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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #200 on: April 18, 2019, 09:00:06 PM »
Another day, another tomb. This time, from the massive Dra abul -el Naga necropolis near Luxor; the site of the burials of Dyn XV II ruler, and later nobles and minor royals of the New Kingdom. This seems a spectacular find, and from magnifying the images, I'd suggest the mid eighteenth dynasty as a date for the occupant. The images are spectacular. http://www.egypttoday.com/Article/4/68489/Egypt-announces-tomb-discovery-at-Luxor%E2%80%99s-Draa-Abul-Naga-necropolis?fbclid=IwAR3VPUGwZPnX1rIFbR9FgD2p6KTivBZdE89QwZbt0WsLJq-Rm0yJqVYFZeE
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #201 on: April 18, 2019, 10:39:46 PM »
....and a video of the latest find from dra abu el-naga -with typical Eyptian hyperbole. Mind you, they've got something to crowabout; thisseemsto be the first in aseries of spectacular tombs built for very high ranking semi-royal officials of the seventeenth and eighteenth dynasties. http://luxortimes.com/2019/04/exclusive-video-ancient-egyptian-mayors-tomb-discovered-in-luxor/?fbclid=IwAR3uwUVpiUsrNSoM3ZbnHJW6qBdCDIQta-hzQ-UkUhLJDkrxfWrOH4gT2dg
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #202 on: April 23, 2019, 10:29:23 PM »
  Another day, another tomb.
This time, a newdiscovery from Aswan,in the south, dating from the Greco-Roman era.
Stillworth a look,though.

http://luxortimes.com/2019/04/italian-archaeologists-discover-graeco-roman-rock-cut-tomb-in-aswan/
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #203 on: April 26, 2019, 08:41:44 AM »
 Definitely not in Egypt...but Aussie!
Look what the digger dug up in the war.....
She'll be right!

Seriously, this an example of antiquities bought by well meaning tourists and soldiers in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.
Ye, they are preserved....but without research and provenance,they're just baubles in a case.
Hundreds of local museums and probably dozens of attics contain similar forgotten treasures.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com.au/australia/anzacs-egyptian-treasure-trove-unearthed-in-sydney.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2exbHJLrtRQcRFVovCWmmcRw8-ccWXP4FYD6G7etVukMTy6rEhwtcsRGI
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #204 on: May 04, 2019, 03:09:17 PM »
Not a single tomb.... Lots of 'em. A whole new cemetary, dating from the mid - late Olk Kingdom, at the Giza Plateau...an area thought to have been 'dug out' ages ago. This find looks to be keeping the experts busy for a long while to come. http://luxortimes.com/2019/05/old-kingdom-cemetery-discovered-in-giza%e2%80%8f/?fbclid=IwAR1sD3pq-tMsT9PLfdL4mGQtNpaDES0-QjBsGyJM9OLRDr_stooI-hRljKE
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #205 on: May 05, 2019, 03:53:33 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on April 12, 2019, 08:27:55 AM
Been to the dentists recently?
This might make you think what the future archaeologists will make of your lifestyle.
Bio-archaeology is a complex, yet valuable resource when dealing with the ancient dead...and this article shows how meticulous research on otherwise nondescript middle ranking noble remains from the First Intermediate Period can reveal lots more than we thought.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2019/04/11/archaeologists-discover-a-new-profession-in-an-ancient-egyptian-womans-teeth/?fbclid=IwAR1DtKIRJtl-BYAZ2ut5bUZY_cGIPtl9HcCLI0tj0jlN-pu4HMFujvCJ_0E#6a8123c93098
catching up on reading your posts here - always interesting.

Re bones:| I had an audio book a while ago about the archaeology of bones and how new techniques for detecting traces of all sorts of stuff are adding information to the records.

On the 'Mysteries' board of the graham Hancock forum, today there is yet another new poster claiming that he has worked out - and why don't all the archaeologists of the world flock to his doorstep?!!! - that it was a previous, and of course, lost - civilisation which built the pyramides. :D
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #206 on: May 05, 2019, 05:03:19 PM »
Quote from: SusanDoris on May 05, 2019, 03:53:33 PM
catching up on reading your posts here - always interesting. Re bones:| I had an audio book a while ago about the archaeology of bones and how new techniques for detecting traces of all sorts of stuff are adding information to the records. On the 'Mysteries' board of the graham Hancock forum, today there is yet another new poster claiming that he has worked out - and why don't all the archaeologists of the world flock to his doorstep?!!! - that it was a previous, and of course, lost - civilisation which built the pyramides. :D
Aaaaaargh! You just HAD to mention Hancock....and I was having such  a nice day, Susan! I think I've had nightmares about his 'precession' gibberish. Egypt seems to attract the, er, less stable individuals, whether to spout crackpot theories like von Danekin or  the aforementioned Hancock, or pseudo religious twaddle such as Smythe,Russell or Smith. Getting back to the bones bit. I'm still blown away with the real science which means that we can identify unidentified mummies through DNA sequencing, and create a very accurate family tree for individuals who lived thirty-three hundred years ago.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #207 on: May 08, 2019, 02:37:41 PM »
 Before Egypt was Egypt. Latest finds show pre dynastic proto-hieroglyphic inscriptions dating to around 3300-3200 BC, before the unification of Egypt. Pretty significant is the Horus  falcon sign - denoting the development of the Horus cult and associating it with kingship 150 years before the recognisable iconography of Pharonic times. http://luxortimes.com/2019/05/egyptian-archaeologists-discover-neolithic-royal-inscriptions-in-aswan/?fbclid=IwAR2QNcz5afY7r1rrvtLwefQ6gjSia3u-TvXL88nMVFpxaGSzxTFosopYrNE
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #208 on: May 11, 2019, 10:02:25 AM »
     This is popping up over a few Egyptology sites...and you can bet the conspiracy nuts, curse addicts and pyramidiots are getting ready for action.
It confirms what we already knew; that the area in which Tutankhamun's tomb is located in the King's valley has several as yet uninvestigated anomalies.
Couple that with two digs in the 'Western Valley' - a run off from the main Valley, one of which is proving tantalisingly significant,as it is very near the place where Tutankhamun started building the tomb which was meant for him, but ended up being used by his successor, and the place will be ringing with the sounds of shovels shortly.

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/researchers-discover-anomalies-in-egypt-s-valley-of-the-kings?fbclid=IwAR3hGwUlOD3ascWSUqy6oeGwtYsfO7s_boBRkco_jagcop8L4y6bBVGoBuw
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #209 on: May 11, 2019, 05:33:46 PM »
Anchorman, ever wondered that you might be talking to yourself?   ;)
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #210 on: May 11, 2019, 06:50:38 PM »
Quote from: Walter on May 11, 2019, 05:33:46 PM
Anchorman, ever wondered that you might be talking to yourself?   ;)
He isn't
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #211 on: May 11, 2019, 07:17:44 PM »
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #212 on: May 11, 2019, 10:05:07 PM »
Quote from: Walter on May 11, 2019, 05:33:46 PM
Anchorman, ever wondered that you might be talking to yourself?   ;)
   


Well, the fact that you responded would suggest otherwise.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #213 on: May 14, 2019, 02:00:24 PM »
 A fortress dating to the Saite period - dyn XXVI, around the time of the Biblical Babylonian exile, announced yesterday.
http://luxortimes.com/2019/05/ancient-egyptian-military-fortress-discovered-in-north-sinai/?fbclid=IwAR01wyLz5Icu-seMi5wnWpdnWZKevehPgFMGrD79_MKpKRxkN0TH-GzatNY
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #214 on: May 31, 2019, 06:56:31 PM »
 Greek stuff.
Dating from around the time of Ptolemy IX, right through the era of Cleopatra VII and Roman Egypt, this complex excavation is yielding quite a few Greco-Roman finds.
http://www.egypttoday.com/Article/4/71025/New-discoveries-made-in-Tuna-el-Gebel-area?fbclid=IwAR2F4V-go5JWUUZ2GixWqrTyJ0nzxJYBuNvkWsFqi3Q6z_NgW2mAPSW8pqo
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #215 on: June 13, 2019, 09:06:44 AM »
 Not a find, but a controversy.
The stushie over the Elgin marbles can be seen as unique - it isn't. Multiply it with the plundering of antiquities from Egypt by rich tourists of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, and there's always a controversy on the go -  the last on these  shores being the infamous sale of the unique statue of Sekhemka.
This time, it's an auction  of a controversial bust of Tutankhamun.
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/335997/Egypt/Politics-/Egypt-calls-on-Christies-auction-house-in-London-t.aspx?fbclid=IwAR1Ra5wGD0PjaPuskHbY6uedhQDVTW5NiVXO61wxKBQ0W
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #216 on: July 06, 2019, 11:35:26 AM »
  Egyptologists  are divided  on this. Some say this should not be on public auction; others doubt the previous owner's  method of obtaining it -  still others doubt its' authenticity.
For my part, I think it IS authentic,and pictures the king, probably as either the god Khonsu or Amun; several statues of Amun from Karnak and Luxor  have the image of Tutankhamun as the deity's representative.
I think this should have returned to Karnak, given the dubious nature of its' acquisition.
     However, once again, this article shines a light on the modern illegal export of Egyptian antiquities which are looted from their original site without proper research.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48865336
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #217 on: July 08, 2019, 11:06:46 AM »
 Here we go again....
Latest speculations on yet more scans supposedly revealing hidden chambers  in the tomb of Tutankhamun, and what they contain.
Chambers, they might be, but who, if anyone, is there, I don't know.
I very much doubt it to be 'king' Nefertiti; I'm almost sure we have her -  the mummy labelled KV35YL,who, by DNA, seems to have been Tutankhamun's mother, and either sister, or, more likely, given the convoluted family tree, first cousin of Tutankhamun's father, Akhenaten.
So: What lies beneath - or beyond?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12247394&fbclid=IwAR3qFCUDGzmveu5H-FF6cA4fOOLGmyc2vxVC
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #218 on: July 08, 2019, 11:27:34 AM »
Still looks very unclear as to the situation. Lots of speculation for obvious reasons but I suspect this will run for some time.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #219 on: July 08, 2019, 01:21:19 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 08, 2019, 11:27:34 AM
Still looks very unclear as to the situation. Lots of speculation for obvious reasons but I suspect this will run for some time.
   

The Egyptian government will milk the situation for all its' worth; it brings in tourists to Luxor and the Valley of the Kings while the new Grand Egyptian Museum is being made ready, and the  Cairo museum reorganised.
Couple  that with the substantial Tutankhamun exhibition now touring the world (it reaches London in November) in an effort to raise more cash for the GEM, and the more delays there are, the better, as far as they are concerned.
They'll have to close KV 62 - Tutankhamun's tomb - to the public in order to investigate these anomalies; the best time for this would be the cooler times - when tourism is at its' height.
I can't see the attraction of the tomb myself; there are only the three rather crudely painted walls in the burial chamber to see....tourists ignore the  superbly decorated next door tomb of Ra messes VI which is plastered floor to ceiling of each chamber with superbly crafted paintings.

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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #220 on: July 08, 2019, 01:35:06 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on June 13, 2019, 09:06:44 AM
Not a find, but a controversy.
The stushie over the Elgin marbles can be seen as unique - it isn't. Multiply it with the plundering of antiquities from Egypt by rich tourists of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, and there's always a controversy on the go -  the last on these  shores being the infamous sale of the unique statue of Sekhemka.
This time, it's an auction  of a controversial bust of Tutankhamun.
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/335997/Egypt/Politics-/Egypt-calls-on-Christies-auction-house-in-London-t.aspx?fbclid=IwAR1Ra5wGD0PjaPuskHbY6uedhQDVTW5NiVXO61wxKBQ0W
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As I understand it, the Elgin marbles were not "plundered": they were bought by Lord Elgin from the Greek government of the day. You might argue that the Greek government should'nt've sold them, but the fact is that they did, so if Greece wants them back, they should pay us what Lord Elgin paid, adjusted for inflation.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #221 on: July 08, 2019, 01:55:04 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on July 08, 2019, 01:35:06 PM
As I understand it, the Elgin marbles were not "plundered": they were bought by Lord Elgin from the Greek government of the day. You might argue that the Greek government should'nt've sold them, but the fact is that they did, so if Greece wants them back, they should pay us what Lord Elgin paid, adjusted for inflation.

Greece could probably afford to buy and display the marbles properly, but the same isn't true of Egypt. Even were a tenth of the legally obtained antiquities returned, Egypt could not cope with providing buildings to display them. Add on the trade in illicit items - which are still dug up and exported, without knowing where they came from, and the problem's magnifued tenfold.
An example is Psametik I (father of the 'Necho mentioned in the Bible)
We know someone has found his tomb; 'shabti' figures, a few pots and a rather fine 'ka' statue which can only have come from a tomb, belonging to him have appeared on the black market,and a dwe confiscated from America, Austria and Saudi Arabia....but we can't find the tomb; some blighter's beaten the experts to it.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #222 on: July 08, 2019, 02:07:19 PM »
Although I do not always read a new post here immediately, I always catch up  on all posts since my last visit, since I have been very interested in AE since I was a child and have been fortunate enough to visit Giza twice and Luxor once.

I also occasionally challenge the more way-out ideas on the GH forum!! Mostly I don't bother though, as they really do lack credibility.
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #223 on: July 08, 2019, 02:16:50 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on July 08, 2019, 01:35:06 PM
As I understand it, the Elgin marbles were not "plundered": they were bought by Lord Elgin from the Greek government of the day. You might argue that the Greek government should'nt've sold them, but the fact is that they did, so if Greece wants them back, they should pay us what Lord Elgin paid, adjusted for inflation.
First of all the whole idea of that is questionable, but secondly there was not a Greek govt at the time
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« Reply #224 on: July 08, 2019, 02:30:34 PM »
Quote from: SusanDoris on July 08, 2019, 02:07:19 PM
Although I do not always read a new post here immediately, I always catch up  on all posts since my last visit, since I have been very interested in AE since I was a child and have been fortunate enough to visit Giza twice and Luxor once.

I also occasionally challenge the more way-out ideas on the GH forum!! Mostly I don't bother though, as they really do lack credibility.
   



Ah!
I was debating the Sphinx with a Hancockian pyramidiot last week....said debater claimed that the Sphinx was actually a representation of an extinct  "cat-ape" which died outten thousand years before the desertification of Egypt!
(look, stop laughing....)
He was somewhat miffed when I pointed out that the Giza Sphinx, whilst the largest by a country mile, wasn't the first sphinx to be made...we have two earlier ones, one bearing the head of a King - Djedefre - and the other his wife, Hetepheres II.#
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