Magic

[BeRational]

Believing in magic is gullibility.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Berational,

Is believing in miracles a type of gullibility.

I see gullible people, everywhere!

I see miracles everywhere.

Gonnagle.

[BeRational]

Dear Berational,

Is believing in miracles a type of gullibility.
 I see miracles everywhere.

Gonnagle.

You must be very gullible.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Berational,

AYE!! Me and wee Albert.

Albert Einstein.

There are only two ways to live your life: as though nothing is a miracle, or as though everything is a miracle.

Gonnagle.

[BeRational]

You do know that Einstein was not a theist?

You seem to quote him as if he supports your position.

He does not and would not have approved.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Berational,

You do know he was not an atheist, what I do know, he was a genius, a very deep thinking man, on all sorts of topics, and if he was alive, I think he would just laugh at my hero worship of him.

Gonnagle.

[BeRational]

He did not believe in a personal god and thought it was childish.

If you think so much of his opinion, why don't you?

[Gonnagle]

Dear Berational,

Do you have a hero, do you agree with everything they say, but what does a personal God mean?

Gonnagle.

[BeRational]

Dear Berational,

Do you have a hero, do you agree with everything they say, but what does a personal God mean?

Gonnagle.

I do not keep quoting people either. A point stands on its own merit no matter who makes it.

Einstein was a genius but he knew no more about gods than I do.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Berational,

Einstein was a genius but he knew no more about gods than I do.

Agreed, but he never dismissed the idea of God.

Gonnagle.

[BeRational]

Dear Berational,

Agreed, but he never dismissed the idea of God.

Gonnagle.

He did your God which he called man made and childish.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Berational,

Did he? Maybe you can explain to me what my God is, I for the life of me don't know what my God is, at present.

Gonnagle.

[BeRational]

Dear Berational,

Did he? Maybe you can explain to me what my God is, I for the life of me don't know what my God is, at present.

Gonnagle.

How can you believe something when you do not know what is?

[Gonnagle]

Dear Berational,

How can you disbelieve something when you don't know what it is.

Gonnagle.

[Sebastian Toe]

I think your link is more about pyrotechnics used for special effects in movies than about magic. And ekim's link is about old style stage magic...and even that rather naive IMO.

If anyone can find an explanation for the above two videos I have given...please feel free.

Dynamo is walking on a platform which is just far enough under the water to not be seen easily and also to allow shallow bottom boats such as the two canoes to pass over it. This adds to the illusion. The police boat that 'rescues' him would not be able to pass over it though!

[Stranger]

Maybe you can explain to me what my God is, I for the life of me don't know what my God is, at present.

That doesn't make any sense. How do you know to call it 'god' if you don't know what it is? How does the phrase "I believe in god" mean anything at all?

"I believe in vanfugzod."
"What is vanfugzod?"
"No idea."

See? It doesn't make sense...

[Gonnagle]

Dear Stranger,

No, what you have just posted makes no sense, but I become a bit weary of repeating myself on this forum, being constantly asked to explain, you know what!! I sometimes have the feeling that no one really reads my posts but that can't be, I am just being silly, my post are always wind swept and interesting.

Tell you what old son!! Take a couple of hours out, check out my profile and go to my posts, I don't know how far they go back but it might give you a sense of where I am coming from, on the other hand, you might come to the concussion that that Gonnagle type person is a right weirdo

Gonnagle.

[ippy]

Dear Berational,

How can you disbelieve something when you don't know what it is.

Gonnagle.

Gonners how many times do you need to be told that people that don't believe in gods don't disbelieve in them; how do you disbelieve in something that's not there in the first place to disbelieve in and there is no supportable evidence for the existence of gods other than inside the imaginations of, sadly, a lot of people.

ippy

[Gonnagle]

Dear ippy, Darling ippy,

Lots.

Gonnagle.

[Bubbles]

Gonners how many times do you need to be told that people that don't believe in gods don't disbelieve in them; how do you disbelieve in something that's not there in the first place to disbelieve in and there is no supportable evidence for the existence of gods other than inside the imaginations of, sadly, a lot of people.

ippy

What?

Lots of people disbelieve in Santa and he isn't there.

If someone tells you how they think God is in their religion and that you should believe it too, and you don't believe it, you disbelieve.

Of course they disbelieve, they disbelieve in a scenario put forward by someone else.

Your logic is faulty, ippy.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Rose,

Careful, be very careful, they will drop down from the rafters and start pursuing young ladies in skimpy negligees who leave their veranda windows open oops sorry that's Vampires, my mistake.

Gonnagle.

[Bubbles]

Dear Rose,

Careful, be very careful, they will drop down from the rafters and start pursuing young ladies in skimpy negligees who leave their veranda windows open oops sorry that's Vampires, my mistake.

Gonnagle.

No danger to me then Gonnagle 🤣

[BeRational]

Dear Berational,

How can you disbelieve something when you don't know what it is.

Gonnagle.

Simple!

That is the DEFAULT position.

I disbelieve everything until I see evidence to believe it.

This is where we differ. My position is rational, yours is  not.

[ippy]

What?

Lots of people disbelieve in Santa and he isn't there.

If someone tells you how they think God is in their religion and that you should believe it too, and you don't believe it, you disbelieve.

Of course they disbelieve, they disbelieve in a scenario put forward by someone else.

Your logic is faulty, ippy.

O K Rose, where are these gods I'm supposed to disbelieve in?

Where is there any viable evidence that would support the god or gods idea?

Gonners lots of people used to think the sun revolved around the earth, it doesn't matter how many believe something like that and they're wrong, double or triple the numbers and they're still wrong; but there if there's something you're determind to not understand  I suppose you wont.

ippy

[Bubbles]

O K Rose, where are these gods I'm supposed to disbelieve in?

Where is there any viable evidence that would support the god or gods idea?

Gonners lots of people used to think the sun revolved around the earth, it doesn't matter how many believe something like that and they're wrong, double or triple the numbers and they're still wrong; but there if there's something you're determind to not understand  I suppose you wont.

ippy

Ippy, you miss the point.

Someone puts up a Gods scenario, and you disbelieve it.

It doesn't matter if it's Jesus, Thor or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

People disbelieve in them, because they don't accept other people's beliefs about them.


Disbelieve
be unable to believe.
"he seemed to disbelieve her"
synonyms:   not believe, not credit, give no credence to, discredit, discount, doubt, distrust, mistrust, be suspicious of, have no confidence/faith in, be incredulous of, be unconvinced about; not accept, reject, repudiate, question, challenge, contradict; informaltake with a pinch of salt
"he totally disbelieved her"
incredulous, unbelieving, doubtful, dubious, unconvinced;
distrustful, mistrustful, suspicious, lacking trust, cynical, sceptical
"he gave a disbelieving laugh"


Lots of people are unconvinced that gods of any sort exist, they disbelieve.