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Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« on: March 21, 2017, 08:27:29 AM »
I wonder how many only found out the revelation on the thread about Chuck Berry by Googling?

I never knew about the above things but I am not sure how it takes away from his death as a musician and artist.
We need to remember that Jerry Lee Lewis married a 13 year old girl as the laws in some American states allowed this.
His career ended over night.  Never charged with anything but literally his career ended in England over night.

Everything, as far as I am aware has changed now in the USA. In some countries girls as young as 9 years of age are married to much older men. We as a nation clearly have double standards... our charities ask us to support them to stop those girls dying.
Then they allow those men and child brides into this country. It is my belief if something illegal here that they should be arrested if they break our laws by bringing that child bride with them and having sexual relations.

If we could not accommodate the actions of those things in the 60's we are surely not going to accommodate them today.

What I find extremely difficult is a friend of mine is married to a man who comes to visit her and the children they have a couple of times a year. He lands at different airports and he has already taken his two children to his own country for visits.
His daughter became very poorly on one of those visits and there was talk he would take her over to his country to choose a husband when she was 9 years old.  I found it very disturbing as she is a British Citizen and protected by English law.

Why is he not allowed to remain in this country? Why does he use different airports and why hasn't her British mother informed the authorities. When he was here for Christmas the children were not allowed to celebrate the holiday and did not get any toys because he was here.

I am truly concerned about such things. If a mother allows her children to travel alone with their Father and he is looking for husbands at such a young age, surely it is time for the authorities to step in?

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2017, 08:31:47 AM »
Berry was a pervert so that is what defines him, imo!  >:(

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2017, 08:51:40 AM »
Berry was a pervert so that is what defines him, imo!  >:(

So does the define Jerry Lee Lewis whose marriage was legal in some states of America?

Who made the laws who made these men perverts?  Why are we still entertaining people from countries who are having sex with 9 year olds and getting them pregnant and then their country asks us to pay to save them?

Surely there has to be international laws preventing those who do these things can be arrested on our soil if they do it here.
Jerry Lee Lewis wasn't arrested. We need to protect ALL children on our soil and the law should allow for our Country to detain the child bride of such men and prevent them returning till adulthood if they want to return.
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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2017, 09:30:16 AM »
Never heard of Jerry Lee Lewis.

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2017, 09:40:12 AM »
Never heard of Jerry Lee Lewis.

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2017, 10:23:35 AM »
I was not aware that Jerry Lee Lewis's career ended overnight. I thought that it had stumbled a little but he has been a successful performer in the USA for decades.

Why doesn't Sassy get equally upset about an unmarried young woman of a similar age who became pregnant about two thousand years agosomewhere in the Middle East?
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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2017, 10:24:19 AM »
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(Not meant as a pun) A JOINT JAW DROP WITH YOU Trent?

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2017, 10:26:56 AM »
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Why should I have heard of him?

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2017, 10:29:57 AM »
(Not meant as a pun) A JOINT JAW DROP WITH YOU Trent?

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2017, 10:31:16 AM »
Why should I have heard of him?

As has just been posted.

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2017, 10:35:57 AM »
As has just been posted.

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Great Balls of Fire, what is that?

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2017, 10:37:37 AM »
Great Balls of Fire, what is that?

There's a whole lot of shaking of heads going on from other readers.

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2017, 10:39:22 AM »
Goodness, Gracious I am finding it hard to believe that you are not aware of this song - but if it is truly the case then perhaps you have been residing in an alternate universe I am unaware of. Apologies.

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2017, 10:46:30 AM »
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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2017, 10:56:06 AM »
- Explains a lot. I can't believe Floo's so 'sheltered'.
I loved his work with Dean Martin the most !

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2017, 11:11:38 AM »
- Explains a lot. I can't believe Floo's so 'sheltered'.

You've never been to Guernsey, then. When I first went to Jersey I commented that it was like England was 20 years ago. I was told that I should go to Guernsey - it's like Jersey was 20 years ago ...   ::)
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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2017, 11:14:40 AM »
I loved his work with Dean Martin the most !


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Yep. Dat ice cream were great, innit?
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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2017, 11:14:58 AM »
You've never been to Guernsey, then. When I first went to Jersey I commented that it was like England was 20 years ago. I was told that I should go to Guernsey - it's like Jersey was 20 years ago ...   ::)

Yeah but isn't Floo in Wales now?

Although I suppose some wag could argue that Wales is like England was 20 years ago  ;)
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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2017, 11:35:07 AM »
Goodness, Gracious I am finding it hard to believe that you are not aware of this song - but if it is truly the case then perhaps you have been residing in an alternate universe I am unaware of. Apologies.

FYI

https://youtu.be/rARVtbfAB8g

What a ghastly noise! :o I don't like music especially pop, but will tolerate classical as my husband enjoys it.

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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2017, 11:48:17 AM »
- Explains a lot. I can't believe Floo's so 'sheltered'.

Sheltered, that is hilarious. Growing up after the war in an island, which had been occupied by the Germans, it was hardly sheltered. Times without number I have nearly lost my life due to getting myself into a very dangerous situations, or having them imposed on me. Like when I was two and my crazy young uncles, who were supposed to be babysitting me, decided to take me with them when they were going to do a very stupid and dangerous diving stunt! >:( They had me sitting on a rock at the top of a steep cliff, from where dived into the sea below. They told me not to move from the rock as I would have undoubtedly have joined them! My mother would have skinned them alive if she had known, saying, "What would people think if she had been killed." One of my mother's major concerns was what people were thinking! ::)

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2017, 11:58:32 AM »
I'd read about Chuck Berry's earlier activities a while ago and wished I hadn't known but already  mentioned that on his RIP thread.

Re Jerry Lee, he was from an area where kids did marry very young. Think of the C&W singer Loretta Lynn (Coalminer's Daugter) who married at 14 and had four  kids by 19. From what I know it was legal to marry in Ireland at 14 until recently. So Jerry Lee didn't do anything wrong by the rules of the times he lived in but it was frowned upon over here and seems wrong now. Jerry Lee did at least love and marry her, by all accounts she always loved him back.

Elvis brought his wife Priscilla over to Gracelands to live when she was only 14/15 and they married when she was 21.

Pop and rock singers & musicians used to doexactly  what they wanted. Bill Wyman had a long time girlfriend who was 13 when they first got together. Sick. The law did nothing!They used to boast about their udnerage girls & had no conscience about them.Even Bowie apparently.  Nowadays the 'stars' are better behaved.

I separate Chuck Berry's behaviour from his great talent but still wish I hadn't known.

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2017, 11:59:38 AM »
What a ghastly noise! :o I don't like music especially pop, but will tolerate classical as my husband enjoys it.

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2017, 12:02:35 PM »
You are a strange and mysterious being.

Have you only just realised that? The mould was broken when I emerged into the world. ;D

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2017, 12:04:12 PM »
You are a strange and mysterious being.


I suspect anhedonia

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2017, 12:11:44 PM »
Marvellous word which i will use from now on.
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