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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #400 on: February 11, 2022, 09:05:20 AM »
A rare, and very important, find; an embalming cache containing leftovers and used tools from an embalmers' workplace, datinfrom around 620 BC.
https://www.heritagedaily.com/2022/02/archaeologists-unearth-ancient-egyptian-embalming-cache/142739?fbclid=IwAR122dt1whMJdoiONpfUp4aimzTjNaBlvEj-E48_dzveo9l9Yq_rjP9zKDY
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #401 on: February 25, 2022, 11:59:14 AM »
 In any other country, a Roman house would excite historians....but the plaque is stirring my brain cells.
Co-regency wasn't unknown in Egypt - far from it; but this tile shows two kings - both living. There have been papers written about co-regencies in the eighteenth dynasties, but this one was more speculative than anything else.
If there WAS such a co-regency, Amenhotep III must have been a child of three or four years old when this tile was created under the rule of his short-riegn father Thutmose IV.
https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/4/113194/Rare-plaque-4-meter-deep-furnace-a-house-dating-back?fbclid=IwAR0j1f8RJR0cgMQa-1OAU4d7UMjqUiXTeO0_hmWvSCkjr
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #402 on: February 26, 2022, 02:05:37 PM »
 Normally, folk....well, geeks...associate Abusir with pyramids and sun temples dating way back to Egypt's fifth dynasty.
This find shows the site's yse for a further two thousand years; a rare cache of embalming equipment from the Third Intermediate Period.
Good report, and good pics as well.
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/mummy-embalming-egypt-scn/index.html?fbclid=IwAR066XHC0H7NbaYZk85OpUwg5NAIvQjNqg4EEnyteXVhWhfn4p10EOCCxJk
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #403 on: March 18, 2022, 09:07:11 AM »
 The Sinai peninsula was always important to Egypt, from pre dynastic times onward.
Sinai was a source of copper and other minerals, as well as a vital land route to Palestine and the Levant.
The New Kingdom rulers recognised the military potential, building strategic forts to both defend mining colonies and act as staging posts for military expeditions.
A new find of five wells, plus copper smelting facilities, dating from the nineteenth dynasty, and the rule of Seti I, father of Ramesses II, has just been announced.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2022/03/five-pharaonic-wells-uncovered-sinai?fbclid=IwAR3WWvbUe9WK2Z1VS_ihnBDcy6UHuJnCDNsf1c50o0Tbhc0RuWBAUbbHxtc
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #404 on: March 18, 2022, 10:05:33 AM »
.....and there's more.
Well, more from Saqqara, anyway.
Five tombs dating from the end of the Old kingdom and the chaos of the first Intermediate period,from the rule of Merenre I to the 'heralkeopolitan' Dyn VIII Iby, have been found, giving a new insight into the chaos which led to the end of the Old Kingdom and nearly a century of divided rule and civil war.
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/9/40/463002/Antiquities/Ancient-Egypt/In-Photos-Five-ancient-Egyptian-tombs-uncovered-in.aspx?fbclid=IwAR31LXFleVpTKFaHVErBldudG7LNJSfLZu7O-4C2Fm6RVr29zv8yXIXPXSg
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #405 on: March 18, 2022, 12:01:26 PM »
 This one's significant.
By the end of the fourth dynasty, the fashion for building massive pyramids was on the wane.
Kings would still build pyramids - of a sort - for five centuries, but these would be mainly smaller mud brick affairs faced with stone.
Instead, as the religious focus changed from worship of a living god-king  to solar worship, a new type of 'sun temple' was built by successive fifth dynasty kings, each glorifying the sun - Re - and the king who built them.
We only have two reasonably preserved examples of this monument - or at least we thought we had - till now, that is.....
https://bx.newcarsz.com/egypts-biggest-discovery-in-decades-solves-4500-year-old-pharaoh-mystery-impressive/?fbclid=IwAR3UTcQahjqqGNn15_HfNGVJx_FPh1tWLPjEd57MTNrLhJ44huIZ6ooLhg4
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #406 on: March 22, 2022, 09:23:12 PM »
 Getting rat arsed Egyptian style? Actually beer played a vital role as an antibacterial answer to the Nile water when it came to fluid intake. Also, there was the infamous festival dedicated to Sekhmet, the alter ego of the nurturing, protective goddess Hathor....in which drunkenness was requires behaviour for one and all..... https://abydos.org/blog/2022/3/18/what-happened-to-all-that-beer?fbclid=IwAR2Ae5nldYcgyC6Qao5gC2l3t_ZhUSf28rw_kAHCD-1OTn31KLxd5SaQfrA
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #407 on: April 05, 2022, 02:14:30 PM »
      The wonders of modern tech.
Analysing the remnants of food for eternity; the contents of Kha and Meryt's tomb are fantastic - if you ever go to Turin, this is a must-see. I'd quibble with the 'most intact nobles tomb' though; I'd contend that honour goes to the burial of Yuya and Thuyu, KV 43 in the Valley of the Kings; Tutankhamun's great-grandparents.
However, this article is not to be sniffed at.
https://ancient-archeology.com/historic-smells-reveal-secrets-and-techniques-of-egyptian-tomb/?fbclid=IwAR3--7vbgWNbwvY0xTGgqlgcei7TwzborM3nGZZx6WPdSY2X2n4QkdUsP5M
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #408 on: May 02, 2022, 09:09:06 AM »
      An insight into the murky world of political intrigue in Egypt's old Kingdom. Dyn VI was a time of change; earlier kings had taken power from the immediate royal circle and vested it in capable nobles....who passed it, father to son, in mini dynasties, up and down the country. Outwardly, Pharonic power remained supreme - though in fact , year by year, it was diluted, till the dynasty collapsed, the country fragmented into what would be termed the 'First Intermediate Period'. This latest find, from the very short reign of Userkare, is significant. We don't yet have Userkare's tomb - though it will be near this site, and, given the brevity of the reign, unfinished. https://www.heritagedaily.com/2022/05/archaeologists-discover-tomb-of-ancient-egyptian-royal-clerk-at-saqqara/143476?fbclid=IwAR3cqlU5wCg4RhZNdSOUvs-cSMEp5aNgQCibR5_q-e9kE6qlCa8aDxynT8w
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #409 on: May 02, 2022, 11:29:43 AM »
Still reading 'Origins', I am on a section about the Mongols and it seems they got as far as Egypt but I'm not sure of date or how long they stayed.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #410 on: May 02, 2022, 01:51:53 PM »
Still reading 'Origins', I am on a section about the Mongols and it seems they got as far as Egypt but I'm not sure of date or how long they stayed.


It'd have to have been in the early medieval period, at which time Egypt was governed by a Caliphate, so any contact would've been trade only, Susan.
There are strong indications of trade links from Egypt to what became India in the twelfth  century BC, though whether they were contacts made through Asia Minor or actual routes is still unknown.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #411 on: May 02, 2022, 04:03:06 PM »

It'd have to have been in the early medieval period, at which time Egypt was governed by a Caliphate, so any contact would've been trade only, Susan.
There are strong indications of trade links from Egypt to what became India in the twelfth  century BC, though whether they were contacts made through Asia Minor or actual routes is still unknown.
Thank you - world-wide travel certainly has its ups and downs..
And yes, I now realise it must have been the mediaeval period because the next page I have been reading this afternoon mentions the fact that the bubonic plague was brought from the Steppes, via China via Genoa and Venice in the 1340s.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #412 on: May 05, 2022, 09:21:22 PM »
You wait for a tomb and eighty odd turn up.
This seems to have been an Old Kingdom necropolis, re-used in Ptolemaic times....quite a rare find in Upper (Southern) Egypt.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202205/1264842.shtml?fbclid=IwAR1CPGQcYfjak40Oa6UM4TOCS4qFTnkpnFDinEjej02Fvn0f7haKb--ID8A
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« Reply #413 on: May 11, 2022, 08:57:47 AM »
 A heads up from the Beeb on an exhibition detailing the brilliant content of the Griffiths Institute, Oxford.
The diaries,notes, plans, and, above all, photographic plates detail the first in-depth archaeological scientific excavation of a tomb as we understand it - Tutankhamun's tomb, of course.
I'm glad the exhibition gives credit to Harry Burton, Arthur Weighall, Alan Gardiner, as well as Howard Carter, in this, the centenary year of the discovery.
I've used the online resources of the Griffiths for years, and, if you've a spare moment, go there and see for yourself.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-61394416?fbclid=IwAR18fvoJumnCKumKD2oEjuEtEOg3XvyUHtkJBBJmGgBOC_VvyH0mhWUqobE
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #414 on: May 30, 2022, 12:32:33 PM »
       A massive discovery of over 250 intact late period (c600-300 BC) coffins, as well as bronze statues, canopic jars, funerary papyri, food offerings, embalmers' tools and items of jewellery, have been found at the Bubastion, a temple site dedicated to Bast and Thoth, at Saqqara.
The condition of the coffins is superb, many of them showing vivid colours, gold leaf, inscriptions, accompanied with intact jars of unguents which were used at the funeral ceremonies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR25jZaW_ro5P58e670cgSLcEYJv9Zn6ygh8ZExJPJs7al34bBbsjOzfwMo&v=TLKsR3q7nW0&feature=youtu.be
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« Reply #415 on: May 30, 2022, 05:49:41 PM »
 Quite a nice written summary of the latest finds from the Bubastion.
The haul of bronze statuary is quite breathtaking in itself. Saqqara never fails to disappoint; it has been used as a necropolis since the earliest dynastic times, through Pharonic period, right up until the Roman occupation - a staggering 3,500 years. There should be much, much more still to find there: three expeditions are working there at the moment.
Apart from the Bubastion dig, there are excavations dealing with late second and early third dynasty tombs, as well as a dig giving tantalising hints of the 'missing' royal tombs of the fifth and seventh dynasties.

https://ancientegypt4travel.com/150-statues-and-250-coffins-the-new-archaeological-discovery-in-saqqara/?fbclid=IwAR0O3lqAg4lny7O5RC057o70xQ0JgvKVDAV3FSqzExwJ8UuMu2FYwrv5Hcw
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #416 on: May 31, 2022, 07:01:19 AM »
       A massive discovery of over 250 intact late period (c600-300 BC) coffins, as well as bronze statues, canopic jars, funerary papyri, food offerings, embalmers' tools and items of jewellery, have been found at the Bubastion, a temple site dedicated to Bast and Thoth, at Saqqara.
The condition of the coffins is superb, many of them showing vivid colours, gold leaf, inscriptions, accompanied with intact jars of unguents which were used at the funeral ceremonies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR25jZaW_ro5P58e670cgSLcEYJv9Zn6ygh8ZExJPJs7al34bBbsjOzfwMo&v=TLKsR3q7nW0&feature=youtu.be
It is quite astonishing that all these discoveries continue to be made. The Egyptians and archaeologists must sometimes sigh and think, 'Oh dear, not another one!'

When you consider the huge numbers of people, the physical labour involved, the numbers of skilled artists, the huge expense in funds and time needed, etc, it's difficult to get one's head round!
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« Reply #417 on: May 31, 2022, 08:57:59 AM »
It is quite astonishing that all these discoveries continue to be made. The Egyptians and archaeologists must sometimes sigh and think, 'Oh dear, not another one!'

When you consider the huge numbers of people, the physical labour involved, the numbers of skilled artists, the huge expense in funds and time needed, etc, it's difficult to get one's head round!

I remember a lecturer at uni telling me, with confidence, that Egypt was, as he put it, "dug out".
That was in 1980.
In the last four years alone, there have been over eighty major discoveries.
As for the ancient Egyptian burial customs?
By the late period, with the diminution of pharonic power, and the democratisation of death, meaning that even lower middle class folk could afford a decent embalming and stock coffin, the funeral industry became an economic mainstay of both artisans and priests.
The latter were responsible for the mass breeding of cult animals to be offered as prayers, whether real or faked mummies, to the gods...and making a nice little earner in the process.
The result is a vast number of animal mummies - estimated in the millions, and high quality human burials - at least on the outside.
On closer examination, mummification techniques were sometimes rushed, with costs cut. Plaster and bandages covered a multitude of sins.
Most of these modern finds will be CT scanned, any inscriptions deciphered, and returned to the tomb, which will be sealed and secured against grave robbers.
A few will be kept and displayed, along with the bronze statues, in the new Grand Egyptian Museum.
None will be unwrapped. That practice is no longer necessary. Only mummies which are found in a destroyed state are ever examined internally by hand nowadays.

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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #418 on: May 31, 2022, 03:23:33 PM »

I remember a lecturer at uni telling me, with confidence, that Egypt was, as he put it, "dug out".
That was in 1980.
In the last four years alone, there have been over eighty major discoveries.
As for the ancient Egyptian burial customs?
By the late period, with the diminution of pharonic power, and the democratisation of death, meaning that even lower middle class folk could afford a decent embalming and stock coffin, the funeral industry became an economic mainstay of both artisans and priests.
The latter were responsible for the mass breeding of cult animals to be offered as prayers, whether real or faked mummies, to the gods...and making a nice little earner in the process.
The result is a vast number of animal mummies - estimated in the millions, and high quality human burials - at least on the outside.
On closer examination, mummification techniques were sometimes rushed, with costs cut. Plaster and bandages covered a multitude of sins.
Most of these modern finds will be CT scanned, any inscriptions deciphered, and returned to the tomb, which will be sealed and secured against grave robbers.
A few will be kept and displayed, along with the bronze statues, in the new Grand Egyptian Museum.
None will be unwrapped. That practice is no longer necessary. Only mummies which are found in a destroyed state are ever examined internally by hand nowadays.
Very interesting - I didn't know that.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #419 on: June 01, 2022, 02:26:33 PM »
Was wondering if there were any reliable population estimates for the various ancient Egyptian periods, or other demographics?

There were a lot of people that needed burial ... and clearly a culture encouraging of belief in an after-life and preservation of remains.

Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now

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« Reply #420 on: June 01, 2022, 04:28:58 PM »
Was wondering if there were any reliable population estimates for the various ancient Egyptian periods, or other demographics?

There were a lot of people that needed burial ... and clearly a culture encouraging of belief in an after-life and preservation of remains.


     

Estimates are problematic at best, given immigration from the Levant, Lybia, and mercenary colonies of Carian Greeks and Hebrews in the Late period; they vary from 3.9 to 5.3 million at around the time of the twenty-seventh dynasty, when Persia overran Egypt.


Estimates of around three million at the peak of the Eighteenth dynasty empire period seem reasonable.
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« Reply #421 on: June 13, 2022, 09:38:41 PM »
 This is a biggie.
Very rare blocks from a temple construction of the fourth dynasty king Khufu, along with statues, fragments of building work, and inscriptions found in a dig at Heliopolis.
The dig is still in progress; along with the material from later periods, it's just possible we might find a contemporary image of Khufu.
Ironically, the only image we have of the builder of the Great pyramid is a tiny ivory statuette less than three inches tall, which itself may be of a much later date.
https://english.ahram.org.eg/News/467855.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2tZUBk8ZhNbz3VCICgGpc8AISSXlo8wGOhjIJiq53_l1JNZNf-4csgEMI
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« Reply #422 on: July 27, 2022, 07:40:21 PM »
A nice wee article showing just how in-depth scientific research has grown in Egyptology.
Potential evidence of stroke victims in Ancient Egypt.
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/stroke-victim-egypt-0017049?fbclid=IwAR1h0A2lgK0a8qfx9XOjytoSn6jnfI9HQ06iBqrUWuxIEd6SN6KpKNro7ok
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« Reply #423 on: August 24, 2022, 09:04:23 AM »
 Some nice pics of the conservation and restoration work being undertaken by the Egyptian government.
This article's about a colossal statue of Thutmose II, fourth king of the eighteenth dynasty, usually overshadowed by his wife and sister, Hatshepsut, who assumed the kingship a few years after his death.
If you go to Karnak or Luxor temples, you'll see a great deal of work being done there, especially recovering the infill from the great pylon gates - that rubble is actually bits of previous constructions, sometimes buildings of controversial kings such as Akhenaten or Tutankhamun, which were destroyed and recycled.
The rubble, when reconstructed, either manually or digitally, can provide very valuable nuggets of history.
https://see.news/egypt-completes-work-on-restoration-of-king-tuthmosis-ii/?fbclid=IwAR0rgmXlyQ1U7I3uznyYwaA3LlFK2K0Pobs9t7GSpWdRtu78OGb_jPqeCAg
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« Reply #424 on: September 03, 2022, 07:43:37 PM »
A heads-up for Londoners; not only is this year the 100th anniversary of the discovery of the tomb of Tutankhamun, but it marks 200 years since first real Egyptology. The British Museum has come up with a significant exhibition;
https://www.britishmuseum.org/exhibitions/hieroglyphs-unlocking-ancient-egypt?fbclid=IwAR2ZLwfsu2qJ17m63DOalZAMSpyP-Zvl3AN9KBSqGjzYpjekLznSPvvsiiM#:~:text=For%20centuries,%20life%20in%20ancient,history%20by%20some%203,000%20years
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