Lost for words

[ad_orientem]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39337805

Mind you, the last bit made me chuckle. "John Pilley, also known as Jane Anne, made legal history in 1999 when he became the first inmate in England and Wales to be granted permission for a sex change operation....It was later reported he decided to become a man again and was waiting to have his second operation on the NHS."

Fucked up, anyway.

[Walter]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39337805

Mind you, the last bit made me chuckle. "John Pilley, also known as Jane Anne, made legal history in 1999 when he became the first inmate in England and Wales to be granted permission for a sex change operation....It was later reported he decided to become a man again and was waiting to have his second operation on the NHS."

Fucked up, anyway.

unfortunately the penis was reattached the wrong way round, now he doesn't know if he's coming or going.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

There is a poster on the Grauniad boards who describes themselves as a "transgendered lesbian".

[Walter]

There is a poster on the Grauniad boards who describes themselves as a "transgendered lesbian".

we should now accept, with all due respect , those who claim

'I'm a little teapot'

[Aruntraveller]

One does wonder if you are lost for words why you bothered to comment.

That's me done with this board.

You can all talk your offensive nonsense to each other and feel very proud of yourself at how very witty you are.

Bye all.

Those that are bothered know where to find me.

[floo]

One does wonder if you are lost for words why you bothered to comment.

That's me done with this board.

You can all talk your offensive nonsense to each other and feel very proud of yourself at how very witty you are.

Bye all.

Those that are bothered know where to find me.

I hope you reconsider, TV, you are one of the good guys, unlike some!

[Walter]

One does wonder if you are lost for words why you bothered to comment.

That's me done with this board.

You can all talk your offensive nonsense to each other and feel very proud of yourself at how very witty you are.

Bye all.

Those that are bothered know where to find me.

oh dear ,
handbags at dawn ,Trent.  Lighten up, have a laugh and have a nice day.
No offence...

[floo]

oh dear ,
handbags at dawn ,Trent.  Lighten up, have a laugh and have a nice day.
No offence...

Walter you are a very unpleasant piece of work, I wish you would do this forum a favour and remove yourself.

[Walter]

Walter you are a very unpleasant piece of work, I wish you would do this forum a favour and remove yourself.

aww Floo,

now you've made me blush   

[ad_orientem]

One does wonder if you are lost for words why you bothered to comment.

That's me done with this board.

You can all talk your offensive nonsense to each other and feel very proud of yourself at how very witty you are.

Bye all.

Those that are bothered know where to find me.

There's plenty to be concerned about. Firstly that people who have raped women are being put into womens prisons. Secondly, that these operations are being done on the NHS and therefore at the taxpayers expence. And how many times is one allowed to go back and forth? All it shows is that such people don't need operations but rather psychiatric help.

When I was a kid we had one word for such people "perverts", along with nonces and other such wierdos.

[Anchorman]

ad-o; With respect. I hope you don't have the same word for them now. Such words can lead to bullyimng, and bullying to suicide.

[Nearly Sane]

ad-o; With respect. I hope you don't have the same word for them now. Such words can lead to bullyimng, and bullying to suicide.

Indeed, Anchorman, there is a good discussion to be had on transgender issues but it won't happen if people think that sniggering about it at the back of the class is contributing to the discussion. As the link covers this has lead to suicide.

[floo]

Indeed, Anchorman, there is a good discussion to be had on transgender issues but it won't happen if people think that sniggering about it at the back of the class is contributing to the discussion. As the link covers this has lead to suicide.

Agreed.

[Anchorman]

OK, in for a penny..... I'm robust enough to declare openly that, due to a genetic problem, I have no sex drive. I'm male (at least I hope I am, 'cos this beard's hard to explain sometimes...), but that's about it. I have rudimentary sex organs - and have been reluctant to discuss it - for the very reasons some have laughed off on this thread. Have I been bullied? You bet - not only because of that, but the hormone imbalance means I can't lose weight either - and that, let me tell you, is a hellish thing if you're a teenager,. The bullying was verbal - and physical as well, so I can empathise with those who are driven over the edge. It might be fine having a giggle in the locker room, but let me tell you from personal experience that it can hurt. I sincerely hope TV reconsiders his decision.

[Nearly Sane]

Anchorman, thank you for that incredibly brave post. As ever, I find your post filled with compassion and understanding.

[Robbie]

Me too. As a poster of short acquaintance, my respect for Anchor is huge & growing daily.

[Gordon]

I think, Jim, as is often the case, you've hit the nail on the head.

Gender matters are fundamentally about people, and people aren't just whatever gender-related labels or pejoratives that some may apply to them (often unkindly). Far better to be aware of how people are personally affected by gender matters, as you've just told us.

[floo]

Anchorman I think you are really brave too, and deserve a HUGE amount of respect. I hope there are no more snide, bullying comments on this topic. 

[Gordon]

I hope there are no more snide, bullying comments on this topic.

I hope so too, Floo.

[wigginhall]

Well done, Jim, on your honesty and bravery.   Come on, Trent, don't let a few pathetic bigots drive you away.   They exist on most forums, but they can be combated.   How truly pathetic to pick on vulnerable people like that. 

[ad_orientem]

Well done, Jim, on your honesty and bravery.   Come on, Trent, don't let a few pathetic bigots drive you away.   They exist on most forums, but they can be combated.   How truly pathetic to pick on vulnerable people like that.

The article is about a rapist of women who, now that he thinks is a woman and has been made to look like one, is doing time in a women's prison. There is another issue as well which is, should the the taxpayer be forking out for such operations in the first place?

To be honest, if I came across such a person I'd probably run a mile.

[wigginhall]

The article is about a rapist of women who, now that he thinks is a woman and has been made to look like one, is doing time in a women's prison. There is another issue as well which is, should the the taxpayer be forking out for such operations in the first place?

To be honest, if I came across such a person I'd probably run a mile.

I don't believe you.   You want to vent your bigoted views, well, OK, you are allowed to, as others are allowed to point out your bigotry and bullying tactics.

[Robbie]

I think adorientum's post deserves some attention, we've stated how we feel about sniggering etc but sniggering apart, if someone is pretending to be what they are nto in order to be able to commit abuse, its a diffrent matter algtogether & that was the point of the op.

[Nearly Sane]

The article is about a rapist of women who, now that he thinks is a woman and has been made to look like one, is doing time in a women's prison. There is another issue as well which is, should the the taxpayer be forking out for such operations in the first place?

To be honest, if I came across such a person I'd probably run a mile.

And in your remark about perverts, nonces and weirdos you made a much more general point and in a tone that read as if you regretted not being able to bully people by calling them names any more.

If you can't read Anchorman's post and see the problem, I feel pity for you.

[ad_orientem]

I don't believe you.   You want to vent your bigoted views, well, OK, you are allowed to, as others are allowed to point out your bigotry and bullying tactics.

Believe what the bloody hell you want, pal! It makes not one jot of difference to me.