Funerals

[floo]

Good job I ain't a Roman Catholic then. You're no better than Sass.

But you lot are of the Catholic tradition, with all its craziness!

[ad_orientem]

But you lot are of the Catholic tradition, with all its craziness!

  Clueless!

[floo]

Clueless!

Talking about yourself again?

[ad_orientem]

What have I taken?

[Robbie]

Floo, Orhtodox are quite distinct from Catholics.

What you'd call Roman Catholics are Catholics with a big C. Before Catholicism there was Orhodoxy. There are also different branches of Orhtooxy.

Speaking of catholic tradition, eg the Anglican, Episcopal, Methodist or Orthodox, you use lower case c. It means 'universal' and when speaking of Christian faith,applies to all whatever their differences.

You come across as prejudiced against Catholics but when you say ad-o is a Catholic you show you don't know that much & its not fair. If you engage in debate with people of other faiths or traditions you owe it to them to have some reliable information from which to start.

(sorry abouttyping, theres something about this laptop keyboard! Workman/woman blaming toolsof course.)

[Anchorman]

To Protestentism, perhaps, but for the Church Christ founded they are fully canonical and authoritative.

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Not to any reader of the New Testament, they aren't.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_395.cfm

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Not to any reader of the New Testament, they aren't.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_395.cfm

That's no more than Protestant drivel. They were accepted by the Church since the beginning. The Protestants did a Marcion and conveniently scrapped books they didn't like.

[floo]

That's no more than Protestant drivel. They were accepted by the Church since the beginning. The Protestants did a Marcion and conveniently scrapped books they didn't like.

If anyone is speaking drivel it is you!

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If anyone is speaking drivel it is you!

Go away!

[floo]

Go away!

Oh dear, obviously you don't like your silliness being challenged!

[Anchorman]

That's no more than Protestant drivel. They were accepted by the Church since the beginning. The Protestants did a Marcion and conveniently scrapped books they didn't like.

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We also scrapped stuff such as icons, mariolatry, hagiolatry, insence, robes and titles which aren't in the NT either.
Norty norty, eh?

[ad_orientem]

Oh dear, obviously you don't like your silliness being challenged!

Challenged? But you don't even do that. You just rotate a number of opinions you have about "the deity". If they had any less substance they'd cease to exist altogether.

[floo]

YAWN!

[Robbie]

Oh dear, obviously you don't like your silliness being challenged!

Floo, did you read my last post? I'm not setting myself up as authority but i do think it is worth a read. Please.

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We also scrapped stuff such as icons, mariolatry, hagiolatry, insence, robes and titles which aren't in the NT either.
Norty norty, eh?

Again, tell me where Jacob's Cream Crackers and Ribena are in the NT. But then we're not the ones claiming to be scripture alone. We consider the scriptures to be one part of a much wider tradition. Take the scriptures out of that tradition then you can't understand them properly.

[Robbie]

Honestly! I understand you &Flu scrapping but not you & Anchorman. You both think you're right but where is the grace?
You both worship the same Christ.

[floo]

Getting back to the subject of funerals, I think the day will come sooner or later, when burial space runs out and cremations will be insisted upon. It would be a fantastic if the energy produced by cremating the dead could be linked to the National Grid in some way.

[Robbie]

I presume you didn't read my last but one post, floo.

Crematoriums are already linked in some areas to local heating - swimming pools are an example.

There are more cremations than burials but one can have an eco-friendly burial with biodegradable coffin. Daisies will be pushed up and no air pollution.

[floo]

I presume you didn't read my last but one post, floo.

Crematoriums are already linked in some areas to local heating - swimming pools are an example.

There are more cremations than burials but one can have an eco-friendly burial with biodegradable coffin. Daisies will be pushed up and no air pollution.

Yes I realise that, but I think all should be linked up to the National Grid if that was possible, and hopefully that would help to bring down the cost of fuel.

You might have a biodegradable coffin, but bodies don't completely biodegrade. Besides which, space which could be put to much better use, has to be provided for even so called eco-friendly burial.

[ad_orientem]

Getting back to the subject of funerals, I think the day will come sooner or later, when burial space runs out and cremations will be insisted upon. It would be a fantastic if the energy produced by cremating the dead could be linked to the National Grid in some way.

There's no way I'm going out like a heathen. Burial expresses our hope in the resurrection.

[ad_orientem]

Honestly! I understand you &Flu scrapping but not you & Anchorman. You both think you're right but where is the grace?
You both worship the same Christ.

Maybe we do, maybe we don't. Protestantism makes it up as it goes along.

[Robbie]

The same accusation is levelled at your beliefs ad_o.
I sit on the fence here because I see integrity in both. It isn't worth scrapping about.

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The same accusation is levelled at your beliefs ad_o.
I sit on the fence here because I see integrity in both. It isn't worth scrapping about.

I'm sure there are many Protestants who do think that of us. In fact I've stumbled across many on other forums. I tend not to take any notice of them. I would go so far as to say discussion with Protestantism is unfruitful at best. That is why I'm not an ecumenist, at least not in the modern sense.

[Anchorman]

Thank God - literally - that the Orthodox lecturer (and later bishop) under whom I studied at Glasgow did not share the same opinion, and that ecumenism was his great passion. He shared fellowship in Christ with CofS, Congregationalists, Baptists and Independent Evangelicals without batting an eyelid. He used to drive a rather reprehensable VW beetle - with the car sticker "All one in Christ Jesus!" Works for me!

[ad_orientem]

Thank God - literally - that the Orthodox lecturer (and later bishop) under whom I studied at Glasgow did not share the same opinion, and that ecumenism was his great passion. He shared fellowship in Christ with CofS, Congregationalists, Baptists and Independent Evangelicals without batting an eyelid. He used to drive a rather reprehensable VW beetle - with the car sticker "All one in Christ Jesus!" Works for me!

I'm not an ecumenist in the modern sense. Ecumenism in the traditional sense means bringing those Christians outise the Church back to Orthodoxy which begins, of course, with prayer.