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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #125 on: May 19, 2017, 12:36:55 PM »
A month of being veggie except for two lapses when I unthinkingly got something out of the fridge to snack on, one was taramasalata. There wasn't much left so I finished the tub,didn't think about it until afterwards. The other thing was someone gave me a meal &it had a bit of chicken chopped up tiny in it, I'd never have guessed.

I'm enjoying it and will continue.
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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #126 on: May 19, 2017, 01:11:43 PM »
A month of being veggie except for two lapses when I unthinkingly got something out of the fridge to snack on, one was taramasalata. There wasn't much left so I finished the tub,didn't think about it until afterwards. The other thing was someone gave me a meal &it had a bit of chicken chopped up tiny in it, I'd never have guessed.

I'm enjoying it and will continue.

Great Robbie! Keep it up!  :)

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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #127 on: May 19, 2017, 01:14:56 PM »
Thanks, I will. :D
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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #132 on: May 20, 2017, 07:58:35 AM »


Thanks Robbie. Yeah...I have watched Nigella's TV cooking shows many times along with my wife.

Her way of looking at the camera and the way she tastes her food ....is generally considered as 'food porn'.  :D

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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #133 on: June 12, 2017, 04:20:21 PM »


What would happen if the whole world turned vegetarian....

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170612-the-consequences-if-the-world-decided-to-go-meat-free

More positives than negatives.

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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #134 on: June 12, 2017, 04:21:49 PM »

What would happen if the whole world turned vegetarian....

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170612-the-consequences-if-the-world-decided-to-go-meat-free

More positives than negatives.

Well it's not going to!

The things it lists as positives, are not positives.


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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #135 on: June 12, 2017, 04:38:47 PM »

What would happen if the whole world turned vegetarian....

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170612-the-consequences-if-the-world-decided-to-go-meat-free

More positives than negatives.

If your definition of 'vegetarian' allows the eating of milk products and eggs, you're on a loser, unless you're into genetic engineering. Milk requires the birth of calves, almost half of which will be male - what are you going to do with all of those?

Mushrooms are of course not plants - how do you know they don't suffer (being closer to the animal branch of evolution). how do you know plants don't suffer?
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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #136 on: June 12, 2017, 07:08:05 PM »
Hi everyone,

Here are some vegetarian recipes for Easter...from BBC.

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/vegetarian-easter-menu

Let the animals have a Happy Easter too!

Cheers.

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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #137 on: June 12, 2017, 07:35:54 PM »
If your definition of 'vegetarian' allows the eating of milk products and eggs

Why wouldn't it? That's strictly correct. It's not his definition, her definition, my definition or your definition: it's the definition. It's what the word means.

Now: there's a discussion to be had about whether vegetarianism is enough and whether people should really go vegan if they are serious about animal suffering, environmental impact, etc. That's a big old chinwag worthy of its own thread, and another discussion for another day. But vegetarianism per se does allow for the consumption of milk and eggs - it's veganism (different thing: hence different term) that doesn't.

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Milk requires the birth of calves, almost half of which will be male - what are you going to do with all of those?
For myself, I wouldn't breed them at all in the first place. Supply exists only to meet demand, as I'm sure you know.

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Mushrooms are of course not plants - how do you know they don't suffer (being closer to the animal branch of evolution). how do you know plants don't suffer?
Negative proof fallacy aside for the nonce (and I don't often say that), they don't have the neural equipment that we already know is associated with the subjective feeling of pain. Could we be wrong about this? Yes. Is there any evidence for being wrong about this? None whatever. Is it probable? No. Is "Butbutbutbut what about the plants feeling pain?" a dickheadish non-question typically posed by people more interested in point-scoring than anything substantive such as non-human pain, environmental degradation and so forth? Hell yes.
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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #138 on: June 12, 2017, 08:31:36 PM »
Was thinking about what you said Dicky but Shaker has more or less said it for me.

Vegetarians go as far as they feel they can to minimise animal suffering, hence eating and drinking dairy products.

In this country there has been a revolution in animal farming in recent years. Calves stay with their mothers for longer and have a better life whereas in the past they were taken almost immediately after birth which was distressing for both mother and calf. Of course eventually they will either grow up into beef cattle or will be killed and sold as veal (veal is something I have never touched) - nothing is perfect.

We don't live in a vegetarian world Dicky so we have to make the best of it but organic milk comes from cows who are not intensively farmed.

Mushrooms are fungi, some people don't fancy them anyway because they feed off decayed matter but they do not have a nervous system, cannot think, so as far as we know they don't suffer.  In any case, like plants, once they are picked they're dead.
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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #139 on: June 13, 2017, 06:44:53 AM »

Actually, in India vegetarianism means no egg or even egg products like cakes and stuff. We therefore have eggless cakes, eggless mayonnaise and so on.
Most people (including me) reject mushrooms.   Most Brahmins and Jains  exclude even garlic and onions because they are are believed to induce sexual passion (mild aphrodisiacs).

Milk is accepted because, as mammals, milk is considered natural for humans. Milk was traditionally taken from cows only after feeding the calf.  Leather was a post death product and hence accepted.

Veganism would be better of course.

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« Reply #140 on: June 13, 2017, 07:20:41 AM »
Vegan doesn't appeal.

At all.

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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #141 on: June 13, 2017, 08:24:05 AM »
I exclude garlic and mayonaise but only because they're the two vilest food stuffs on the planet.
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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #142 on: June 13, 2017, 08:27:21 AM »
I exclude garlic and mayonaise but only because they're the two vilest food stuffs on the planet.

I like garlic and mayo. :)

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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #143 on: June 13, 2017, 09:27:37 AM »
I exclude garlic and mayonaise but only because they're the two vilest food stuffs on the planet.

I guess you haven't tried durian fruit then.

Or asafoetida.

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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #144 on: June 13, 2017, 10:09:03 AM »
I've known quite a lot of people who won't eat mushrooms, can't bear to even see or think of them! Not an ideological stance, more about the way they are grown.

It's never occurred to me that onions and garlic cause passion. Well, well, well! I'm cooking French Onion Soup tonight!

Not eating eggs is understandable when you consider how hens have been treated,living in miserable conditions and existing only to lay egg after egg. It was pitiful. Same for the way poultry was reared in factories. It was quite scandalous.

We don't have battery farmed hens' eggs here now and personally I've only bought free range for as long as I can remember (seomthing else I've never touched is shell fish& crustaceans).

I wonder if the Hindu objection to eggs is because they are embryonic chickens & therefore type of meat/poultry.

Though some Hindus do eat poultry and fish.

(Rose I couldn't see myself going as far as being vegan. Vegetarian is far enough for me & must say  I'm happy with that now. Went out for meal on Sunday, had a good vegetarian meal but remembered how much I liked sea bass and salmon in that restaruant in the past.)
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« Reply #145 on: June 13, 2017, 10:17:06 AM »
But mushrooms grow in the dirt and what is dirt really? Dead things which have either broken down or are in the process of breaking down.

It's true some grow on trees and stuff, but is that really different to this?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/gardeningequipment/11369289/Straw-bale-gardening-is-it-any-good.html

Not sure why mushrooms make people sqeemish
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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #146 on: June 13, 2017, 10:51:39 AM »
They don't make me squeamish either Rose. I really like them & they're versatile.
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« Reply #147 on: June 13, 2017, 10:56:33 AM »
They don't make me squeamish either Rose. I really like them & they're versatile.

 I like fresh ones, but tinned ones have to be used in something tasty.

Eating tinned ones in a fry up is a bit tasteless and remind me of slugs 😉

I'm not sure what goes wrong with the tinned sliced ones but they are a bit yuck if not flavoured up in some way.

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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #148 on: June 13, 2017, 11:12:37 AM »
I've known quite a lot of people who won't eat mushrooms, can't bear to even see or think of them! Not an ideological stance, more about the way they are grown.

It's never occurred to me that onions and garlic cause passion. Well, well, well! I'm cooking French Onion Soup tonight!

Not eating eggs is understandable when you consider how hens have been treated,living in miserable conditions and existing only to lay egg after egg. It was pitiful. Same for the way poultry was reared in factories. It was quite scandalous.

We don't have battery farmed hens' eggs here now and personally I've only bought free range for as long as I can remember (seomthing else I've never touched is shell fish& crustaceans).

I wonder if the Hindu objection to eggs is because they are embryonic chickens & therefore type of meat/poultry.

Though some Hindus do eat poultry and fish.

(Rose I couldn't see myself going as far as being vegan. Vegetarian is far enough for me & must say  I'm happy with that now. Went out for meal on Sunday, had a good vegetarian meal but remembered how much I liked sea bass and salmon in that restaruant in the past.)



Fertilized egg is of course no no. Unfertilized egg is just the egg getting released....err...sorry....but something like a woman menstruating. Not really food IMO!

Yes...many Hindus are non veg. Some people especially the  poorer sections, eat everything including sea food.  There is a gradation in food also.  Normally the upper castes were strict vegetarians, while the lower castes could eat anything depending on their needs.   



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Re: Be a vegetarian this Easter!
« Reply #149 on: June 13, 2017, 11:30:06 AM »
I like fresh ones, but tinned ones have to be used in something tasty.

Eating tinned ones in a fry up is a bit tasteless and remind me of slugs 😉

I'm not sure what goes wrong with the tinned sliced ones but they are a bit yuck if not flavoured up in some way.

Never had tinned mushrooms.
Big mushrooms sliced and put in sauces or casseroles remind me VERY MUCH of slugs! So I avoid.
Big portabello mushrooms, whole, are nice.
I generally buy chestnut mushrooms, some big, some small, and occasionally button mushrooms,and use in all sorts.  Nice in omelettes with cheese.

Sririam I've just had two boiled Brown Burford eggs, then read your post.

Never thought of it like that before  :o.
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