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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2017, 05:20:24 PM »
Ehhhhhhhhhh?

Every point in space has its own time.
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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2017, 05:29:51 PM »
Every point in space has its own time.

I have no idea what you are talking about?

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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2017, 06:30:14 PM »
Speaking of time, my watch went in washing machine today before I went out. I couldn't find it & put on another one. When I got home I emptied the washer and there it was,none the worse! This watch is quite a cheap sports watch,I'd have been more concerned had a more expensive one gone on a wash cycle but having said that,I really like the 'drowned' watch and wear it most ofthe time.
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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2017, 06:40:30 PM »
Speaking of time, my watch went in washing machine today before I went out. I couldn't find it & put on another one. When I got home I emptied the washer and there it was,none the worse! This watch is quite a cheap sports watch,I'd have been more concerned had a more expensive one gone on a wash cycle but having said that,I really like the 'drowned' watch and wear it most ofthe time.

I am glad it is still working.

A few months ago, unusually for me didn't check the pockets of my husband's jeans before putting them in the machine, and later discover one ruined mobile phone! When I got told off for my carelessness, the ear bashing he got from me for not checking them himself was probably heard on the moon! ;D

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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2017, 07:25:23 PM »
You can often dry out a mobile phone, upended. I dropped one down the....somewhere....once. It was iffy for a day or so and then worked perfectly, still does.
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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2017, 08:19:43 AM »
You can often dry out a mobile phone, upended. I dropped one down the....somewhere....once. It was iffy for a day or so and then worked perfectly, still does.

His didn't, we had to get him a new one.

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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2017, 09:35:16 AM »
I have no idea what you are talking about?

It means there is no such thing as the exact time.
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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2017, 09:55:17 AM »
There is no such thing though.

For example the time in your kitchen is different to the time in your living room if you measure accurately enough.
If I wanted the exact time I'd definitely come to you.

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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2017, 10:09:34 AM »
If I wanted the exact time I'd definitely come to you.

There is no such thing, that is rather the point!
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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2017, 10:32:37 AM »
It means there is no such thing as the exact time.

Explain

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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2017, 11:12:57 AM »
Explain

every point in space has its own time.

The time at one end of your living room is DIFFERENT to the other end.

For example if you set you watch by the pip sent by radio, this radio wave travelled from the sender to you and took a certain amount of time. Therefore when you heard the pip it was NOT at the same time that it was sent, so you cannot have the same time.

Message take time to travel through space.  When you travel in a car or in plane, time passes slower for you than for someone stationary with respect to you. Time is NOT absolute is the key point.
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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2017, 12:31:44 PM »
every point in space has its own time.

The time at one end of your living room is DIFFERENT to the other end.

For example if you set you watch by the pip sent by radio, this radio wave travelled from the sender to you and took a certain amount of time. Therefore when you heard the pip it was NOT at the same time that it was sent, so you cannot have the same time.

Message take time to travel through space.  When you travel in a car or in plane, time passes slower for you than for someone stationary with respect to you. Time is NOT absolute is the key point.
So what you are saying is that there are things which can only be experienced by individual quarks etc. or is even worse than that?

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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2017, 01:31:04 PM »
So what you are saying is that there are things which can only be experienced by individual quarks etc. or is even worse than that?

Did not mention quarks, just that there is no such thing as absolute time.

As we know, time is relative.
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« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2017, 01:34:24 PM »
every point in space has its own time.

The time at one end of your living room is DIFFERENT to the other end.

For example if you set you watch by the pip sent by radio, this radio wave travelled from the sender to you and took a certain amount of time. Therefore when you heard the pip it was NOT at the same time that it was sent, so you cannot have the same time.

Message take time to travel through space.  When you travel in a car or in plane, time passes slower for you than for someone stationary with respect to you. Time is NOT absolute is the key point.

Hmmmmmmmmmm!

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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2017, 01:36:10 PM »
Hmmmmmmmmmm!

You might now see that time is very complex, and in fact no scientist knows what is really is!

It appears nowhere in any physics.
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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2017, 01:46:33 PM »
You might now see that time is very complex, and in fact no scientist knows what is really is!

It appears nowhere in any physics.

I will have to take your word for it as I flunked science at school.

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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2017, 01:53:52 PM »
I will have to take your word for it as I flunked science at school.

Please do not take my word for it.

Check what scientists who study physics say.

for example Sean Carroll:-

http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2013/10/18/is-time-real/
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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2017, 01:58:52 PM »
Did not mention quarks, just that there is no such thing as absolute time.

As we know, time is relative.
I guess what I'm trying to get at is I accept that time may be different at either ends of my front room....but what about either ends of a quark which is the smallest unitary thing I can think of?

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« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2017, 02:05:50 PM »
I guess what I'm trying to get at is I accept that time may be different at either ends of my front room....but what about either ends of a quark which is the smallest unitary thing I can think of?

Perhaps, but we do not know anything for sure.

They may not be the smallest things, it might be strings
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« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2017, 02:12:50 PM »
Please do not take my word for it.

Check what scientists who study physics say.

for example Sean Carroll:-

http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2013/10/18/is-time-real/

I looked the topic up a few minutes ago, and I apologise for doubting you, :-[ not that I understood the explanations, being thick where science is concerned.

However, I have often wondered if the passage of time is an illusion. The past, present and future are fixed points on a circular base, and we just live doing our bit in the era in which we find ourselves. OK that is probably a crazy notion, but it seems to me as if it could be a possibility.

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« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2017, 02:17:45 PM »
I looked the topic up a few minutes ago, and I apologise for doubting you, :-[ not that I understood the explanations, being thick where science is concerned.

However, I have often wondered if the passage of time is an illusion. The past, present and future are fixed points on a circular base, and we just live doing our bit in the era in which we find ourselves. OK that is probably a crazy notion, but it seems to me as if it could be a possibility.

He also goes on to say in anther lecture, that ALL moments in time are equal, and that they are real, so it might be whatever you were doing at some moment in the past, you will ALWAYS be doing.
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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2017, 02:19:11 PM »
I looked the topic up a few minutes ago, and I apologise for doubting you, :-[ not that I understood the explanations, being thick where science is concerned.

However, I have often wondered if the passage of time is an illusion. The past, present and future are fixed points on a circular base, and we just live doing our bit in the era in which we find ourselves. OK that is probably a crazy notion, but it seems to me as if it could be a possibility.

Not a crazy notion at all and what BeRational said.
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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #47 on: April 05, 2017, 02:33:55 PM »

"Time is great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils" - Berlioz

"Glance into the world just as though time were gone: and everything crooked will become straight to you" - Nietzsche

(just pinched from Carroll's book)

Not sure if time is real - but we all have heartbeats...
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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #48 on: April 05, 2017, 02:36:21 PM »

Not sure if time is real - but we all have heartbeats...

Ooh, now that is something to bend my mind on a Wednesday afternoon.

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Re: And the correct time is...
« Reply #49 on: April 05, 2017, 03:47:16 PM »
Perhaps, but we do not know anything for sure.

They may not be the smallest things, it might be strings
How would something like a string fit in with your theory? Would a string contain the time differential of what you speak?