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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1450 on: June 15, 2017, 06:28:46 PM »
Clearly getting a deal with the DUP is proving much, much harder than anticipated, given that it is now a week since the election and still no announcement.

It is, of course, possible (indeed probably) that the DUP will align with the government's view on brexit (although what that is seems to be changing almost by the hour, with Hammond seemingly now calling the shots). However that would no more prove that the DUP had a manifesto pledge to leaving the single market prior to the election than the LibDems signing up to massive increase in tuition fees after the 2010 election proved that their manifesto for the 2010 election committed them to raising tuition fees.

I was not really overly concerned DUP policy with regard to proving you wrong (again), more concerned with DUP policy as it would indicate their likely behaviour.
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« Reply #1451 on: June 15, 2017, 07:02:47 PM »
Dear Forum,

On the question of Mr Farron ( I kind of agree with the good Prof, bit of a light weight ) I applaud and denounce  his stance on his faith, it ain't easy being a Christian, but if he is in conflict about his faith then the best thing is to do is go away, study Scripture and ask the Father, what is my best course.

If he is troubled by the homosexual question then he should read Scripture and and find the answer ( I did ) half the world is starving whilst the other half are fighting obesity, we are polluting Gods seas at a alarming rate ( okay he gave us the seas ) we are travelling down a road which will lead to this thing called Armageddon, but it won't be boiling seas it will be dead seas.

So I would say to Mr Farron, The Lord gave us this World to manage and pass on and what have we done, Mr Farron, stop focusing on the minuscule and focus on the bigger picture.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1452 on: June 15, 2017, 07:05:36 PM »
Did read something about LibDems meeting PM..... maybe the LibDem leaders wanted him to try to do a deal but he declined then they pushed him out?
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1453 on: June 15, 2017, 07:18:02 PM »
Dear Forum,

On the question of Mr Farron ( I kind of agree with the good Prof, bit of a light weight ) I applaud and denounce  his stance on his faith, it ain't easy being a Christian, but if he is in conflict about his faith then the best thing is to do is go away, study Scripture and ask the Father, what is my best course.

If he is troubled by the homosexual question then he should read Scripture and and find the answer ( I did ) half the world is starving whilst the other half are fighting obesity, we are polluting Gods seas at a alarming rate ( okay he gave us the seas ) we are travelling down a road which will lead to this thing called Armageddon, but it won't be boiling seas it will be dead seas.

So I would say to Mr Farron, The Lord gave us this World to manage and pass on and what have we done, Mr Farron, stop focusing on the minuscule and focus on the bigger picture.

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Yes but it's not enough to support and defend the rights of gay people or whatever these days. You have to show that you are stiff and moist for it. Do you remember I had demonstrated a little excursion one could have with certain folks over Gay marriage.
Should it happen- Yes alright how do feel about it. Pretty cool-how cool etc, etc, etc,

Lets face it some people are not happy until they get their spouses to have plastic surgery to look like the captain Mainwaring types they are themselves complete with bald head and little moustache.
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« Reply #1454 on: June 16, 2017, 08:16:16 AM »
Lets face it some people are not happy until they get their spouses to have plastic surgery to look like the captain Mainwaring types they are themselves complete with bald head and little moustache.
What on earth are you on about?!?

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« Reply #1455 on: June 16, 2017, 08:46:22 AM »
Yes but it's not enough to support and defend the rights of gay people or whatever these days. You have to show that you are stiff and moist for it. Do you remember I had demonstrated a little excursion one could have with certain folks over Gay marriage.
Should it happen- Yes alright how do feel about it. Pretty cool-how cool etc, etc, etc,

Lets face it some people are not happy until they get their spouses to have plastic surgery to look like the captain Mainwaring types they are themselves complete with bald head and little moustache.

This is one of your crazier posts and that is saying something! ::)

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1456 on: June 20, 2017, 11:19:40 AM »

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« Reply #1457 on: June 21, 2017, 11:41:57 AM »

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« Reply #1458 on: June 21, 2017, 12:09:05 PM »
A very bland quick Queen's Speech over in 9 minutes, as Dennis Skinner noted, first race at Ascot is 2.30.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/21/dennis-skinner-reminds-mps-get-skates-queen-going-ascot/
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1459 on: June 21, 2017, 01:24:23 PM »
One of the things that struck me was the reference to extremism 'in society and on the internet', I have to wonder about how we make progress if we don't understand that the internet is part of society. We seem to treat it as something removed.


Also you have to love the idea that has appeared that Liz was showing support for the EU by her choice of hat. 

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« Reply #1460 on: June 21, 2017, 01:40:25 PM »
LONG LIVE THE QUEEN She continues to do her duty, which is very onerous at times, even though she is very elderly and frail.

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« Reply #1461 on: June 21, 2017, 02:21:34 PM »
Queen's speech - good for electric vehicles and foxes.   Also pensioners.    And of course, Brexit will be deep and meaningful. 
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« Reply #1462 on: June 21, 2017, 06:12:14 PM »
LONG LIVE THE QUEEN She continues to do her duty, which is very onerous at times, even though she is very elderly and frail.
Agreed and she speaks clearly and well. Okay, good sound technicians etc, but her voice did not in any way sound weak or feeble.

In PM there was an interview with Boris Johnson, he was rambling, incoherent, didn't seem to have a clue about what he was saying,. and the sooner Theresa May gets rid of him, the better. Whatever anyone thinks of Theresa May, she spoke well in the House this afternoon.
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« Reply #1463 on: June 21, 2017, 08:23:01 PM »
Agreed and she speaks clearly and well. Okay, good sound technicians etc, but her voice did not in any way sound weak or feeble.

In PM there was an interview with Boris Johnson, he was rambling, incoherent, didn't seem to have a clue about what he was saying,. and the sooner Theresa May gets rid of him, the better. Whatever anyone thinks of Theresa May, she spoke well in the House this afternoon.

This has a link to the interview

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-embarrassing-air-meltdown-10662968



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« Reply #1464 on: June 22, 2017, 08:42:58 AM »
Boris has done the Government no favours at all. ::)

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« Reply #1465 on: June 22, 2017, 11:04:11 AM »
I see lots of people deeply offended that Corbyn didn't bow his head yesterday, despite it being current convention that MPs don't. Lots of suggestions on the more mouthfoaming sites that he should have been dragged out and hung drawn and quartered for treason.

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« Reply #1466 on: June 22, 2017, 11:28:56 AM »
I see lots of people deeply offended that Corbyn didn't bow his head yesterday, despite it being current convention that MPs don't. Lots of suggestions on the more mouthfoaming sites that he should have been dragged out and hung drawn and quartered for treason.

If there is another election and Corbyn becomes PM, maybe he will end up in the Tower and then be beheaded for treason if he doesn't bow when in the presence of HM. ;D

Apparently the death sentence for treason was only abolished in 1998. It is now life imprisonment.
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« Reply #1467 on: June 22, 2017, 04:55:54 PM »
They're nothing but a pack of cards floo!

I thought bowing of head went out with the ark. Trust the media to make a point of Corbyn not doing it.
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« Reply #1468 on: June 22, 2017, 05:04:53 PM »
They're nothing but a pack of cards floo!

I thought bowing of head went out with the ark. Trust the media to make a point of Corbyn not doing it.

What does that mean?

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« Reply #1469 on: June 22, 2017, 06:07:48 PM »
Nearly Sane told you this morning:

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I see lots of people deeply offended that Corbyn didn't bow his head yesterday, despite it being current convention that MPs don't.
It's not a 'thing' for MPs - all MPs; any MPs - to bow. Corbyn, being an MP, went along with this and didn't bow; entirely predictably, the right-wing frothies exploded in spittle-flecked, swivel-eyed fulmination.

Remember his incorrect-degree-of-angle bow twaddle at the Cenotaph a year or two ago? Same thing.
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« Reply #1470 on: June 22, 2017, 06:17:26 PM »
I'd be deeply offended if Corbyn had bowed his head.

That this type of supercilious deference is expected when faced with a member of this bunch is both antiquated and, dare I say it, deeply offensive. Time to get rid!
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« Reply #1471 on: June 22, 2017, 06:18:11 PM »
Yes!
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« Reply #1472 on: June 22, 2017, 06:33:09 PM »
NO!

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1473 on: June 22, 2017, 06:34:02 PM »
Yes!

Quite apart from the blatant insult to representative democracy that an hereditary monarchy represents, who wants an unelected head of state who wants to be a female sanitary product?
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1474 on: June 22, 2017, 07:05:10 PM »
Yes!

Quite apart from the blatant insult to representative democracy that an hereditary monarchy represents, who wants an unelected head of state who wants to be a female sanitary product?
Don't you think he'll put his own tamp on the role of manarchy?