UK General Election 2017

[floo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39892281

Corbyn claiming he is not a pacifist might surprise, if not distress, some Labour voters.

[Robbie]

Was May stupid or lying?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-election-spending-rules-latest-theresa-may-nicola-sturgeon-snp-a7729256.html

Stupid, she certainly isn't very well informed for a Prime Minister making a gaffe like that. She must have advisers like any other PM, what are they doing to earn a crust?

(Btw, Question Time was from Scotland last night and very good. I was impressed with David Hayman.)

[Robbie]

Floo (morning!) I don't think it will disappoint too many. Even pacifists don't expect a pacifist PM (not saying he will be PM  ),but he takes a moderate stand. What he says shows he wouldn't rule out military action but he isn't going to plough in all guns blazing at drop of hat & wants to be independent of Trump. That's hte attitude I believe most voters would be happy with.

(Going back to my previoujs comment about QT, impressed with David Hayman wanting to get rid of Trident & reasons he gave.)

[floo]

I think the biggest mistake we could make would be to get rid of Trident and our nuclear arsenal.

[Aruntraveller]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39892281

Corbyn claiming he is not a pacifist might surprise, if not distress, some Labour voters.

Don't see why. I can't think of any Labour leaders, save perhaps Michael Foot, who were out and out pacifists. If anything it may well reassure some Labour waverers.

[Nearly Sane]

Don't see why. I can't think of any Labour leaders, save perhaps Michael Foot, who were out and out pacifists. If anything it may well reassure some Labour waverers.

It's odd that a political leader gives a reasonable and nuanced explanation of his political position that he has held consistently and he is apparently then just 'claiming' not to be something that he has never stated he was.

[Aruntraveller]

It's odd that a political leader gives a reasonable and nuanced explanation of his political position that he has held consistently and he is apparently then just 'claiming' not to be something that he has never stated he was.

The phrase "reasonable & nuanced explanation" goes to the heart of political discourse in this country. We have been discouraged, perhaps even conditioned, to reject reason and nuance. Depressing in the extreme.

[Nearly Sane]

The phrase "reasonable & nuanced explanation" goes to the heart of political discourse in this country. We have been discouraged, perhaps even conditioned, to reject reason and nuance. Depressing in the extreme.

Nuance is such a weak and unstable word. Like a fox, it should be hunted down lest it give rise to a coalition of chaos.

[Robbie]

Don't see why. I can't think of any Labour leaders, save perhaps Michael Foot, who were out and out pacifists. If anything it may well reassure some Labour waverers.

Agree with that. Was thinking, 'Have we ever had pacifist leader?' & you've answered my question. In any case, even if by inclination Jeremy Corbyn is a pacifist he has to consider the electorate,most of which don't want war but are prepared to defend themselves if necessary.

Floo

I think the biggest mistake we could make would be to get rid of Trident and our nuclear arsenal.

There isn't the money to make and support the aeroplanes needed to fly Trident floo (a point made by David Hayman on last night's QT). It's a complete waste of funds desperately needed elsewhere.to maintain something so expensive that will almost certainly not be used.

[Nearly Sane]

Interesting


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-manifesto-poll-voters-back-policies-jeremy-corbyn-latest-a7731536.html

[Gonnagle]

Dear Tallyhoo old chap,


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39861011

Next vote in Parliament, should we bring back sticking young kids up your chimney

Gonnagle.

[Robbie]

..or indeed bring back capital punishment?

Still regarding fox hunting Mrs May "said it was up to Parliament to take the decision." so is only her opinion.

[wigginhall]

I live near a street called 'Workhouse Lane'.  Come  on, snowflakes, that would make the poor sit up and  stop their sniveling!

[Nearly Sane]

I live near a street called 'Workhouse Lane'.  Come  on, snowflakes, that would make the poor sit up and  stop their sniveling!

Perhaps there will be land reform/reforma agraria


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_hunting

[Robbie]

Ooooh, shudder.

Then there's this-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressment

(I googled Press Gang and came up with a TV series & an ironing service!)

[wigginhall]

Let's face it, the poor have had it easy for too long, sitting around watching Sky, drinking Special Brew or smoking weed, producing umpteen children by different fathers, who we are then supposed to support.   What exactly is the point of the poor?  None whatsoever, so I hope that Kim Jong May will rapidly find a way to get rid of them.   I suggest  after Brexit,  that we export them to the EU.  Then there is compost, of course.

[Nearly Sane]

Let's face it, the poor have had it easy for too long, sitting around watching Sky, drinking Special Brew or smoking weed, producing umpteen children by different fathers, who we are then supposed to support.   What exactly is the point of the poor?  None whatsoever, so I hope that Kim Jong May will rapidly find a way to get rid of them.   I suggest  after Brexit,  that we export them to the EU.  Then there is compost, of course.

Eat the NEETs

[floo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39897999

Apparently the Lib Dems are going to legalise cannabis for personal use if they win the election!!!! Don't they realise it can cause people to become psychotic, and may encourage some to try even more harmful drugs like cocaine and heroin!

[Gonnagle]

Dear Wigs,

I live near a street called 'Workhouse Lane'.  Come  on, snowflakes, that would make the poor sit up and  stop their sniveling!

The poor, yes that's the answer!!

Dear Prime Minister,

How are you old duck is your hubby still taking out the bins Anyway on the subject of all that ails old blighty, how about a cull of all the poor people  Now that is a definite vote winner.

Dear Gonners,

Hi!! It's your favourite Prime Minister here, on the subject of culling the poor people, are you a bit slow a bit stupid! we call it austerity and it's working you saddo!

Dear Prime Minister,

Saddo! That's a bit harsh, oh sorry I was forgetting, you are the Iron Maiden, oops sorry again, wrong PM, she was not for turning you on the other hand..................

Gonnagle.

[Nearly Sane]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39897999

Apparently the Lib Dems are going to legalise cannabis for personal use if they win the election!!!! Don't they realise it can cause people to become psychotic, and may encourage some to try even more harmful drugs like cocaine and heroin!

I presume from the report they are legalising hash, in which case the connection with psychosis is highly questionable, never mind the difficulty of doing studies on illegal drugs.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/sifting-the-evidence/2015/feb/16/does-smoking-skunk-cause-psychosis-but-milder-cannabis-doesnt.

Further the idea behind legalising is to remove it from the harder drugs are offered. Could you provide evidence from Uruguay where it is legal to back up your position?

[Robbie]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39897999

Apparently the Lib Dems are going to legalise cannabis for personal use if they win the election!!!! Don't they realise it can cause people to become psychotic, and may encourage some to try even more harmful drugs like cocaine and heroin!

If cannabis is legalised iat will be decent stuff, not like what is now sprayed andgrown with chemicals which cause psychosis. '`Ordinary' cannabis does not cause any harmful long term effects.

[floo]

If cannabis is legalised iat will be decent stuff, not like what is now sprayed andgrown with chemicals which cause psychosis. '`Ordinary' cannabis does not cause any harmful long term effects.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm! Fortunately the Lib Dems haven't a cat's chance in hell of becoming the Government of this country, thank goodness

[SqueakyVoice]

If cannabis is legalised iat will be decent stuff, not like what is now sprayed andgrown with chemicals which cause psychosis. '`Ordinary' cannabis does not cause any harmful long term effects.

Chemicals, eh? Dihydrogen monoxide can cause death if breathed in.

[Nearly Sane]

Chemicals, eh? Dihydrogen monoxide can cause death if breathed in.

and yet they pump it in to schools!!!

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Chemicals, eh? Dihydrogen monoxide can cause death if breathed in.

Crikey! Water-way to go!!!