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john

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Progressive Christianity
« on: March 24, 2017, 09:40:10 AM »
Link here to an interesting article.

The writer says that "progressive Christianity" will lead to the downfall of Christian beliefs.

By the phrase is meant; the diversity of interpretations of beliefs especially as they bend to encompass new historical and scientific findings. 

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/atheology/2017/03/can-progressive-christianity-save-cure-christianity/?utm_source=[!]%20Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NL%20Nonreligious&utm_content=14395
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2017, 12:34:57 PM »
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2017, 12:43:12 PM »
You got it.... That's basically what the article says.  :)
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2017, 12:47:31 PM »
Read my signature below.


Rationalism leads to Protestantism leads to atheism.

Yes, in order to be a theist, you have to be irrational. Can't argue with that....
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2017, 01:00:34 PM »
Yes, in order to be a theist, you have to be irrational. Can't argue with that....

There is a difference between being rational and rationalism.
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2017, 04:32:22 PM »
There is a difference between being rational and rationalism.

Yes but not your speciality area, after all you are a theist.

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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2017, 05:09:25 PM »
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2017, 06:35:49 PM »
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2017, 06:42:43 PM »
I don't think there can be progressive Christianity any more than there can be a progressive science or a progressive second French republic.

Christ is about as progressive as you can get.

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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2017, 06:44:38 PM »
I don't think there can be progressive Christianity any more than there can be a progressive science or a progressive second French republic.

Christ is about as progressive as you can get.
You mean dead!!!  ;D

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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2017, 06:53:33 PM »
I don't think there can be progressive Christianity any more than there can be a progressive science or a progressive second French republic.

Christ is about as progressive as you can get.
I thought he hated the ghey? Or is that just your fellow Christians who you think are wrong? Do you think a person having the homosexual sex is sinning by doing so?

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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2017, 07:02:05 PM »
You mean dead!!!  ;D
He could be as dead as anything and still be a better man than any.

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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2017, 04:52:20 PM »
He could be as dead as anything and still be a better man than any.
So, for Christians, being brain dead is better than being intelligent, rational and alive?

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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2017, 05:18:05 PM »
So, for Christians, being brain dead is better than being intelligent, rational and alive?
I rather think Jack, that we are at the point where you either believe Jesus death achieved something........or you don't.

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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2017, 09:55:51 PM »
This thread started off well but is now so dreadful, dreary and pointless, i'm surprised anyone is bothering to respond because they are not saying anything.
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2017, 10:31:14 PM »
Jack,

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So, for Christians, being brain dead is better than being intelligent, rational and alive?

Not only does Vlad think that, he lives by it!
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2017, 10:35:33 PM »
Jack,

Not only does Vlad think that, he lives by it!
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2017, 10:40:04 PM »
Vlad,

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I rather think Jack, that we are at the point where you either believe Jesus death achieved something........or you don't.

No, that's not the point you're at at all. I'm quite content to think that there was a Jesus (or someone of a different name) and that he (or several "hes" whose stories were later incorporated) existed, and that he/they was/were a charismatic street preacher(s)/conjuror(s)/soothsayer(s) etc (though not of course a genuine miracle performer(s)) and that their stories subsequently were written down, re-translated and heavily edited by people with vested interests in the outcome and that those stoires then happened to catch the wind more by happenstance then design did indeed achieve something - albeit no necessarily a positive something.

Will that do?
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2017, 10:43:00 PM »
Vlad,

No, that's not the point you're at at all. I'm quite content to think that there was a Jesus (or someone of a different name) and that he (or several "hes" whose stories were later incorporated) existed, and that he/they was/were a charismatic street preacher(s)/conjuror(s)/soothsayer(s) etc (though not of course a genuine miracle performer(s)) and that their stories subsequently were written down, re-translated and heavily edited by people with vested interests in the outcome and that those stoires then happened to catch the wind more by happenstance then design did indeed achieve something - albeit no necessarily a positive something.

Will that do?
You'll have to take that up with him.

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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2017, 10:43:18 PM »
Robinson,

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This thread started off well but is now so dreadful, dreary and pointless, i'm surprised anyone is bothering to respond because they are not saying anything.

I agree that it started well, but once we'd established that "progressive Christianity" was just a big steaming heap of confirmation bias I'm not sure that there was anywhere else to go with it was there?
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2017, 10:44:16 PM »
Vlad,

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You'll have to take that up with him.

I can't - he's dead.
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2017, 10:56:59 PM »
Vlad,

I can't - he's dead.
And resurrected.

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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2017, 11:09:02 PM »
Vladd,

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And resurrected.

So I'm told some people believe. Weird innit?
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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2017, 11:14:16 PM »
Vladd,

So I'm told some people believe. Weird innit?
It is unusual.

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Re: Progressive Christianity
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2017, 11:20:37 PM »
Vlad,

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It is unusual.

So's flat earth-ism.

It gets weirder though. Can you believe that some people actually think they're "in a relationship" with him?

I know, I know - I'm not making that up, I promise. 
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