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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1050 on: June 09, 2017, 08:23:02 AM »
TM says she isn't going to resign, but having screwed up so badly she should seriously consider her position.  It is possible we could be going to the polls again before the year is out.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1051 on: June 09, 2017, 08:32:11 AM »
Credit to Corbyn for apparently making Labour "sexy" again among young people.

The NI result IMHO is disappointing, the moderate parties have been annihilated by extreme parties.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1052 on: June 09, 2017, 08:44:15 AM »
Credit to Corbyn for apparently making Labour "sexy" again among young people.

The NI result IMHO is disappointing, the moderate parties have been annihilated by extreme parties.

I can't say Corbyn thrills me, but to give credit where credit is due, he has done so much better than ever could have been imagined when the campaign began.

It is not a good thing that the Tories will be propped up by the DUP! :o
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1053 on: June 09, 2017, 08:46:01 AM »
I can't say Corbyn thrills me, but to give credit where credit is due, he has don't so much better than ever could have been imagined when the campaign began.

It is not a good thing that the Tories will be propped up by the DUP! :o
. So at least at the start the govt could be May-DUP
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1054 on: June 09, 2017, 09:08:10 AM »
Shocker didn't make any cash on that but managed to hedge to break even.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1055 on: June 09, 2017, 09:15:20 AM »
Dear British Public,

What are we going to do now, what are we going to do now,  what are we going to do now :) :) :) ( old Spike Milligan sketch )

Here's a idea, a brand new party, the almost and quite possibly Totally Sane party.

Leader, the Wigs.

His 2 IC, the young Sane.

In charge of finance, Profdavey ( a new brief case is needed )

Home office, Shaker and Trentvoyager.

Foreign Affairs, Gabriella and oor Jim, the Cresent and the Cross are as one.

Oh and me! Well they will need someone to make the tea :P :P

Now we need a Minister for Brexit :o :o It may be controversial but I would vote for Jack Knave, in the midst of all of his chuntering he has made ( to me ) some commonsense but he would have to work very closely with Gabriella and Jim, they would make sure he doesn't go all little England on us.

And back to reality ??? ???

Will we now shut up about Corbyn and his leadership qualities, for me I had no doubt about the man but I question my own thinking, I kept comparing him to that shambles we have in number 10 just now ???

Will Theresa May go away ( very far away ) but then I ask, if not her then who?

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1056 on: June 09, 2017, 09:20:50 AM »
As a quick summation, the Tories won but lost, Labour lost but won, the SNP won but lost, the Lib Dems lost less badly than before, the DUP won and won (making the rest of us losers), Sinn Fein won and will stay in their more crowded shed for the next 5 years, Caroline Lucas remains the only Green anyone other than Patrick Harvie's friends know, and Lady Sylvia Harmon will be the new PM
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1057 on: June 09, 2017, 09:36:49 AM »
The idea of being misgoverned by a weak Tory party held up by Billy worshippers from Northern Ireland can appeal to no-one.
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« Reply #1058 on: June 09, 2017, 09:41:20 AM »
"4. That situation will be exacerbated by the fact that the dozen or so MPs the Tories have collected in Scotland won’t be able to vote on many key issues – eg the NHS – due to EVEL. Ruth Davidson’s glee may be short-lived because even with support from the Unionists in Northern Ireland (also subject to EVEL) the Tories will struggle to cobble any sort of workable majority together.

5. Jeremy Corbyn, however, has no chance of forming a government without SNP votes. So despite losing 20-odd seats, the SNP may well find themselves in a more powerful position than they were before the election was called.

6. Corbyn has also repeatedly stated that he won’t block a second independence referendum. Independence has now for some time been more popular than the SNP in polls, and if Corbyn does grant a Section 30 order in return for the SNP putting him into power – giving them control of the timing inside a four-year window – the game is very much on."

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1059 on: June 09, 2017, 09:48:21 AM »
The idea of being misgoverned by a weak Tory party held up by Billy worshippers from Northern Ireland can appeal to no-one.

I agree. :o

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1060 on: June 09, 2017, 09:50:17 AM »
In charge of finance, Profdavey ( a new brief case is needed )
What's wrong with my old one?!?

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Re: UK General Election 2017
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« Reply #1062 on: June 09, 2017, 09:54:28 AM »
There is no way i can see for Corbyn to power, Tory will block, and DUP given Corbyns record on IRA would block. In fact that is Tories ace with DUP if not us then him.

I think Corbyn has won this, suspected he never wanted to be PM but loud voice of opposition, he has total control of Labour party now.

Kudos to Corbyn proved me wrong.
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1063 on: June 09, 2017, 09:58:06 AM »
EVEL - English votes for English laws - put in place under Cameron, means that, despite winning a dozen seats in Scotland, the new Tories cannot vote for Westminster legislation which doesn't affect Scotland....so whichever Tory gets the poisoned chalice has a heck of a problem.....
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1064 on: June 09, 2017, 10:00:25 AM »
I didn't believe the exit poll, then my local Tory MP had her majority cut from 10, 000 to 1, 500, and I thought wow, this is real.

May carrying on seems grotesque.   I guess hard Brexit is dead and buried. 
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1065 on: June 09, 2017, 10:02:28 AM »
EVEL - English votes for English laws - put in place under Cameron, means that, despite winning a dozen seats in Scotland, the new Tories cannot vote for Westminster legislation which doesn't affect Scotland....so whichever Tory gets the poisoned chalice has a heck of a problem.....

Off the top of my head, though surely the Tories have a small but workable  majority in English seats?

Indeed looks like 299/300 vs 237/236
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1066 on: June 09, 2017, 10:18:42 AM »
Dear Sweet British public,

The TV pundits keep going on about May's authority, what authority? she has never had any authority, she has been on a shakey wicket since day one, a remainer shouting for a hard brexit.

Tory smoke and mirrors or may be ( as some have suggested ) media smoke and mirrors.

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You will have a visitor today, the Tower is an option ;)

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« Reply #1067 on: June 09, 2017, 10:22:44 AM »
Before the election there were a number of Tories who didn't see it TM's way, so that might make life even more volatile for her if that remains the case.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1068 on: June 09, 2017, 10:39:48 AM »
Well whatever anyone else might think of Diane Abbott, the constituency vote was a ringing endorsement.



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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1069 on: June 09, 2017, 10:48:37 AM »
Dear Sweet British public,

The TV pundits keep going on about May's authority, what authority? she has never had any authority, she has been on a shakey wicket since day one, a remainer shouting for a hard brexit.

Tory smoke and mirrors or may be ( as some have suggested ) media smoke and mirrors.

Dear Your Majesty,

You will have a visitor today, the Tower is an option ;)

Gonnagle.

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Wot - Lizzie's going to jump off the tower?
Much though I think the old dear's a laughing stock - a bit like Kermit the Frog - but isn't that a bit drastic, Gonners?
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« Reply #1070 on: June 09, 2017, 10:55:00 AM »
EVEL - English votes for English laws - put in place under Cameron, means that, despite winning a dozen seats in Scotland, the new Tories cannot vote for Westminster legislation which doesn't affect Scotland....so whichever Tory gets the poisoned chalice has a heck of a problem.....

No its ok just quote the SNP:-

Many issues which may appear to be ‘England-only’ can often have knock-on consequences in terms of Scotland’s public finances – for example decisions on NHS spending. The SNP would look to vote against any privatisation of the NHS to protect Scotland’s budget as well as retaining the NHS as a proper public service in England.
Any plans and subsequent legislation to build a third runway at Heathrow would also appear only to relate to England, but will have a huge knock-on effect in Scotland.
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1071 on: June 09, 2017, 11:04:19 AM »
Dear Jim,

You leave our Maj alone ;) at least she is one treasure that the bloody Tories can't sell off >:(

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« Reply #1072 on: June 09, 2017, 11:05:05 AM »
Who would have thought Scotland saved us from Corbyn, thank you Scotland! :)
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« Reply #1073 on: June 09, 2017, 11:19:17 AM »
Well whatever anyone else might think of Diane Abbott, the constituency vote was a ringing endorsement.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackney_North_and_Stoke_Newington_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

I would have voted for her if she were my local MP. Just don't fancy her much as Home Sec.

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