UK General Election 2017

[Harrowby Hall]

But France's choice was not between a Corbyn and a May but between a Corbyn and a Farage.

[jakswan]

But France's choice was not between a Corbyn and a May but between a Corbyn and a Farage.

Suspect you are thinking of the wrong election!

[ProfessorDavey]

But France's choice was not between a Corbyn and a May but between a Corbyn and a Farage.

No it wasn't - it was between LePen on the hard right and an avowed centrist, and ex-soft left (Macron).

The best UK comparison would be Farage vs Umuna (if he lead a centrist breakaway party).

[jakswan]

No it wasn't - it was between LePen on the hard right and an avowed centrist, and ex-soft left (Macron).

The best UK comparison would be Farage vs Umuna (if he lead a centrist breakaway party).

François Hollande, Nicolas Sarkozy, France elected Hollande, increased taxes on the rich ended his reign as one of the most unpopular Presidents in France's history.

[Nearly Sane]

François Hollande, Nicolas Sarkozy, France elected Hollande, increased taxes on the rich ended his reign as one of the most unpopular Presidents in France's history.

That's a somewhat simplistic analysis of Hollande's period as President. Nothing about pension reform in terms of increasing contributions in non Corbyn manner? Or reduction in worker's rights?

[ProfessorDavey]

François Hollande, Nicolas Sarkozy, France elected Hollande, increased taxes on the rich ended his reign as one of the most unpopular Presidents in France's history.

I think HH was talking about the most recent French election - hence the comparison.

[ProfessorDavey]

That's a somewhat simplistic analysis of Hollande's period as President. Nothing about pension reform in terms of increasing contributions in non Corbyn manner? Or reduction in worker's rights?

Or, of course, the impact of multiple terror attacks.

[Nearly Sane]

Or, of course, the impact of multiple terror attacks.

Surely those are in the category of events and aren't really about differences between Corbyn and Hollande? On the subject though, Hollande's support for the intervention in Libya seems unlikely from Corbyn.

[jakswan]

Or, of course, the impact of multiple terror attacks.

Which increased his popularity before it nosedived again as I recall. I don't think Corbyn is running on a socialist manifesto most of it seems fairly sensible, I grave doubts of Corporation Tax it could be really damaging for the economy. Leaning towards the Tories again now.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Free election edition of the Morning Star.
Goes through Nick Robinson's Conservative connections.

[Nearly Sane]

It may be that there is a non damaging reason for this but it doesn't look good.



https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/06/amber-rudd-prevents-independent-candidate-questioning-arms-sales-saudi-sponsors-terrorism/

[ProfessorDavey]

It may be that there is a non damaging reason for this but it doesn't look good.



https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/06/amber-rudd-prevents-independent-candidate-questioning-arms-sales-saudi-sponsors-terrorism/

This looks absolutely disgraceful.

[Nearly Sane]

I see Paul Nuttall has twitted that there is only one law in this country, British law. This, of course, amongst others ignores Nuttall's law that states anything Paul Nuttall says is not true.

[wigginhall]

Steve Hilton calling on May to resign, as she was Home Sec for 6 years, before the multiple terror attacks.   If there wasn't an election, this might gain some support, but I can't see it during a GE.    It is ironic that she says 'enough is enough', as if somebody else had been in charge of security.    I suppose traditionally, law and order are Tory home runs, but with police cuts and so on, maybe not.

[Nearly Sane]

Of course IS, if they were in any real sense behind this, would like  a Tory govt to keep selling arms to Saudi

[wigginhall]

Corbyn and Farron have been complaining about a report into foreign funding of jihadist groups, which probably will not be published now.  The inference is that the Saudis will be shown as financiers of Sunni groups.

[Nearly Sane]

May on May



http://newsthump.com/2017/06/05/uk-hasnt-done-enough-to-tackle-terrorism-says-woman-whose-job-it-was-to-tackle-terrorism/

[wigginhall]

I expect that she will be calling upon those guilty of such poor work and slackness to resign.   

[jakswan]

Corbyn now supports shoot-to-kill?

[jakswan]

Corbyn now supports shoot-to-kill?

Oh I see he hasn't.
https://order-order.com/2017/06/05/seumas-ordered-corbyn-spin-real-views-defence/

[Gonnagle]

Dearest British public in General,

"A Corbyn for me, a Corbyn for me,
If ye're no a Corbyn ye're no use to me.
The Liberal Democratics are braw, the SNP and a'
But the cocky wee Corbyn the pride o' them a'."

Gonnagle.

[Robbie]

Oh bless where's the applause smilie? Smashing Gonnagle. Agree entirely but don't think Corbyn is cocky really. He's certainly improved as a speaker recently, more confident( & learning to wriggle and divert a bit but they all have to learn that).

[Gordon]

Dearest British public in General,

"A Corbyn for me, a Corbyn for me,
If ye're no a Corbyn ye're no use to me.
The Liberal Democratics are braw, the SNP and a'
But the cocky wee Corbyn the pride o' them a'."

Gonnagle.

Amazing what some posts here do!

For obvious reasons when I was a child, aged in single figures, my grandmother used to sing this to me: back then I cringed but now I smile. I'd forgotten about this until reading the above: you've made my day Gonners.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/shortcuts/2017/jun/05/strong-and-stable-my-arse-how-a-campaign-poster-made-my-house-a-tourist-attraction

[Shaker]

Dearest British public in General,

"A Corbyn for me, a Corbyn for me,
If ye're no a Corbyn ye're no use to me.
The Liberal Democratics are braw, the SNP and a'
But the cocky wee Corbyn the pride o' them a'."

Gonnagle.

Hear hear!