This is the end of the EU...

[Jack Knave]

How interesting.

I have heard this stated before. Could you please outline the precise way in which this is the case - if possible giving examples from both instances?

It is simple. What do you understand by the EU's desire for ever closer union where all the power is situated in Brussels? Remembering that the EU is undemocratic.

[Jack Knave]

Really?

The EU consists of: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, UK.

Out of all on this list, only one is in the throws of trying to achieve an autocratic government.

I think you are confusing the EU with Eurovision!!

See my reply to HH.

[Harrowby Hall]

It is simple. What do you understand by the EU's desire for ever closer union where all the power is situated in Brussels? Remembering that the EU is undemocratic.

In what way is this unsubstantiated assertion an answer to my request from you? I would like you to educate me, not just repeat your rant.

Tell me, what do you actually know about the government structure and systems of the Soviet Union? How are they replicated in the EU?

Your precise words were The EU is an autocratic dictatorship. It is modelled on the USSR ...

Show me the models.

[Jack Knave]

In what way is this unsubstantiated assertion an answer to my request from you? I would like you to educate me, not just repeat your rant.

Tell me, what do you actually know about the government structure and systems of the Soviet Union? How are they replicated in the EU?

Your precise words were The EU is an autocratic dictatorship. It is modelled on the USSR ...

Show me the models.

All you have to do is look at the Lisbon Treaty. There's USSR 2.0.

USSR - controlled from Moscow by a group of elites who were unelected and ruled absolutely, imposing their wet ideological dream (i.e. political project) on the masses and being out of touch with reality, and thereby causing them a huge amount of misery and pain. They tried to control the price of "trackers". It by its nature failed and collapsed.

EU - As above, pretty much, especially their ever closer union project. Only they are in hock with the bankers/central banks who are trying to control the price of money. It is this over control of things that will be their down fall.

By the way this is how the US is run as well, and in fact it is their bankers that are running things globally.

[Harrowby Hall]

All you have to do is look at the Lisbon Treaty. There's USSR 2.0.

USSR - controlled from Moscow by a group of elites who were unelected and ruled absolutely, imposing their wet ideological dream (i.e. political project) on the masses and being out of touch with reality, and thereby causing them a huge amount of misery and pain. They tried to control the price of "trackers". It by its nature failed and collapsed.

EU - As above, pretty much, especially their ever closer union project. Only they are in hock with the bankers/central banks who are trying to control the price of money. It is this over control of things that will be their down fall.

By the way this is how the US is run as well, and in fact it is their bankers that are running things globally.

Do you make up this yourself, Jack, or does somebody write it for you?

You have never read the Lisbon Treaty and you do not know what it contains. Nor have you ever studied the Constitution of the USSR - I happened to study the 1936 version as an undergraduate (this was before the 1977 revision). Perhaps you should take the opportunity to do so.

I should warn you, though. It's harder going than the Beano.

[Jack Knave]

Do you make up this yourself, Jack, or does somebody write it for you?

You have never read the Lisbon Treaty and you do not know what it contains. Nor have you ever studied the Constitution of the USSR - I happened to study the 1936 version as an undergraduate (this was before the 1977 revision). Perhaps you should take the opportunity to do so.

I should warn you, though. It's harder going than the Beano.

I see you don't refute what I'm saying. 

You are talking about the detail there, am going on about the overall structures that look very similar and have similar effects on the populous . The Lisbon Treaty came out of the EU Constitution which was taking it towards, and to, their wet dream of ever closer union. People protested against this pushing of all powers to Brussels and so they changed a few full stops and claimed it was totally not this ever closer union.

If you can't see this it isn't my problem.