

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« Reply #2481 on: February 15, 2025, 12:00:27 AM »
Since one may no longer provide the nuclear umbrella, more people are going to want their own. Do you think Sweden, Ukraine, Finland , Germany and Poland are incapable?
Ukraine only doesn't have one, as far as I can tell because of American support and Russian assurances.
We shouldn't be over impressed just because of strategic use of God Talk.
eh?

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« Reply #2482 on: February 15, 2025, 04:53:25 PM »
Since one may no longer provide the nuclear umbrella,
Are you referring to NATO or ukraine?
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Ukraine only doesn't have one, as far as I can tell because of American support and Russian assurances.
It never had any that it could use in the first place, and Russia wouldn't allow it to develop them or have them on its territory. That's why the war started: the Biden administration refused to rule out putting US missiles in Ukraine.

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« Reply #2483 on: February 17, 2025, 03:43:34 AM »
Definitely not a cult, folks! Yet another firm measure to bring down the price of eggs.😂
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« Reply #2484 on: February 17, 2025, 11:24:52 AM »
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« Reply #2485 on: February 17, 2025, 11:40:32 AM »
'You' not 'we'. 'Believe' not 'know'.

Nah Maeght,

Sorry if you took offence none meant. Speaking to believer too. :)
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« Reply #2486 on: February 17, 2025, 11:42:07 AM »
Trump just made an ever bigger war in Europe even more likely.

Why? Do you think the anti-Christ will only effect Europe. A bit of a bold statement would you not think?
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« Reply #2487 on: February 17, 2025, 11:43:29 AM »
The leaders of the two countries with the most nuclear weapons are now on speaking terms - how can that be anything but good news?

I would worry when China and Russia march down the hills of Jerusalem. Maybe, America sick of them all so warning them off.
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« Reply #2488 on: February 17, 2025, 11:47:25 AM »
Why? Do you think the anti-Christ will only effect Europe. A bit of a bold statement would you not think?

I don't think anyone has defined Trump as the anti-Christ, although he will undoubtedly affect more than just Europe. His decimation of USAid is very concerning for Africa given the amount of work they do on prevention of diseases on that continent. Trump is going to have the death of many, many people on his conscience.

Well, that is if he had one.
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« Reply #2489 on: February 17, 2025, 11:48:14 AM »
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Raiders of the lost ark came to mind. LOL
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« Reply #2490 on: February 17, 2025, 01:56:06 PM »
Why? Do you think the anti-Christ will only effect Europe. A bit of a bold statement would you not think?

What?
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« Reply #2491 on: February 17, 2025, 04:42:16 PM »
Why? Do you think the anti-Christ will only effect Europe. A bit of a bold statement would you not think?

The emperor Nero lived in a time when transport much further than Europe and the Mediterranean was problematic. Certainly, the Roman army's reach was limited by their lack of technology.
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« Reply #2492 on: February 18, 2025, 08:43:13 AM »
To those of you who claim that maybe Trump , Musk et al are not fascists, this is a thought-provoking piece:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/17/the-new-world-order-is-exactly-what-it-looks-like-are-we-too-frozen-with-fear-to-name-it

Me? 

I'm one of the guys at the end looking away, pretending it is not happening, frozen.

More definitive proof that God doesn't exist - he/she/it would surely help now? Wouldn't they? Or are they just as heartless as the monster they created?


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« Reply #2493 on: February 18, 2025, 09:00:18 AM »
To those of you who claim that maybe Trump , Musk et al are not fascists, this is a thought-provoking piece:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/17/the-new-world-order-is-exactly-what-it-looks-like-are-we-too-frozen-with-fear-to-name-it

Me? 

I'm one of the guys at the end looking away, pretending it is not happening, frozen.

More definitive proof that God doesn't exist - he/she/it would surely help now? Wouldn't they? Or are they just as heartless as the monster they created?
Are you saying this is not a problem devised entirely by humanity? I see it as evidence of sin and evil and I should imagine, so do you.

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« Reply #2494 on: February 18, 2025, 09:09:11 AM »
To those of you who claim that maybe Trump , Musk et al are not fascists, this is a thought-provoking piece:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/17/the-new-world-order-is-exactly-what-it-looks-like-are-we-too-frozen-with-fear-to-name-it

Me? 

I'm one of the guys at the end looking away, pretending it is not happening, frozen.

More definitive proof that God doesn't exist - he/she/it would surely help now? Wouldn't they? Or are they just as heartless as the monster they created?
As one of those who doesn't think they are fascist, the article annoys me. It misrepresents entirely my, and a lot of other's position,  on this by seeking to portray the idea that they might not be fascist as ignoring a problem. Rather I think the problem is given a click by calling it fascist when it isn't. Calling something fascist when it's not just allows the problem actions to be protected by easy illustrations of non fascist actions and ideology. This form of populism is much more flexible than fascist, and it's also helped by portraying any concerns that may be valid in terms of foreign policy, immigration, social policy, energy policy as inherently right wing.

This is a much harder problem and fight than one to be addressed with a label, and can't be done just by oppisitionalism, and a lack of recognition of real problems.

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« Reply #2495 on: February 18, 2025, 09:47:37 AM »
Are you saying this is not a problem devised entirely by humanity? I see it as evidence of sin and evil and I should imagine, so do you.

Given the abundance of Christian nationalist support that helped slide his unctuous bulk into the White House, I see sin as part of the problem, too, but probably not in the same way that you do.

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« Reply #2496 on: February 18, 2025, 07:01:36 PM »
Are you saying this is not a problem devised entirely by humanity? I see it as evidence of sin and evil and I should imagine, so do you.

Are you saying that God didn't devise humanity?
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« Reply #2497 on: February 19, 2025, 09:41:38 AM »
To those of you who claim that maybe Trump , Musk et al are not fascists, this is a thought-provoking piece:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/17/the-new-world-order-is-exactly-what-it-looks-like-are-we-too-frozen-with-fear-to-name-it

Me? 

I'm one of the guys at the end looking away, pretending it is not happening, frozen.

More definitive proof that God doesn't exist - he/she/it would surely help now? Wouldn't they? Or are they just as heartless as the monster they created?

I'm claiming they aren't fascists. Free speech is the freedom all the others depend on. Three short videos that go some way to explaining why I, and some of the other women I’ve been working with in defence of women’s rights, no longer trust the “left” to tell us what to think, or sign up to what Zoe Williams calls the "post-war consensus".

Spiked interview discussing recent events in Germany:

https://youtu.be/hHASwKtcboU?feature=shared

Megyn Kelley reviewing a 60 Minutes about oppressive German law:

https://youtu.be/cEpYqnr61Zo?feature=shared

Douglas Murray, opining on why we are where we are:

https://youtu.be/J_DOKRDRJzA?feature=shared

I expect the AfD to do very well in the German election.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #2498 on: February 19, 2025, 10:37:52 AM »
Yeah. I get it. The system isn't working well for people. So you think smashing it to pieces is the way to go. I love people who think millionaires who grab women by the pussy are the one's who have the answers to all the world's problems. If you aren't scared at what is happening with Trump, Musk. Putin, etc . I have to ask  why the fuck aren't you?
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« Reply #2499 on: February 19, 2025, 11:03:41 AM »
Yeah. I get it. The system isn't working well for people. So you think smashing it to pieces is the way to go. I love people who think millionaires who grab women by the pussy are the one's who have the answers to all the world's problems. If you aren't scared at what is happening with Trump, Musk. Putin, etc . I have to ask  why the fuck aren't you?

Where did I say that Trump, Musk and Putin have the "answers to all the world's problems"? I've also been accused of "clinging" to Trump on here. If you could provide relevant quotes, that'd be good.
I'm concerned about things that are actually happening, now, and that the people and institutions I used to trust are either promoting or lying about. Trump is a symptom of the establishment's failure.
Why isn't the system "working well for people"? Why is there an upsurge in support for Trump, AfD, Reform? Why didn't coercing people into silence rather than letting them express obnoxious opinions eradicate racism, sexism and homophobia?
I'm done with being lectured about what 'good' is by people who think it's progressive to lock a woman in a cell with a rapist.
Bad ideas need exposing and challenging, not silencing.