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Read my signature below.Rationalism leads to Protestantism leads to atheism.
Yes, in order to be a theist, you have to be irrational. Can't argue with that....
There is a difference between being rational and rationalism.
Read my signature below.
I don't think there can be progressive Christianity any more than there can be a progressive science or a progressive second French republic.Christ is about as progressive as you can get.
You mean dead!!!
He could be as dead as anything and still be a better man than any.
So, for Christians, being brain dead is better than being intelligent, rational and alive?
Jack,Not only does Vlad think that, he lives by it!
I rather think Jack, that we are at the point where you either believe Jesus death achieved something........or you don't.
Vlad,No, that's not the point you're at at all. I'm quite content to think that there was a Jesus (or someone of a different name) and that he (or several "hes" whose stories were later incorporated) existed, and that he/they was/were a charismatic street preacher(s)/conjuror(s)/soothsayer(s) etc (though not of course a genuine miracle performer(s)) and that their stories subsequently were written down, re-translated and heavily edited by people with vested interests in the outcome and that those stoires then happened to catch the wind more by happenstance then design did indeed achieve something - albeit no necessarily a positive something.Will that do?
This thread started off well but is now so dreadful, dreary and pointless, i'm surprised anyone is bothering to respond because they are not saying anything.
You'll have to take that up with him.
Vlad,I can't - he's dead.
And resurrected.
Vladd,So I'm told some people believe. Weird innit?
It is unusual.