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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #226 on: April 27, 2017, 07:52:05 PM »
The Euro is a fundamental part of the EU political project. They go hand in hand. If the Euro crashes so does the EU project.
The Eurozone is fundamentally distinct from the EU as proven by our membership of the latter but not the former. The EU was fine before the Euro, it  will be fine if it fails - which it won't.
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #227 on: April 27, 2017, 08:18:44 PM »
The Eurozone is fundamentally distinct from the EU as proven by our membership of the latter but not the former. The EU was fine before the Euro, it  will be fine if it fails - which it won't.
It is a fundamental part of the Maastricht treaty and this is born out by the fact that all new members have to work towards joining it. What you mention is a product of the fact of how the EU has evolved which meant some older members had the clout to not to be subject to this rule. But the fact is the daemons in the commission and all their fallen angels would have this for everyone if they could.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #228 on: April 27, 2017, 08:28:49 PM »
some older members had the clout to not to be subject to this rule.
So not fundamental
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #229 on: April 27, 2017, 08:39:28 PM »
So not fundamental
Yes it is, just that the daemons had to accommodate existing members, against their desired wishes because the Euro wasn't written in as being a fundamental requirement in 1957.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #230 on: April 27, 2017, 11:26:45 PM »
We have cross-over.

Over the past few weeks there has been a consistent reduction in those saying 'right' and increase in those saying 'wrong' to the question:

'In hindsight, do you think Britain was right or wrong to vote to leave the EU?'

For the first time since this question was asked last summer we have a majority saying 'wrong'.

So on the 26th April (excluding don't knows) 48.9% said 'right', 51.1% said 'wrong'

Which if figures were remaining fairly constant will be within the margin of error of no change. Claiming that this one data point is the significant one or is part of a trend given the previous results seems a bit much to me.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #231 on: April 28, 2017, 12:27:12 AM »
'What is your name?'
Strong and Stable Govt
'What is your favourite colour?'
Strong and stable Govt
'What is the air speed velocity of a swallow?'
Strong and stable Govt


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39740582


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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #233 on: April 28, 2017, 08:42:01 AM »
'What is your name?'
Strong and Stable Govt
'What is your favourite colour?'
Strong and stable Govt
'What is the air speed velocity of a swallow?'
Strong and stable Govt


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39740582

"What is your religion?"
Strong and Stable Govt
"What is your favourite food?"
Strong and Stable Govt
"What is your greatest love?"
Strong and Stable Govt
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #234 on: April 28, 2017, 09:28:16 AM »
 ;D hilarious!

Forgot to ask what is favourite TV prog.
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #235 on: April 28, 2017, 10:06:43 AM »
;D hilarious!

Forgot to ask what is favourite TV prog.

Has to be 'Yes Prime Minister', surely!

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #236 on: April 28, 2017, 10:24:30 AM »
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Theresa May would fire UK’s nuclear weapons as a ‘first strike’, says Defence Secretary Michael Fallon.

Theresa May would fire Britain’s nuclear weapons as a ‘first strike’ if necessary, the Defence Secretary has said.

Michael Fallon said the Prime Minister was prepared to launch Trident in “the most extreme circumstances”, even if Britain itself was not under nuclear attack....

... he went further, marking out a clear divide between the parties when asked if Ms May was ready to use Trident as a “pre-emptive initial strike”.

“In the most extreme circumstances, we have made it very clear that you can’t rule out the use of nuclear weapons as a first strike,” Mr Fallon said.

Asked in what circumstances, he replied: “They are better not specified or described, which would only give comfort to our enemies and make the deterrent less credible.

“The whole point about the deterrent is that you have got to leave uncertainty in the mind of anyone who might be thinking of using weapons against this country.”

Mr Fallon also insisted that critics of Trident – including senior military figures who have ridiculed the idea that it is an effective deterrent – were “absolutely wrong”.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-nuclear-weapons-first-strike-michael-fallon-general-election-jeremy-corbyn-trident-a7698621.html

Hmmm.. so where exactly are these weapons of mass destruction based and who or what are supposed to be "deterred" by us having them?
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #237 on: April 28, 2017, 10:43:40 AM »

'What is your name?'
Strong and Stable Govt
'What is your favourite colour?'
Strong and stable Govt
'What is the airspeed velocity of a swallow?'
Strong and stable Govt


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39740582

Have you seen David Schneiders tweet on Wednesdays PNQ's?

https://twitter.com/davidschneider/status/857345301220397056
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #238 on: April 28, 2017, 10:58:14 AM »
Have you seen David Schneiders tweet on Wednesdays PNQ's?

https://twitter.com/davidschneider/status/857345301220397056

Ha! Of course in Scotland they want 'Stong' and stable govt - see leaflet in link below. They also use a distorted histogram - otherwise known as a lie.


https://electionleaflets.org/leaflets/13831/images/

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #239 on: April 28, 2017, 11:03:24 AM »

Here the PM implies rape is a lifestyle choice and demonstrates  that she doesn't understand how Child Tax Credit works.


https://www.thecanary.co/2017/04/27/theresa-may-stand-indefensible-comments-rape-video/

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #240 on: April 28, 2017, 11:04:22 AM »
I know.. weird innit!!

Up here the Tory and Labour party seem obsessed with Scottish Independence, they should really go to a consultant and see if they can get some cream for this fetish!!

Hope they soon realise that it is an Election that is happening in June and not an ominous sort of referendum which they seem to have fixated on!!
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #241 on: April 28, 2017, 11:11:52 AM »
I know.. weird innit!!

Up here the Tory and Labour party seem obsessed with Scottish Independence, they should really go to a consultant and see if they can get some cream for this fetish!!

Hope they soon realise that it is an Election that is happening in June and not an ominous sort of referendum which they seem to have fixated on!!


Not just that but apparently the council elections are also about independence for the Tories. I got a nice wee leaflet from the SNP about traffic, and parks, and bins, and such. But according to the Tory one the council election is about constitutional matters.

Not sure if you will have seen this from Ian Murray. He could have had the grace not to shift the whole blame onto the printers for his campaign's fuck up.

https://twitter.com/IanMurrayMP/status/857725580422385664?s=09

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #242 on: April 28, 2017, 11:26:35 AM »
Theresa May campaigning hard in 'this particular town'



https://twitter.com/RossCrombie/status/857710963818156034?s=09

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #243 on: April 28, 2017, 12:08:38 PM »
The irony is that Mrs May comes across as vacillating about various things.    There will not be an election, oh, hang on, there will be.   Scotland must wait until Brexit is settled, before a  vote - but hang on, the UK need not wait.   We will change National Insurance, oh, no, we won't.   Miliband's  energy cap is rank Bolshevism - but hang on, we have our version of it.

So 'strong and stable' sounds like the drunk who keeps saying 'sober tomorrow'.  On the other hand, none of this probably matters, since elections are not normally decided  by stuff like this.   
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #244 on: April 28, 2017, 07:28:37 PM »
'What is your name?'
Strong and Stable Govt
'What is your favourite colour?'
Strong and stable Govt
'What is the air speed velocity of a swallow?'
Strong and stable Govt


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39740582
How did Stalin rule? Strong and stable leader........works both ways.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #245 on: April 28, 2017, 07:40:31 PM »
Yes it is,
No it isn't.

Should the UK decide to rejoin the EU in a few years time, but we said "No Euro", the EU would accommodate our wishes.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #246 on: April 28, 2017, 07:41:08 PM »
'What is your name?'
Strong and Stable Govt
'What is your favourite colour?'
Strong and stable Govt
'What is the air speed velocity of a swallow?'
Strong and stable Govt


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39740582
What do you mean? African or European?
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #247 on: April 28, 2017, 07:53:24 PM »
No it isn't.

Should the UK decide to rejoin the EU in a few years time, but we said "No Euro", the EU would accommodate our wishes.
Why?

If we were asking to re-join then it would be from desperate need not from sober choice. So they would use this to force us to accept the Euro as this is their wet dream.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #248 on: April 28, 2017, 07:56:20 PM »
What do you mean? African or European?
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I wished I'd spotted that.  :-[

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #249 on: April 28, 2017, 07:56:43 PM »
Why?

Because they want us more than they want us to accept the Euro.

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If we were asking to re-join then it would be from desperate need not from sober choice.
No we might rejoin because we actually want to be good neighbours. At some point all the people who want to live in the 50's when |Auld England was Merrie will be dead and the people left will be able to build a hopeful future in which our neighbours are our friends, not our enemies.
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