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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2017, 12:11:44 PM »
I derive a lot of pleasure from life, thank you! My family and hobbies do it for me! You seem to get pleasure creating a vast number of threads on this forum, NS. ;D

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2017, 12:19:15 PM »
I derive a lot of pleasure from life, thank you! My family and hobbies do it for me! You seem to get pleasure creating a vast number of threads on this forum, NS. ;D
but you don't from a number of things that people normally enjoy. Anhedonia is like most things mental a spectrum.

I have previously explained why I create lots of threads to you.

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2017, 12:22:42 PM »
Marvellous word which i will use from now on.
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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2017, 01:03:14 PM »
There;s a blast from past. Never seen it but taken note forwhen it is next on TV (my TV is working again,praise be, everything went wrong a few days ago inc. computer).

Floo probably does take pleaseure from things, just different things & she's quite fun from what I;ve seen. I have met people who hardly even knew anything about Elvis or Beatles even though they were kids at the time. Seems odd but it happens. My parents remember Vera Lynn& Glen Miller with affection but they did manage to move on.

However......let's get back to Chuck and his ilk &  "Is/are there doubl standards in this country?" ::) . I'd think not,just some are disappointed and bewildered but there's nothing new under the sun, a sentence someone famous once said in an old book........

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2017, 01:42:28 PM »
There;s a blast from past. Never seen it but taken note forwhen it is next on TV (my TV is working again,praise be, everything went wrong a few days ago inc. computer).

Floo probably does take pleaseure from things, just different things & she's quite fun from what I;ve seen. I have met people who hardly even knew anything about Elvis or Beatles even though they were kids at the time. Seems odd but it happens. My parents remember Vera Lynn& Glen Miller with affection but they did manage to move on.

However......let's get back to Chuck and his ilk &  "Is/are there doubl standards in this country?" ::) . I'd think not,just some are disappointed and bewildered but there's nothing new under the sun, a sentence someone famous once said in an old book........
daylight is new , the sun makes the photons .  8)

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2017, 01:46:32 PM »
Yeah but isn't Floo in Wales now?

Although I suppose some wag could argue that Wales is like England was 20 years ago  ;)
I've been to Wales, its more like 40  ;)

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« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2017, 02:05:09 PM »
but you don't from a number of things that people normally enjoy. Anhedonia is like most things mental a spectrum.

I have previously explained why I create lots of threads to you.

Why do I have to enjoy music? My lack of enjoyment of it doesn't make me mentally ill, as you appear to be implying, than you are for creating so many threads, the rationale behind which I still don't get!

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2017, 02:21:52 PM »
Why do I have to enjoy music? My lack of enjoyment of it doesn't make me mentally ill, as you appear to be implying, than you are for creating so many threads, the rationale behind which I still don't get!

I don't think you have to like music or that you are mentally ill. Just as I don't think that someone with dyslexia is mentally ill. I suspect that you hear things differently to most people because from your description it sounds like the music causes you pain.

Last time you asked about the threads, I explained and you said you understood. Has that changed?

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2017, 02:38:53 PM »
I'd read about Chuck Berry's earlier activities a while ago and wished I hadn't known but already  mentioned that on his RIP thread.

Re Jerry Lee, he was from an area where kids did marry very young. Think of the C&W singer Loretta Lynn (Coalminer's Daugter) who married at 14 and had four  kids by 19. From what I know it was legal to marry in Ireland at 14 until recently. So Jerry Lee didn't do anything wrong by the rules of the times he lived in but it was frowned upon over here and seems wrong now. Jerry Lee did at least love and marry her, by all accounts she always loved him back.

Elvis brought his wife Priscilla over to Gracelands to live when she was only 14/15 and they married when she was 21.

Pop and rock singers & musicians used to doexactly  what they wanted. Bill Wyman had a long time girlfriend who was 13 when they first got together. Sick. The law did nothing!They used to boast about their udnerage girls & had no conscience about them.Even Bowie apparently.  Nowadays the 'stars' are better behaved.

I separate Chuck Berry's behaviour from his great talent but still wish I hadn't known.

For anyone who's interested here's the age of marriage in the US according to each state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States
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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2017, 02:57:33 PM »
I don't think you have to like music or that you are mentally ill. Just as I don't think that someone with dyslexia is mentally ill. I suspect that you hear things differently to most people because from your description it sounds like the music causes you pain.

Last time you asked about the threads, I explained and you said you understood. Has that changed?

Pop music certainly does my head in that is for sure. It is strange really, as my  Father was very musical, he even went on a tour of the States in 1961 with choir. My sisters and my daughters are also very musical. My mother and I missed out on it.

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2017, 03:07:47 PM »
Pop music certainly does my head in that is for sure. It is strange really, as my  Father was very musical, he even went on a tour of the States in 1961 with choir. My sisters and my daughters are also very musical. My mother and I missed out on it.

Is there some popular music that are worse than others?

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2017, 03:09:07 PM »
Thanks for the info about marriageable age in various states of US, ad-orientum.
I looked up Ireland (used to be 14 with parental consent),but can't find upto date information.
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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2017, 03:18:35 PM »
Is there some popular music that are worse than others?
I like both kinds of music , country AND western.

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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2017, 03:19:52 PM »
Is there some popular music that are worse than others?

I suppose some is better than others, but I never listen to any of  it.

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2017, 03:25:25 PM »
I suppose some is better than others, but I never listen to any of  it.
Just interested if it might be something physical about your hearing.

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« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2017, 03:40:01 PM »
Just interested if it might be something physical about your hearing.
I'm guessing its something irrational , like my intense dislike to James Cordon. I mute my TV and look away when THAT advert comes on and I've never even met him .

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« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2017, 03:50:06 PM »
Just interested if it might be something physical about your hearing.

My hearing isn't good in my old age, but it was fine in my youth.

Some posters on forums think I am weird! Yes I say what I think and make no apology for that. I don't suck up to people or pay compliments I don't mean, as I suspect some posters do.

However, funnily enough people who know me in real life, instead of the unreal virtual cyber-world, seem to rate me. I do my best to help others if I can, not that I need any accolades for that at all, I am just being me.

I am fortunate enough to have wonderful children, I enjoy my hobbies, particularly my artwork, which people seem to like. It gives me a lot of pleasure to create a picture, for free, just to make someone happy.

I have never tried to fit in or belong to the crowd, I have always stood apart from it, as that is how I am.

Anyway that is me, far from perfection, but as long as I am good enough, that is all that counts.
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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2017, 03:58:45 PM »
My hearing isn't good in my old age, but it was fine in my youth.

Some posters on forums think I am weird! Yes I say what I think and make no apology for that. I don't suck up to people or pay compliments I don't mean, as I suspect some posters do.

However, funnily enough people who know me in real life, instead of the unreal virtual cyber-world, seem to rate me. I do my best to help others if I can, not that I need any accolades for that at all, I am just being me.

I am fortunate enough to have wonderful children, I enjoy my hobbies, particularly my artwork, which people seem to like. It gives me a lot of pleasure to create a picture, for free, just to make someone happy.

I have never tried to fit in or belong to the crowd, I have always stood apart from it, as that is how I am.

Anyway that is me, far from perfection, but as long as I am good enough, that is all that counts.


The point about your hearing isn't about whether you can hear but how you  hear it. Your description makes it sound like you are hearing sonething different to most people like someone who is colour blind. And again someone being colourblind isn't a comnent on them
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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2017, 04:02:57 PM »
About time we left floo alone, she's not hurting us. We come in different shapes,colours & sizes, thats what makes the human race intersting.
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« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2017, 04:08:03 PM »

The point about yiur hearing isn't about whether you can hear but how you  hear it. Your description makes it sound lije you are hearing sonething different to most people like someone who is colour blind. And again someone being colourblind isn't a comnent on them

Talking of colour blindness, which appears to be more common in men, it is red/green which gives them problems. If a woman is colour blind she has difficulty with a range of colours, so I believe. According to my father his great grandmother had great difficulty distinguishing a range of different colours, they all appeared to be the same to her, poor woman. :(

Blimey this thread has gone way off topic, probably my fault! :-[

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2017, 04:17:21 PM »
Talking of colour blindness, which appears to be more common in men, it is red/green which gives them problems. If a woman is colour blind she has difficulty with a range of colours, so I believe. According to my father his great grandmother had great difficulty distinguishing a range of different colours, they all appeared to be the same to her, poor woman. :(

Blimey this thread has gone way off topic, probably my fault! :-[

Nah, I think that was probably mine. I find the idea of not liking music very difficult to comprehend. Anyhoo good to know that you are enjoying life .


Back on track, it seems odd to me that the various issues during Berry's life were not more well known.

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2017, 05:26:26 PM »

I suspect anhedonia

Is he Welsh?

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2017, 07:42:52 PM »

Back on track, it seems odd to me that the various issues during Berry's life were not more well known.

I thought they were quite well known. I'm actually quite surprised at how everybody is glossing over his conviction and imprisonment.
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« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2017, 07:51:28 PM »
I thought they were quite well known. I'm actually quite surprised at how everybody is glossing over his conviction and imprisonment.
I thought they were well known too but the reaction on here seems to be indicative that they weren't.

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Re: Chuck Berry... is there double standards in this Country???
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2017, 08:03:23 PM »
I'm guessing its something irrational , like my intense dislike to James Cordon. I mute my TV and look away when THAT advert comes on and I've never even met him .

It does not appear to be very common, but there is a condition called anhedonia - which is related to a dislike of pleasure. It exists in a number of states including sexual anhedonia. One version is called specific musical anhedonia . People with this condition just don't get music - it has little or no meaning for them. I have a friend for whom this is the case. I suspect that Floo is simply someone with this condition.
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