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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #150 on: December 07, 2018, 10:57:11 AM »
A rare find dating from Egypt's Middle Kingdom - the so-called 'classical' period, dynasties 11-13; a robbed tomb, probably from the time of the first king of dyn XII, Amenemhet I. https://luxortimesmagazine.blogspot.com/2018/12/middle-kingdom-burial-shaft-discovered.html#!/2018/12/middle-kingdom-burial-shaft-discovered.html
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #151 on: December 07, 2018, 01:09:00 PM »
Cool thread AM, love archaeological stuff and like this site:

https://www.ancient-origins.net/general  :)

If the story grabs my attention i look it up on a more.. scientific site!
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #152 on: December 07, 2018, 03:12:43 PM »
Cool thread AM, love archaeological stuff and like this site:

https://www.ancient-origins.net/general  :) 

If the story grabs my attention i look it up on a more.. scientific site!
   

Cheers, KO.
I've been hooked on the subject since I was a young 'un, and things have got a lot worse since then.....
Finally got my degree a couple of years ago, and now there's no hope for me.
I don't know if you haunt Facebook, but there are a few very good groups there....as well as some  run by pyramidiots. Em Hotep BBS, Sussex Egyptology Unofficial Page, to name two of the former for starters.
Umpteen serious sites as well, such as
http://emhotep.net/
Which is run in partnership with Em Hotep BBS, and
https://osirisnet.net/e_centrale.htm
A very good Franco-English site with great pics, as well as current news.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #153 on: December 13, 2018, 06:48:21 PM »
One of the most productive excavations in Egypt today is the ongoing work at Gebel-el-Sisila, in the south of the country, near Aswan.
A vast necropolis dating from between 1700-1000 BC has yielden many very significant tombs of high and middle ranking nobles from Egypt's New Kingdom, plus graves of mercenary soldiers from both Sudan and the Aegean employed in the pacification and 'Egyptianisation' of Nubia.
Here's the very latest discovery of an intact eighteenth dynasty burial.
https://gebelelsilsilaepigraphicsurveyproject.blogspot.com/2018/12/new-discovery-intact-mass-grave.html?spref=fb&fbclid=IwAR39UkD8-FTIn56KW_XMSi6kyC100JWJtYkx1YqZcHuIcXP4JFdFmxcEBAQ
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #154 on: December 15, 2018, 12:48:43 PM »
 ...And there's more.
From the reign of the fifth dynasty king Neferirkare,dating to about a century after the Great pyramid of Giza, a major find at the vast necropolis of Sakkara,south of modern Cairo.
A 'wah' priest's burial, and, from what the excavator's report, in superb condition, still to be fully  explored, but probably intact.
http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/320140.aspx?fbclid=IwAR152A_af--yADcuCySPme8OuHuIT5KwxK6ZaQkyDFERu_GJO82IvL47MIE

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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #155 on: December 17, 2018, 09:08:06 AM »
      Here's some footage of the newly discovered dyn V tomb at Saqqara, with great pics of the wall decoration, still  in superb condition after four thousand years. Media reports of pharaoh's statues are wrong....statues were of the tomb owner and his family. No nobles were buried with royal statuary at this time; though the names of Neferirkare, third of the dyn V 'sun kings' do appear in the tomb, along with a couple of mentions of 'the Aten' as an aspect of the  Sun....eight centuries before the 'Aten heresy' at the end of the eighteenth dynasty. http://luxortimes.com/2018/12/exclusive-video-inside-the-newly-discovered-tomb-in-sakkara/?fbclid=IwAR2IYBgNfkNcGg-BVr6iXXmbf7P1xvMjv5A6J-LBJfWfdabnzfHQtQO7_eM
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #157 on: December 21, 2018, 09:26:45 AM »
 The name's the thing. Sometimes the really important archaeology isn't the bling in the tomb...and this is a prime example. Kom Ombo was long recognised as an  important settlement in Upper (Southern) Egypt in the time of the New Kingdom. Now excavations are starting to show that it was probably the second city of Egypt in the time of the Old Kingdom as well Seal impressions ov various Fifth dynasty kings, including  the 'sun kings' Sahure and Neferirkare, have been found in large quantities. Seal impressions of the latter were, until this find, pretty rare. . http://luxortimes.com/2018/12/old-kingdoms-kings-names-discovered-in-kom-ombo/?fbclid=IwAR1Qf7QQqZf0xUwNFIIGYvNsqrfaCEbGcxH5BgcRvwux3tAkaBTmo2pOaPQ
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #158 on: December 21, 2018, 11:28:11 AM »
Been watching Tony Robinson in Egyptian Tomb Hunting on Channel 5 (yes it's a legitimate channel!!)

It's a good watch.  :)
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #159 on: December 21, 2018, 12:06:12 PM »
Been watching Tony Robinson in Egyptian Tomb Hunting on Channel 5 (yes it's a legitimate channel!!)

It's a good watch.  :)
   





Yep.Tony's enthusiasm came through in bucket loads.
When archaeologists find a few fragments of the remains of  a hut here, they enthuse for weeks.
In Egypt, the problem is trying to find time to document the continuing avalanche of new finds.
Gebel-el-Sisila is an incredible dig, and seems to be one that might just last for decades.
The mud soup through which Tony swam seems to be pretty significant, though, but might have to wait a few more months till funds for more powerful pumps become available in order to get to the second, as yet unexplored  chamber of what is a unique New Kingdom tomb.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #160 on: December 21, 2018, 12:31:04 PM »
When they said pumps i thought they would be bring out the high tech jobs, not the locals turning up with something as reliable as my lawn mower!! :)

Damn I was dying to see what was ... beyond the door!
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #161 on: December 21, 2018, 02:36:08 PM »
When they said pumps i thought they would be bring out the high tech jobs, not the locals turning up with something as reliable as my lawn mower!! :)

Damn I was dying to see what was ... beyond the door!
     


So much for the dry sands of Egypt, then.
Anyhoo, here's the site for the updates from the el-Sisila dig.

http://gebelelsilsilaepigraphicsurveyproject.blogspot.com/
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #162 on: December 21, 2018, 02:50:43 PM »
Damn I.T.s filter!

Thanks AM i'll check it out when I get home.  :)
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #163 on: December 31, 2018, 01:37:30 PM »
It's been a bumper year for finds - though a rough estimate reveals that less than a third of the archaeology in Egypt has as yet been found. Anyway, here's a top ten of the finds of 2018....but I could have posted a top fifty.... http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/News/26129.aspx?fbclid=IwAR15BIEht9ZHjK6YtuIdnT_DJTKdt34Ara_7cukJhoe_66vQnRh81EBtUfY
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #164 on: January 14, 2019, 10:43:40 AM »
 .....Well, not Egypt - Spain! Museums are getting round to  round to using modern tech to examine their exhibits,and sometimes surprises turn up. Here's one....the positive ID of an eye doctor who served Ptolemy XII, dyn 31....Cleopatra VII's dad. https://archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2019/01/madrid-mummy-found-to-be-ptolemy-iis.html#Q8ttkgw5sidKQfI7.97
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #165 on: January 14, 2019, 02:58:25 PM »
 And there's more. This time, a  story from Saudi which doesn't involve bombs, guns or (modern) religion.... Evidence of Egyptian activity in the Arabian peninsula in the time of Ramesses III; presumably a trade expedition or a tax gathering raid on the  frankincense and myrrh growing area at the time. There's a mistake in the article, though; Ramesses III was not the son of Ramesses II. There was no family relationship, and the two kings rules are separated by fifty years. http://www.egypttoday.com/Article/4/63386/Hieroglyphic-inscriptions-discovered-in-Saudi-Arabia
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #167 on: January 16, 2019, 08:25:59 AM »
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« Reply #168 on: January 16, 2019, 09:00:47 AM »
anchorman

I hadn't clicked on this topic for ages, so have just enjoyed a most interesting catch-up readof several pages. Thank you.
   




Thanks, Susan.
All those finds can be a real pain, though.  I'm writing a book that no-one with any sense will ever read, about four years...four out of four thousand ....in Egyptian history.
The trouble is, I've had to re-write bits of it more
 than once in the last few months because some blasted so-and-so keeps digging up morenew finds whichshed new light on those four blassted years.
Sometimes I wish I'd taken up flower arranging instead.... ;)
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #169 on: January 16, 2019, 09:24:06 AM »
:) all very interesting, though! I first became interested when my mother, having more time to herself now that all four of us were at school all day, decided to educate herself more. She went to the Library and asked the Librarians where she should start. They recommended reading about Tutankhamen's tomb and I, being a reader of anything with words on, read it too! Also, my mother was enthusiastic about what she was reading.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #170 on: January 16, 2019, 10:03:38 AM »
:) all very interesting, though! I first became interested when my mother, having more time to herself now that all four of us were at school all day, decided to educate herself more. She went to the Library and asked the Librarians where she should start. They recommended reading about Tutankhamen's tomb and I, being a reader of anything with words on, read it too! Also, my mother was enthusiastic about what she was reading.
   




I blame my primary school teacher.
As ten year olds, our class was deemed able to choose personal projects to pursue.
Given the date - 1970 - I chose space flight.  My teacher - still a close personal friend - suggested I choose something  different....so I chose Egypt, because that hellish film, "The Egyptians", a Hollywood sword-and-sandal hokum, had just been on the telly.
The rest was, as they say, history.
I was hooked...and by the time I was in first year secondary school, I'd taught myself rudimentary hieroglyphs.
At that time, I could use a bog standard magnifying glass - though nowadays my sight's a lot worse, and I use a Humanware explore 5 handheld electronic job for outdoors, and a prodigy desktop electronic magnifier for indoor reading.

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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #171 on: January 16, 2019, 01:58:13 PM »

     Here's some footage of the newly discovered dyn V tomb at Saqqara, with great pics of the wall decoration, still  [b]in superb condition after four thousand years[/b][/u]. Media reports of pharaoh's statues are wrong....statues were of the tomb owner and his family. No nobles were buried with royal statuary at this time; though the names of Neferirkare, third of the dyn V 'sun kings' do appear in the tomb, along with a couple of mentions of 'the Aten' as an aspect of the  Sun....eight centuries before the 'Aten heresy' at the end of the eighteenth dynasty. http://luxortimes.com/2018/12/exclusive-video-inside-the-newly-discovered-tomb-in-sakkara/?fbclid=IwAR2IYBgNfkNcGg-BVr6iXXmbf7P1xvMjv5A6J-LBJfWfdabnzfHQtQO7_eM


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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #172 on: January 16, 2019, 02:49:12 PM »
Oh, just a little while after God created the universe then . . . !
     





 Ah....
That's usher-ind  a whole new topic....
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #173 on: January 21, 2019, 07:31:27 PM »
....Another week, another find..... This time from Aswan, the southern 'frontier town' in the third millennium BC. http://see.news/six-tombs-dating-back-to-old-kingdom-discovered-in-aswan/?fbclid=IwAR32wI6yI-YSYIiRURbnzfzTeTWK-zqn9gS27wA-qtOEq-j2FGQRAUM7dzo
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« Reply #174 on: January 24, 2019, 11:05:50 AM »
      Another day, another announcement. This time, a double whammy, significant finds dating to two of the more obscure periods of history. The earlier dates to the Badarian period, just before the formation of what would become 'Lower Egypt', and eventually part of the 'two lands', from around 3200 BC. The later dates from the Second Intermediate period, when, for around a century, Lower Egypt was ruled by a set of rival dynasts collectively known as the Hyksos. The distinctly Semitic style of pottery shows the Canaanite origins of the site. The Hyksos were eventually expelled from the Delta by Ahmose I, founder of the eighteenth dynasty. http://luxortimes.com/2019/01/egyptian-archaeologists-discover-5000-year-old-burials/?fbclid=IwAR18GkiSAv6j6wkn79XYGPyh0_x5HQ5gacuWEFGUcopg2bL7CxV1u1hYMzY
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