UK General Election 2017

[Nearly Sane]

Seen elsewhere 'We can't even laugh at Americans anymore, they only have one Orangeman fucking up their govt'

[Harrowby Hall]

Oh the irony. Theresa May will soon learn just how nasty the Nasty Party can be.

How long will it be, I wonder, before she starts looking for another job? I understand that there is a vacancy for the post of Crown Steward and Bailiff of the three Chiltern Hundreds of Stoke, Desborough and Burnham.

I don't think that the pay is very good, however, and people don't tend to stay there for long ...

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Anybody else feel cold because of the shadow of Boris?

[Nearly Sane]

And lo,  from the New Yorker


http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-book-of-jeremy-corbyn

[jakswan]

Isn't a petition a way of campaigning?

You don't need a deal, the Tories could run as a minority. Though as I suggested in my post to Vlad, I think Labour should offer opposition but not to through the Tories out in a no confidence vote in return for all party driving of Brexit and no DUP deal.

The deal need only be us or else Corbyn. All other parties would vote against a Queen's speech.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

How much coverage are the various parties getting from the BBC today I wonder.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Love, peace and charity to the fore as ever

I cannot keep writing witty and concise comments that nobody disagrees with

[Nearly Sane]

The deal need only be us or else Corbyn. All other parties would vote against a Queen's speech.

And lose. There isn't an or else Corbyn unless the DYP were to vote for him, given Sinn Fein's abstentionism. The issue with the DUP as coveted earlier is not that the effect on  policy particularly but the effect on NI where there is no possibility of brokering a piece while being propped up. The Tories didn't need the DUP at all but they panicked. Not a good sign.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Breaking wind.

Theresa May now much less shit after resignation of little known pair.
Expiation to country now not only complete but GBP now owe May full allegiance.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

All together now "We are Billy' s boys"......

[Humph Warden Bennett]

And what is with that boy on TV from the Tory Party "Rapid Response Unit" doing with eyebrows that look like they have been shaved at the mall? I thought the DUP considered such things to be "poofy"?

[Humph Warden Bennett]

FTR what really has annoyed me is that rich kid Zak Goldsmith was returned by 45 votes, beating the incumbent Liberal MP, who had an interest in the environment & human rights. She will be missed, he is not even liked by the Conservatives, since he gives the impression that he is only giving the plebs the benefit of his patrician wisdom so as to give himself something to do.

[SusanDoris]

Apparently 300,000 people have already signed a petition against a Tory/DUP coalition.

Well, I hope that people in positions of responsibility who need to think clearly, as impartially  as they can, and withthe the long term prospects in mind will not take any more notice of this than it merits. 
Rushing to sign a petition is a knee-jerk reaction and far too easy to do.

ETA I see from subsequent posts that I might well think it is a fair point, but I still would not sign a petition.

[Nearly Sane]

Well, I hope that people in positions of responsibility who need to think clearly, as impartially  as they can, and withthe the long term prospects in mind will not take any more notice of this than it merits. 
Rushing to sign a petition is a knee-jerk reaction and far too easy to do.

As opposed to rushing to do a deal with the DUP?

[SusanDoris]

And lo,  from the New Yorker


http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-book-of-jeremy-corbyn

Oh, thank you very much for posting that linke. I love it! It shall be sent on to others!

[Anchorman]

Well, I hope that people in positions of responsibility who need to think clearly, as impartially  as they can, and withthe the long term prospects in mind will not take any more notice of this than it merits. 
Rushing to sign a petition is a knee-jerk reaction and far too easy to do.

Not if you knew anything about the DUP, it isn't.

[SusanDoris]

Breaking wind.

Theresa May now much less shit after resignation of little known pair.
Expiation to country now not only complete but GBP now owe May full allegiance.

Is that the couple on her advisory team that I heard mention of on the news (or something) just now?

ETA I have modified my  previous post.

[Nearly Sane]

Is that the couple on her advisory team that I heard mention of on the news (or something) just now?

ETA I have modified my  previous post.

Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill, today's sacrificial victims, others will no doubt follow. Note the issues with communication office was apparent with the resignations in the months before the election. No matter what happens from here May won't lead the Tories in another election.

As to the petition, my point in reply to you wasn't about whether it should be signed but your idea that there were calm impartial heads making decisions. There are for obvious reasons no impartial Ines, and making a deal, unspecified in any detail, with the DUP is indicative of panic.

[jakswan]

And lose. There isn't an or else Corbyn unless the DYP were to vote for him, given Sinn Fein's abstentionism. The issue with the DUP as coveted earlier is not that the effect on  policy particularly but the effect on NI where there is no possibility of brokering a piece while being propped up. The Tories didn't need the DUP at all but they panicked. Not a good sign.

Can you quite a member of any party that is now saying there is no possibility of peace?

A broken peace in Ireland may be a price you are willing to pay for political capital but I'd prefer to keep the peace as much as possible.

I would much prefer perhaps SNP or Labour or LibDems to set out their terms for a Tory Govt but that ain't going to happen.

[floo]

Well, I hope that people in positions of responsibility who need to think clearly, as impartially  as they can, and withthe the long term prospects in mind will not take any more notice of this than it merits. 
Rushing to sign a petition is a knee-jerk reaction and far too easy to do.

ETA I see from subsequent posts that I might well think it is a fair point, but I still would not sign a petition.

No one is forcing you to do so!

[Nearly Sane]

Can you quite a member of any party that is now saying there is no possibility of peace?

A broken peace in Ireland may be a price you are willing to pay for political capital but I'd prefer to keep the peace as much as possible.

I would much prefer perhaps SNP or Labour or LibDems to set out their terms for a Tory Govt but that ain't going to happen.

Can you point out where you think I have said or implied a broken peace is a price worth paying? It's precisely my worry the govt will not be able to brokeR a peace that I don't think thisisa good idea.

I don't think there is any chance of a full deal with the other parties which is why I suggested the Labour Party says that it won't vote No confidence if there is full cross party involvement in Brexit and no DUP deal.

[Nearly Sane]

As can aside I have to wonder if there is much gnashing of teeth in the Davidson household at choosing not to stand. Say she had stood against Angus Robertson in a 'battle of the leaders', won and been on the way to WM with her band of 12 followers, a success, the saviour of the Mayden, no backstabbing baggage, surely awaiting the anointing?

[jakswan]

Can you point out where you think I have said or implied a broken peace is a price worth paying? It's precisely my worry the govt will not be able to brokeR a peace that I don't think thisisa good idea.

You have toned that down - no possibility of brokering a piece - you are now worried

I don't think there is any chance of a full deal with the other parties which is why I suggested the Labour Party says that it won't vote No confidence if there is full cross party involvement in Brexit and no DUP deal.

Lets see if the Labour does that then.

[Nearly Sane]

You have toned that down - no possibility of brokering a piece - you are now worried

Lets see if the Labour does that then.

And again I will ask you where do I suggest that a broken peace is a price worth paying?

Oh, I doubt Labour will but it seems a good idea to me currently.

[Nearly Sane]

and the Mash take



http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/dup-deal-to-focus-on-brexit-pensions-and-dinosaurs-being-a-hoax-20170610129309