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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #175 on: January 28, 2019, 11:17:03 AM »
I can just see the headlines.....
"Plonk from the pyramids".......
OK, anachronistic, but snappy.

http://luxortimes.com/2019/01/2000-year-old-winery-discovered-in-delta/?fbclid=IwAR0s51bN7aY4yN_T1m2X3nEBdmIc4qPb7d1hcN-m8UoOzJObD5fawdrIF8w
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #176 on: January 29, 2019, 03:43:57 PM »
.....another day, anotherr discovery. I can remember someone telling me, as I first studied Eyptology, that Egypt was 'dug out'. That was in 1980. This year - 2019 - there have been at least five significant finds already... here's the latest.... http://www.egypttoday.com/Article/4/63937/Exclusive-to-Egypt-Today-A-cemetery-housing-40-mummies-uncovered?fbclid=IwAR3rz0VXhn6Uj1zARvcLLZArEj9mQufT7t4RSL6TxQsQXL4UvWJg6ESRmcM
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #177 on: February 02, 2019, 02:06:32 PM »
 Knee deep in mummies.
The latest discoveries from a rich necropolis dating from c100BC-400AD.
http://see.news/new-archeological-discovery-in-minia-announced/?fbclid=IwAR3zX0FAflhjHCl-Dc7a6zY0sGQIVb8QbgHUL8qpRRVbfNjz-ll33dqKFKM
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #179 on: February 04, 2019, 02:50:10 PM »
     "Honest, guv, we wuz only doin' a bit of DIY....."
WWhat happens when you do a liitle building without planning permission?
You stumble across a tomb full of Greco-Roman mummies, that's what.
And then the old Bill get involved.   
http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/324949.aspx?fbclid=IwAR1U51bHy21FLI1bCs_kb_Ho7-LJyfrRx_6tU8BCZA585y0bFC-eL-KdTsw
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #180 on: February 04, 2019, 04:27:32 PM »
      Not a find, more a clearance.
One of the biggest villains in Egyptology was the American Theodore M Davies...who wrecked more sites and ransacked more pristine tombs than most tourists have ever seen. His 'excavation' of the controversial KV 55 has created more controversy than any other dig in Egypt; his 'donation' of items to friends and families, and museums, without recording or researching them is still creating problems today - and sometimes answering questions.
Here's a blog from the Valley of the Kings illustrating the work being undertaken even now to try to redress the balance - and discover a few gems Davies either missed or discarded.

https://egyptcentrecollectionblog.blogspot.com/2019/02/gold-from-valley-of-kings.html?fbclid=IwAR18tvY2RtnIsmEBgSEXocdf8E4aSP8P3G9AQr78tyIFK30qPonMQlnwHho
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #181 on: February 11, 2019, 10:32:48 AM »
It's not often a new 'mastaba' burial is unearthed.
'Mastaba' is the Arabic word for bench, as thisdescribes the superstructure of the tomb. Mastabas were used from predynastic times to the dawning of the pyramid age, invariably for royal or very high ranking personages.
This ine seems to be for a teenager, whose position at burial suggests a date earlier than the traditional form of burial, but still shows some efforts at mummifacation.
http://luxortimes.com/2019/02/4500-year-old-burial-of-a-teenager-discovered/?fbclid=IwAR0U2l4DDg7DKCkPalQqfQlfUbOF_SkV8segweGDXM1cj7XFae4RMSN8SQY
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #182 on: February 12, 2019, 09:07:15 AM »
 Egyptology's not just about getting yourself knee deep in mummies or falling into tombs.
Here's a link to a friend of mine, Jan Picton' who is working at the Malquatta project (Yes, there are several ways to spell it...)
The Malquatta is the modern name for a massive palace compound built by Amenhotep III  around 1360, mainly of mud brick, so it's a wreck of a site...but massive amounts of rubbish and deposits are left to show us what it would have been like in the thirty years it was in use.
There are tantalising clues as to trade with the Agean, maybe even with China, and the story of the Amarna period kings who used the place.
This blog gives an insight into the painstaking work at the site.

https://imalqata.wordpress.com/2019/02/11/tracking-pot-designs/?fbclid=IwAR1z2pI3UTmqz2oDvoOPmQj7PuEutoPiP23saMz1m0OEJaaRQO5OGuQeSyU

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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #183 on: February 13, 2019, 10:41:05 AM »
Another day, another find.
This time, the Greco-Roman equivalent of John Brown's shipyard on the Clyde.
http://luxortimes.com/2019/02/roman-shipyard-discovered-in-egypt/
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #184 on: February 17, 2019, 09:47:10 PM »
 OK....forget the hyperbole - Gabolde is a superb Egyptologist and certainly wouldn't use those words; but his finding of Neferneferuaten as the owner of Tutankhamun's sarcophagus confirms what most of us  suspect that Akhenaten's wife ruled as king and that most of her funerary equipment was used for Tutankhamun's very irregular burial.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1087721/egypt-mystery-solved-archaeologist-hidden-secret-tutankhamun-tomb-spt?fbclid=IwAR1aEg03xFRN0qQ_0V6WKNKTptkMn_X4TH
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #185 on: February 27, 2019, 09:58:08 AM »
It's been a whole week since a discovery was announced.
Worry not....
This time, from the incredible Gebel-el Sisila dig zone, a 'builders' yard' from the New Kingdom, with some unfinished work in progress - showing sculptural methodology.
This one's not gold or mummy filled stuff, but it is nonetheless very important.
http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/326232.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2wVMTWenalF4nhvJ-EBYxwHDkziacn-8L5GcqKB7Q5hpj8mWD8eaCt_DI
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #186 on: March 07, 2019, 02:38:43 PM »
 Have a shuftie at this link.
It isn't a new discovery, but it has just been re-opened to the public.
There has been no restoration to the colours or paintwork - what's there is the way the craftsmen left it, over five thousand years ago.
The tomb owner was a very high ranking official at the court of the sixth dynasty, around two centuries after the pyramids of Giza were built, and nine centuries before Tutankhamun.
Yes, I know - the mind boggles at the timeline.
Anyhow, Mehu had great power and responsibilities equivalent to the present day combined power of a UK chancellor of the exchequer and home secretary combined, so his king(s) - he server under two successive monarchs -  splashed out on a lavish monument for him.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4437704/4000-year-old-tomb-egypt/

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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #187 on: March 07, 2019, 03:04:53 PM »
Wow

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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #188 on: March 18, 2019, 02:43:54 PM »
      OK, I couldn't not share this one....any anchor floats my boat -or not.
Seriously, though, this is just the latest in a massive haul of finds from the sea off the Delta...which subsided as a result of a massive earthquake in Ptolemaic times, and a second around the time of the Roman Emperor Augustus. The sea came in covering harbours,ships, towns, temples and cities in sand, preserving them in almost perfect condition - and giving us material dating from c. 2000 BC -30 AD to play with.


http://luxortimes.com/2019/03/2000-year-old-anchors-discovered-in-the-mediterranean-waters-near-alexandria/?fbclid=IwAR0cmQS4FD8dqFnCH4TD9BM4aGwi34UEuo6Ai
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #189 on: March 30, 2019, 10:23:12 AM »
 Abydos was important in Egypt from earliest times.
Located near Nekhen (Heirakonpolis, it was the earliest site of royal power in pre dynastic and early dynastic times,and hosted the burials of Egypt's earliest kings.
As the cult of Osiris became the main gateway to the afterlife,around eighty years after the 'great pyramid' was built, Abydos became the cult centre for Osiris and remained so until Roman times.
There's superb temple built by Seti I and his son, Ramesses II stands in splendour, with jaw-dropping wall carvings and historically vital inscriptions, there - and now a new temple/palace compound of Ramesses II has been found - with the remnant of superb decoration indicating that it was, for a time, a royal residence.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/9/40/329050/Heritage/Ancient-Egypt/New-ttemple-palace-discovered-at-Ramses-IIs-temple-.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2e0Lvn9Q_tzaLteYArlU3T8YfVQWGqv4Y_PDjYL5pyemxtaxHOBt2E7VQ.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #190 on: April 02, 2019, 09:40:47 AM »
       ....and another, and another....
This time, rather rare finds, probably dating to the end of the first Intermediate Period and start of the Eleventh dynasty.
Yes, the preservation is poor, but nevertheless, the fact that the burial was found in situ in a rather damp area means that any sort of organic material is a bonus.

http://luxortimes.com/2019/04/anthropoid-sarcophagus-and-gold-appliques-discovered-in-4000-year-old-cemetry-north-of-cairo/?fbclid=IwAR1lZ_yjNurjw7ITgd5ow2ltPWfxA9IacHEza5NuG377E3en4kIcJNOWGsY
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #191 on: April 03, 2019, 09:43:28 AM »
 Another day, another announcement.
This time, from the massive royal necropolis of south Saqqara, where kings, noble sand dignitaries from the third till eighth dynasties were buried.
A typical dyn V tomb of a high ranking noble, like most others, robbed in antiquity.
From another news feed, though,I gather that some Egyptologists are in head scratching mode,as an inscription in the tomb mentions the Aten - an aspect of the Sun, well known as a form of the solar deity Re from this time - but apparently, this example stresses the Aten as a deity separate from Re - nine centuries before the mid eighteenth dynasty kings start to promote it as a supreme deity - culminating in Akhenaten and the Amarna so-called revolution.

https://cegu.ff.cuni.cz/en/2019/04/02/discovery-of-a-unique-tomb-and-the-name-of-an-ancient-egyptian-queen-in-south-saqqara/?fbclid=IwAR2taB3CUNqItEX4Z7XZ8zpgnha11xn8a8feCs3StmrxMEsmIB7c6mVXs4I
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #192 on: April 06, 2019, 09:57:07 AM »
 Another day, another tomb.....
This time, from the Ptolemaic era - but more Egyptian in style than Greek.
The exceptional 'classical' wall painting harks back to the 'golden age' - by then receding into ancient history.
The amount of animal mummies buried with the deceased  shows the 'industrialisation' of animal votive offerings which only came to the fore after the 'humanisation' of the kings toward the fourth century BC.
Prior to that time, the king acted as intermediary to the gods...now animals took over the role - by the million.
http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/329501.aspx?fbclid=IwAR3uoSnlVU9_pQZpHm7Pc6J-HXpCi59WJ1a9_GVGbU5sY0ruDwlSnQP-lzM
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #193 on: April 10, 2019, 09:15:13 AM »
 This one's causing a stooshie.
Apparently, controversial 'Egyptologist' Zahi Hawass engendered even more self-publicity  by unveiling three sarcophagi containing mummies and other artefacts, on a 'live' broadcast on the Discovery channel on Sunday night.
The  mummies date from the Saite period -  around 600 BC - and this link gives good images.
That's not the issue, though.
Many Egyptologists were rightly incensed to see Hawass picking up and handling objects - despite them not being photographed and measured in situ first.
That is simply terrible archaeology.
It's not as if he wasn't aware of  GOOD archaeology...after all, he's always banging on about Howard Carter and Tutankhamun. Carter was meticulous in cataloguing, measuring and photographing each object in situ - and again in the conservation lab. This archive of photographs and data is still invaluable for modern researchers today.
But, then, that's typical Hawass.

https://archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2019/04/egypt-unveils-2500-year-old-mummy-at.html#Z1H4GU5rmD60zExY.97
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #194 on: April 12, 2019, 08:27:55 AM »
 Been to the dentists recently?
This might make you think what the future archaeologists will make of your lifestyle.
Bio-archaeology is a complex, yet valuable resource when dealing with the ancient dead...and this article shows how meticulous research on otherwise nondescript middle ranking noble remains from the First Intermediate Period can reveal lots more than we thought.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2019/04/11/archaeologists-discover-a-new-profession-in-an-ancient-egyptian-womans-teeth/?fbclid=IwAR1DtKIRJtl-BYAZ2ut5bUZY_cGIPtl9HcCLI0tj0jlN-pu4HMFujvCJ_0E#6a8123c93098
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #195 on: April 12, 2019, 08:36:54 AM »
Been to the dentists recently?
This might make you think what the future archaeologists will make of your lifestyle.
Bio-archaeology is a complex, yet valuable resource when dealing with the ancient dead...and this article shows how meticulous research on otherwise nondescript middle ranking noble remains from the First Intermediate Period can reveal lots more than we thought.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2019/04/11/archaeologists-discover-a-new-profession-in-an-ancient-egyptian-womans-teeth/?fbclid=IwAR1DtKIRJtl-BYAZ2ut5bUZY_cGIPtl9HcCLI0tj0jlN-pu4HMFujvCJ_0E#6a8123c93098


I had my 6 monthly dental check up on Wednesday. The sadistic dentist I had as a young child would have not been out of place all those millennia ago! :o
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #196 on: April 12, 2019, 08:46:22 AM »

I had my 6 monthly dental check up on Wednesday. The sadistic dentist I had as a young child would have not been out of place all those millennia ago! :o
     
What gives you the idea that medics in Egypt were regarded as 'sadist'?
We have several tombs from Saqqara, Memphis, El-Kab, Luxor, etc, which belonged to the equivalent of doctors - tombs gifted by the state - dating from 2900 BC -700 BC; showing the high regard the state had for such people.
Meanwhile, here's a scholarly article from the British Dental Association.
https://www.nature.com/articles/sj.bdj.2009.355
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #197 on: April 12, 2019, 08:50:29 AM »
For an overview of tombs created for dentists, go to https://news.softpedia.com/news/Dentists-039-Tombs-from-Ancient-Egypt-39079.shtml
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #198 on: April 12, 2019, 09:05:51 AM »
     
What gives you the idea that medics in Egypt were regarded as 'sadist'?
We have several tombs from Saqqara, Memphis, El-Kab, Luxor, etc, which belonged to the equivalent of doctors - tombs gifted by the state - dating from 2900 BC -700 BC; showing the high regard the state had for such people.
Meanwhile, here's a scholarly article from the British Dental Association.
https://www.nature.com/articles/sj.bdj.2009.355


They didn't have the use of painkillers in those days. Of course our dentist did but chose not to use them! >:(
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« Reply #199 on: April 12, 2019, 10:02:52 AM »
They didn't have the use of painkillers in those days. Of course our dentist did but chose not to use them! >:(
I think you'll find Egyptian medicine was highly sophisticated - for its time; medical tretises survive from c1800 BC. Here's a link to an overview. https://www.ancient-egypt-online.com/ancient-egyptian-medicine.html
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